Weak Medium-High Level Normal Monsters Normal Summoning With Less Tributes

[GarlandChaos]

Okay, so, as basically everyone knows, Yu-Gi-Oh! is a pretty damn broken game. Strong Level 4 Normal Monsters that require no tributes, like Axe Raider for example, easily outclass weak Level 5+ Normal Monsters that do require tributes, such as Mabarrel.

 

As a sort of remedy to something like this, what if a rule was established that allowed you to Normal Summon certain tribute-requiring Normal monsters that don't cross a certain stat threshold? Ally Mind and any other medium-high level Normal tuners, as well as the Hieratic Seals, will be excluded.

 

The stat threshold I had in mind would be more than 1900 in ATK and more than 2150 in DEF for levels 5 and 6, which would allow them to be normal summoned without tributes, as well as more than 2350 in ATK and more than 2600 in DEF for levels 7 and 8 for those level of Normal Monsters to be summoned with 1 tribute.

 

For clarification, if a monster passes the ATK threshold but not the DEF threshold, it has to be Normal Summoned with the appropriate number of tributes, and vice versa. Furthermore, if a level 5/6 monster's ATK is at the threshold (but it has not crossed it) and its DEF is higher than its ATK, that monster has to be Normal Summoned with the appropriate number of tributes.

 

Does this sound like a reasonable idea, or am I spouting madness?

 

Discuss.

[Catman25]

I feel like it'd be pretty hard to introduce a game mechanic that excludes certain archetypes

[The White Wolf]

Maybe modifying the levels of those weaker level 5-6 monsters to level 4 would be a better idea, card edits aren't exactly difficult.

Though I doubt that they'll do that, considering the costs to reprint those cards vs people who would actually want them = no profit.

And as Catman said, introducing that mechanic would be difficult.

So, probably nothing's going to change.

 

 

Eventually we'll have 3000 ATK level 4 monsters.

[Dog King]

changing levels would be stupid and those vanillas should stay as they are could be used in the future

the idea is interesting but ita unneeded

[GarlandChaos]

changing levels would be stupid and those vanillas should stay as they are could be used in the future

the idea is interesting but its unneeded

I wasn't saying the levels should be changed. I was saying that an additional ruling/exception should be made for vanillas that fulfill the above criteria.

[Dog King]

i know what you were saying

read the post above mine

[Azuh]

Normality Pressure Field

[Field Spell]

When this card is activated: Add 1 Level 5 or higher non-Pendulum Normal Monster with 2000 or less ATK from your Deck or Graveyard to your hand. Level 5 or higher non-Pendulum Normal Monsters with 2000 or less ATK can be Normal Summoned without Tribute. If a Level 5 or higher non-Pendulum Normal Monster with 2000 or less ATK is Normal Summoned, once during that turn, you can Normal Summon 1 Level 5 or higher non-Pendulum Normal Monster monster in addition to your Normal Summon/Set. (You can only gain this effect once per turn.). 

 

All they need is a little TLC, not a new rule tbh

[GarlandChaos]

Normality Pressure Field

[Field Spell]

When this card is activated: Add 1 Level 5 or higher non-Pendulum Normal Monster with 2000 or less ATK from your Deck or Graveyard to your hand. Level 5 or higher non-Pendulum Normal Monsters with 2000 or less ATK can be Normal Summoned without Tribute. If a Level 5 or higher non-Pendulum Normal Monster with 2000 or less ATK is Normal Summoned, once during that turn, you can Normal Summon 1 Level 5 or higher non-Pendulum Normal Monster monster in addition to your Normal Summon/Set. (You can only gain this effect once per turn.). 

 

All they need is a little TLC, not a new rule tbh

That actually could work. Mind if I find some artwork for that and run it through the Card Maker?

[(GigaDrillBreaker)]

Eventually we'll have 3000 ATK level 4 monsters.

Considering the bar for the ATK of a level 4 normal hasn't been raised since GX time, this is not something that I expect to ever happen.

[Draconus297]

It did creep up the tiniest bit.

The strongest Normal Level 4 was Luster Dragon (1900). Now we have Alexandrite Dragon (2000).

 

Negligible, perhaps, but it is there.

[ihop]

Gene Warped Warwolf dude.

[(GigaDrillBreaker)]

It did creep up the tiniest bit.

The strongest Normal Level 4 was Luster Dragon (1900). Now we have Alexandrite Dragon (2000).

 

Negligible, perhaps, but it is there.

Gene Warped Warwolf was in Strike of Neos.

[Azuh]

That actually could work. Mind if I find some artwork for that and run it through the Card Maker?

 

Go ahead.

 

Even do more support if you want haha

[Sleepy]

If a rule is prone to need exceptions or needs to get nitpicky on stats like that, it might be better off to go for something else instead.

 

I mean, even if mid to high Level vanillas with 2k or less ATK suddenly get lighter, you still have an amount of them that will be left in the dust compared to the higher DEF values or that go close to the 2k mark like Curse of Dragon, which this example is even a Fusion Material with good support from its Type and Attribute. 

Of course it wouldn't be a completely insignificant change, but since the boost you get isn't all that much, you probably would be better off with something more simple to remember like "All Normal Monsters require 1 less Tribute for their Tribute Summon/Set." or if you want it to be more subtle, it'd be something like "Normal Monsters's Tribute Summon/Set requirements are 1 less for their lowest Level that'd require them under normal conditions (AKA Level 5 = no Tributes, Level 7= 1 Tribute)."

 

Power-creep would probably allow it at this point. There are effects in low-Level monsters that can get higher than vanillas anyways, and vanillas don't exactly have anything else going for them, so a 1 Tribute Dark Magician or a non-Tribute Cyber-Tech Alligator (for the subtle version of the above idea I wrote) sound about alright. The best you could do is probably Frostosaurus under Legendary Ocean. It'd also help with some of the old weak mid-Levels too because a huge amount of them is stuck on Level 5. At the very least it'd be better than something troublesome and somewhat absurd like errataing their Levels.

 

 

While at it, Yugioh (and this is somewhat unrelated) doesn't really have Normal Summonable Level 11+ monsters, anyways, so if the game is ever in the need for Normal Monsters with higher power than Blue-Eyes, I think that's the mark where "3 Tributes required" could be introduced as a rule without bothering the rest of the game (Earthbound Gods, Yubel, etc) that already exists on Level 10 with 2 Tributes designed for them..... Probably.