CLG Klavier Posted May 16, 2015 Report Share Posted May 16, 2015 When this card is activated: Add 1 "Zefra" monster from your Deck to your hand. When you Ritual Summon using a "Zefra" monster, or Special Summon using a "Zefra" monster as Material, you can activate these effects depending on the monster Summoned, once per turn per effect. ● Ritual: Shuffle 1 monster on the field into the Deck. ● Fusion: Special Summon 1 monster from your hand. ● Synchro: Choose 1 monster from your Deck and place it on top of your Deck. ● Xyz: Draw 1 card, then discard 1 card. You can only activate 1 "Oracle of Zefra" per turn. I seriously can't figure this deck out. There are so many paths it can branch out into, and I really don't know which is the best. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spinny Posted May 16, 2015 Report Share Posted May 16, 2015 I seriously can't figure this deck out. There are so many paths it can branch out into, and I really don't know which is the best. Answer: They are all terrible. Nekroz path > Just play nekroz Shaddoll path > Just play shadds YZ path > Just tech it in YZ's Tellar Path > tech it in Tellars Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CLG Klavier Posted May 16, 2015 Author Report Share Posted May 16, 2015 Answer: They are all terrible. Nekroz path > Just play nekroz Shaddoll path > Just play shadds YZ path > Just tech it in YZ's Tellar Path > tech it in Tellars The archetype has a lot of synergy between each other, but you still need to fill out the deck somehow. Also remind me to bring this up to you next time you try any kind of deck variant. No exploration means no success. From your post I deduce and assume you thoroughly tested all the possible variants compared to the original lists? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spinny Posted May 16, 2015 Report Share Posted May 16, 2015 Also remind me to bring this up to you next time you try any kind of deck variant. No exploration means no success. From your post I deduce and assume you thoroughly tested all the possible variants compared to the original lists? Ive seen alot of people try to make this archetype work and it doesnt really. The actual paths themselves are weaker than the original paths, which is what makes the deck a bit weird. if you want to know the best path, then it's Zefratellars. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DuelSpectre Posted May 16, 2015 Report Share Posted May 16, 2015 You missed Ritual Beasts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spinny Posted May 16, 2015 Report Share Posted May 16, 2015 You missed Ritual Beasts. I dont see them enough to comment on what to do with them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CLG Klavier Posted May 16, 2015 Author Report Share Posted May 16, 2015 Ive seen alot of people try to make this archetype work and it doesnt really. The actual paths themselves are weaker than the original paths, which is what makes the deck a bit weird. if you want to know the best path, then it's Zefratellars. I've seen a lot of people try Nekroz when they were out and they failed miserably as well. Shitty builds exists. You exchange a part of the deck for Zefras. You just gotta figure out which. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spinny Posted May 16, 2015 Report Share Posted May 16, 2015 You exchange a part of the deck for Zefras. You just gotta figure out which. ? What do you even mean? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CLG Klavier Posted May 16, 2015 Author Report Share Posted May 16, 2015 ? What do you even mean? >take Tellars/Shaddolls/Yang Zing/whatever >take out some parts of them >add in Zefras >??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spinny Posted May 16, 2015 Report Share Posted May 16, 2015 >take Tellars/Shaddolls/Yang Zing/whatever >take out some parts of them >add in Zefras >??? You never changed the subject so i thought you were still on about nekroz. It made it sound like you were saying that you have to play Zefras in Nekroz for Nekroz to be good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DuelSpectre Posted May 16, 2015 Report Share Posted May 16, 2015 In my opinion, Zefra cards goes as follows (Best to worst). -------- 1. Ritual Beast 2. Yang Zing 3. Tellars 4. Nekroz 5. Shaddoll Ritual Beast Zefra are actually somewhat useable, and Yang Zing Zefra has its purpose in the deck. Everybody else, meh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toffee. Posted May 16, 2015 Report Share Posted May 16, 2015 Pretty sure that Zefras being scatterbrained as fuck, was the point of the Archetype. Story wise, it makes sense. Archetype wise.... Each of the included Archetypes are better off by themselves. