Legend Zero Posted May 29, 2015 Report Share Posted May 29, 2015 How far should we as a society go to protect the feelings of others? Is it something that can be standardized or is it doomed to always be a case-by-case basis? Do you do anything to protect feelings of others? Maybe different for family/friends and strangers? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryusei the Morning Star Posted May 29, 2015 Report Share Posted May 29, 2015 f*** feelings. You pus*y mother di**s need to grow a f***ing thicker damn skin Srsly people are way too sensitive today. Who gives a flying fuck what someone else thinks of you Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LordCowCowCowCowCowCowCowCow Posted May 29, 2015 Report Share Posted May 29, 2015 Feelings are very real and can cause serious damage to people if pressed too far. It's all well and good if YOU don't care but don't expect everyone to be the same. It's important to at least be somewhat sensitive to feelings. There's really no point to not, in my opinion. It's simple to do small things to try and express yourself in a decent way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Catman25 Posted May 29, 2015 Report Share Posted May 29, 2015 Who gives a flying fuck what someone else thinks of you i do, i give a flying fuck Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Makο Posted May 29, 2015 Report Share Posted May 29, 2015 Feelings are a bit too complicated to be described or dealt with in a few blanket statements. Efforts should be made to respect the feelings of others, but said feelings should not censor or distort the thoughts or opinions of others. Usually? It really should boil down to just trying not to be an ass. And in situations in which someones feelings are hurt, that person should see if they can remove themselves from the situation, or ask themselves if they REALLY need to be there, ruining the fun for everyone else. It's a two-way street. I honestly do think the worlds getting a bit sensitive, though. At least, white America is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryusei the Morning Star Posted May 29, 2015 Report Share Posted May 29, 2015 i do, i give a flying f*** It's not healthy. People in general are inflicted with Schadenfreude and will do anything to elevate their own pathetic selves Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mitchermitcher Posted May 29, 2015 Report Share Posted May 29, 2015 It'd be pretty nice if society can accommodate for every single person's feelings but unfortunately sometimes you just have to ignore it for something else. It kind of makes me uncomfortable anyway if feelings are pandered to all the time. But yeah, case-by-case basis really is the only way to deal with this stuff. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Makο Posted May 29, 2015 Report Share Posted May 29, 2015 It's not healthy. People in general are inflicted with Schadenfreude and will do anything to elevate their own pathetic selves The more empathetic you are, the more you care about how others think of you, I think. It's not so easy for some to dismiss the feelings of others. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fusion X. Denver Posted May 29, 2015 Report Share Posted May 29, 2015 http://youtu.be/JW1VQxmipKE Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryusei the Morning Star Posted May 29, 2015 Report Share Posted May 29, 2015 The more empathetic you are, the more you care about how others think of you, I think. It's not so easy for some to dismiss the feelings of others. I don't dismiss others. If you call me a fat ugly troll and egg my house I'm not gonna go cry in a corner. I don't care what others think of me. I do care about other's plights even if I don't understand why they are letting some troll get to them Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Icy Posted May 29, 2015 Report Share Posted May 29, 2015 I love to be politically correct to save a persons feelings. Anything further however is coddling and I wont do that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Squirrel Girl Posted May 29, 2015 Report Share Posted May 29, 2015 http://youtu.be/JW1VQxmipKE BEST VIDEO EVER!!! NEEDED TO BE SAID Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maeriberii Haan Posted May 29, 2015 Report Share Posted May 29, 2015 Feeling...is something you manipulate from others to gain favors from them. Outside of unwritten society norms and such, there's not really anything stopping people from acting in any manner they wanted to others. It's far from something that can be standardized, really. Humans have a lot of different temperaments as a whole, so it's kinda farfetched to expect them all to feel the same regarding the same thing. Kind of a stretch too to expect them all to man up/ignore/take the brunt of certain things that would hurt their feeling. Eh really, I'm just rambling now. I'm honestly just a relatively insensitive and apathetic person when it comes to others' feeling, except some. But usually, I refrain from hurting their feelings directly even if I wanted to. Probably due to that restraint on myself is inherently a reinforcement, probably because it'll help me gain their favor and makes them easier to play around with slowly but surely, or maybe...dunno, basic human decency? (is this even a thing?) Though I often accidentally hurt other's feeling but I rarely cared much about these cases unless it's presented right to my face blatantly. Don't mind me I'm just rambling. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aerion Brightflame Posted May 29, 2015 Report Share Posted May 29, 2015 It depends on the person and the situation. There are times when other peoples feelings should be put aside for yours, but likewise you also have to put your aside for theres. Life... Doesn't function well when you only do one of these things, when you only care about one side of the situation. Because it means either they are using you, or you are using them. Whilst I agree with the sentiments that you shouldn't let others opinions of you direct your life, you should still try and make others think well of you. Else you are left alone, and probably worse off for it. Because life without friends, and thus a form of love is pretty damn depressing. Otherwise I'd agree with a lot of Nai's sentiments about being apathetic. Except with the exceptions of the above. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dad Posted May 29, 2015 Report Share Posted May 29, 2015 maybe...dunno, basic human decency? (is this even a thing?) Don't do that. Now you're putting further personal perspective into a topic that is already such. You're making this a lot more complicated than it already is. Human decency isn't a thing. It's a perspective and an expectation set by society that some agree and some don't agree with. That's an entire other topic and I don't think it should be mixed with the whole feelings thing. It's weird. As far as feelings go, having empathy and being apathetic go hand in hand. Just because I know and comprehend that you are hurt doesn't mean I have to give a shit. That's not to say I don't. This is purely an example. With that in mind, it's difficult to say whether or not the whole world can just turn a blind eye to those that hurt them (physically, emotionally, spiritually). Feelings will stem from pain and anguish most often, but people won't always turn right to more violent feelings or things like that because of it. Feelings are very personal, and full of perspectives and subjective situations. It's a matter (as some have said) of the individual. You could punch one guy in the face, and it turns out he's a Buddhist, and only goes on to speak well of you, donate to a charity, and feed the hungry. Or you could shake the hand of a man in dire stress, only to hear later that day he murdered everyone in his work place. So no, you can't just shrug it all off or take it as you please. You have to try and analyze everything in the situation of the person. Especially before you go off spouting some, "don't let it get to you" bullshit. No, we're not all iron skinned superheroes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryusei the Morning Star Posted May 29, 2015 Report Share Posted May 29, 2015 It depends on the person and the situation. There are times when other peoples feelings should be put aside for yours, but likewise you also have to put your aside for theres. Life... Doesn't function well when you only do one of these things, when you only care about one side of the situation. Because it means either they are using you, or you are using them. Whilst I agree with the sentiments that you shouldn't let others opinions of you direct your life, you should still try and make others think well of you. Else you are left alone, and probably worse off for it. Because life without friends, and thus a form of love is pretty damn depressing. Otherwise I'd agree with a lot of Nai's sentiments about being apathetic. Except with the exceptions of the above. This is largely false. The only person that truly understands you....is you. You need no one else. People, "friends", family, they all have goals and schemes, why become a pawn? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toffee. Posted May 29, 2015 Report Share Posted May 29, 2015 Feelins'? Look mate, you know who has a lot of feelings? Blokes that bludgeon their wife to death with a golf trophy. Professionals have standards.(Sorry, I had to) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Agro Posted May 29, 2015 Report Share Posted May 29, 2015 Part of societal structure is offering a disincentive to being a dick. If you're a constant prick to everyone and don't feel you should need to not be, eventually people can just avoid you and let you die alone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spinny Posted May 29, 2015 Report Share Posted May 29, 2015 This is largely false. The only person that truly understands you....is you. You need no one else. People, "friends", family, they all have goals and schemes, why become a pawn? I find this statement to be naive, personally, you need friends to help yourself feel better, closing yourself up and saying you don't need anyone is leading yourself into a lie. We were created with the need for others, we were born through other people and I don't think that saying what you're saying is making the best of what you have, if you actually mean what you are saying in the way that I think you do. Saying that they are using you is true, but you are also using them, it is how a proper bond works and is needed to make life and stress easier on yourself. Anyways, just my opinion. I am extremely sensitive, watch out >.< Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aerion Brightflame Posted May 30, 2015 Report Share Posted May 30, 2015 This is largely false. The only person that truly understands you....is you. You need no one else. People, "friends", family, they all have goals and schemes, why become a pawn? I disagree with this; Nobody truly knows ourself, because we look through a tinted lens. We can't know who we truly are, because life does not let us, we are biased to see life as circumstance has shaped us to view it. And as for the part about being used, I think it's complete bollocks. Because even if we are 'used' in a sense by the people we associate with, it's those people who help define us. Because in my eyes, our lives are defined by the interactions we have with the people we love, and the people who love us in return. And even if people have selfish motivations at times, love still can shine through and shape who we are more than anything. Afterall, isolation