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spinny Posted May 16, 2015 Report Share Posted May 16, 2015 In my opinion, Zefra cards goes as follows (Best to worst). -------- 1. Ritual Beast 2. Yang Zing 3. Tellars 4. Nekroz 5. Shaddoll Ritual Beast Zefra are actually somewhat useable, and Yang Zing Zefra has its purpose in the deck. Everybody else, meh. I have to test this out, havent seen anyone build a RB Zefra deck properly yet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DuelSpectre Posted May 16, 2015 Report Share Posted May 16, 2015 Pretty sure that Zefras being scatterbrained as f***, was the point of the Archetype. Story wise, it makes sense. Archetype wise.... Each of the included Archetypes are better off by themselves. They could've done a better job with their effects to be honest. It's like they made the cards just to say they made support. Person 1: I want Nekroz/Tellars/Yang Zing/Ritual Beast/Shaddoll to be more powerful! Konami: Okay, we are making support. Person 1: Yayy! Person 1 (Looks at cards): F*** Konami. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sleepy Posted May 16, 2015 Report Share Posted May 16, 2015 Zefra is hard to figure out. I'm not trying to make the deck myself but have been trying to use them somehow on a Nekroz build without Djinn lock or the most expensive Rituals, and have been failing miserably. Non-Ritual Nekroz monsters should be able to search out non-Ritual Nekroz monsters too... I can't work with them too well otherwise. So far I've achieved cute plays like banishing a Ritual Spell + Exa or Sorcerer, and Exa will get me another non-Ritual banished Nekroz (including a copy of itself), and Sorcerer can drop a Zefraxa from the Deck to the Graveyard, and it'll revive itself when something mine gets destroyed and gets setup again to do it later when I go Rank 5, but the Pendulum Cards just won't come out as Pendulum Scales, ever. Zefrasaber can be aquired through bad plays like Salvage, but that's trying too hard. I also haven't been able to Ritual Summon with it anything much bigger than Unicore because it doesn't count itself towards the Tributes.... Also, it is pointless without setup Scales for it to come back. I get that it is meant for Nekroz of Sophia but that also sounds pretty hard considering you need to Tribute like 4 monsters (including Zefrasaber's activation cost) to put her in play, and then it also kills your own Scales. [/bad deck I know] Zefras by themselves I need to figure out too. The Shadoll Zefras' effects look very non-optimal. Returning one to the hand sounds alright for if you ever wanna change up a Scale, but having 2 of similar effects is a bit redundant. Keeping some extra Scales in hand just sounds more important than a single extra Special Summon. Then we have other effects all over the place. At least they have some synergy in the sense that they do something when Pendulum Summoned, apart from their individual archetype niches like Yang-Zing having to be destroyed or Shadolls needing to go via a card effect, etc. but I think they can be made out to work. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
玄魔の王 Posted May 16, 2015 Report Share Posted May 16, 2015 The Zefras should have had Pendulum Effects to support their individual summon methods. That is all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bringerofcake Posted May 16, 2015 Report Share Posted May 16, 2015 The Zefras should have had Pendulum Effects. FTFY I still think that Dreamland does a better job of supporting summoneverytypeofthing.dek than this. Love it in YZ though. Gives you Jiaotu fodder and doesn't afraid of anything. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toffee. Posted May 16, 2015 Report Share Posted May 16, 2015 They could've done a better job with their effects to be honest. It's like they made the cards just to say they made support.Person 1: I want Nekroz/Tellars/Yang Zing/Ritual Beast/Shaddoll to be more powerful!Konami: Okay, we are making support.Person 1: Yayy!Person 1 (Looks at cards): F*** Konami.No, see, they only made them because the playerbase is under the impression that every fucking Archetype needs Pendulum monsters to be "good". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryusei the Morning Star Posted May 16, 2015 Report Share Posted May 16, 2015 Zefra stellar can be a +1 grind game that's really fun to play. It will see play if Atlair gets limited as people are predicting Zefra Yangzing is the best since you can search path Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darj Posted May 16, 2015 Report Share Posted May 16, 2015 Isn't the Zefra variant with a Zefratellarknight and a ZefraYangZing core (so to speak) the best one so far? But still, as far as I know even said variant isn't as good as the current top decks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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