is a source of madness, and to not be isolated, we must have people who love us and who we love in return. It's nothing to do with pawn or player, it is to do with expierence life to it's fullest, to feel the soul sing, and spark and light up like fireflies. Because, despite it being cliche, I truly believe that life is shaped by love, and admittedly it's opposite hatred. By who we choose to love, and who love us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryusei the Morning Star Posted May 30, 2015 Report Share Posted May 30, 2015 I disagree with this; Nobody truly knows ourself, because we look through a tinted lens. We can't know who we truly are, because life does not let us, we are biased to see life as circumstance has shaped us to view it. And as for the part about being used, I think it's complete bollocks. Because even if we are 'used' in a sense by the people we associate with, it's those people who help define us. Because in my eyes, our lives are defined by the interactions we have with the people we love, and the people who love us in return. And even if people have selfish motivations at times, love still can shine through and shape who we are more than anything. Afterall, isolation is a source of madness, and to not be isolated, we must have people who love us and who we love in return. It's nothing to do with pawn or player, it is to do with expierence life to it's fullest, to feel the soul sing, and spark and light up like fireflies. Because, despite it being cliche, I truly believe that life is shaped by love, and admittedly it's opposite hatred. By who we choose to love, and who love us. Don't get all mushy on me Tom. It doesn't suit you. I disagree. We EVALUATE ourselves through a tinted lens. Me? I'm a orphan, I justify me being a cunt due to never having anyone who have two hoots about me more than how much money they could scrounge of me. Strip away the self pity and justification and you realize who your truely are. You claimed Isolation is a source of madness? Isolation shows us as we are untainted. No more is someone else pulling the strings. Life is nasty, brutish, and short. Humans are inherently driven to protect their own existence. You may mention how a mother takes a knife for her son? Genes. She's more likely to protect said son than a neice. People are ALWAYS only looking out for themselves. I admit it for my case, most people have not found piece with the fact we're really just kinda shitty to the core. What is love? Stratification basically. You basically put a persons worth and value on a scale. Those of most value, you love the most, those of less, you love less. Love does not motivate us. Survival does. And here I was thinking I finally found someone who thought like me, SMH. Life is eternally cold mate. Embrace the coldness and you tend to prosper. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aerion Brightflame Posted May 30, 2015 Report Share Posted May 30, 2015 If you ever thought I was anything but a tortured romantic you really had a poor read of me. I give into bitterness and resignation about life out of circumstance wearing me down, but it is not who I am, or rather it is not who I will let myself become. No matter what happens to me, I will not let it consume me, because as a band I love once said 'The best of us can find happiness in misery' I mean... I will be cold to people that mean little to me, and I will be willing to ignore them entirely to focus on those more important to myself. So I understand the appeal of being cold and unfeeling, and understand why some people choose that path in life, I really do. But it is not me, I will ever believe that there is great joy to be hand only in the company of others, that it is the people around you that give life the spark that makes it worth living. And I also believe that whilst people can be fundamentally bad and self-centred, you can also find people who are good and Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Warden Posted May 30, 2015 Report Share Posted May 30, 2015 I've gone through my adult life with a continuous cloud of pessimism, as I find it's the safer route. By always expecting the worse to come, when it does, you're right. If something good happens, you get to be pleasantly surprised by it. You're wrong, but it's just so good you don't care. Life is in no ways inherently black and white. It's just black, because life sucks. It sucks so magnificently hard. You live, you age, you die. That's the destiny of all things, to die. With that in mind, people are bastards. Pure, absolute bastards. We're selfish, we're cruel, we're complete assholes to people with a skin tone different than our own. We use books written by people eons ago that supposedly claims to have the opinions of an apparent god to be complete dickholes to other people. We feed by destroying each other, as destroying a person's good feelings we feed and survive. We just love to destroy each other, and, we don't care that we do. Humans are the least humane things in the world. But, despite our flaws, we can still be inherently good people, so long as we learn it's important to be considerate. While goodness is inherent to humans, consideration must be taught. That's important, very important. You have to learn to be kind, as the weight of the world can easily crush your perceptions of goodness and generosity. Even if it's small things like just opening a door for someone, that matters. It matters a lot, because you made the effort. You made the effort to think about someone else. If you're so selfish and jaded that you forget what it means to be considerate, then you're nothing more than epitomizing the people you hate. Life sucks, but you gotta make the effort to actually be alive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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