[1000 posts and change] Bujin Hiroko

[~Faytl~]

So I hit 1000 posts and didn't notice. BUT WHATEVER. MILESTONES, B*TCH.

 

 

You can banish this card from your Pendulum Zone, then target 1 "Bujin" Xyz Monster you control; Special Summon from your Extra Deck, 1 "Bujin" Xyz Monster with a different name than that target, by using it as the Xyz Material. (This Special Summon is treated as an Xyz Summon. Xyz Materials attached to it also become Xyz Materials on the Summoned monster.)

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A wicked god who was sealed away after his deadly showdown with Bujin Hirume over the throne of the Chief God in the distant past. In order to break the seal placed on him, he controlled Hirume, created the sinister Amaterasu, and threatened to engulf the world in darkness. But his ambitions were thwarted by the young Yamato and his allies.

 

 

So I don't just want to discuss this card for my 1000 posts; I also want to discuss the IDEA of this card as a whole. That is, adding Pendulum monsters to older archetypes, like this, Crystal Vanguard, Deskbots 5-8, Symphonic Mics, you get the idea. What do you think about giving older archetypes Pendulum support? Is it a good idea? Is it a bad idea? What kind of problems or benefits can it present? Can it be implemented well and how can it be implemented well? I personally think there's a lot of potential for decks that have long been considered unusable in the form of Pendulum monsters, and can take them in new and interesting directions.

 

Discuss.

[Ryusei the Morning Star]

It's a funking amazing idea!

 

Sadly, most people don't realize that pendulums don't have to be used for summoning by mass. They can also bump up your S/T zone to 8. Cards like the ones you mentioned and Ragnarok (D/D) offer the deck so much. I really love the idea behind this card and wish that Konami would make more like it for older decks

 

That aside, I kinda wanna investigate how rabbit would work in a Bujin deck. Never got down to doing it, but it's on my 2du list

[The Nyx Avatar]

What's nice is how you can also add this card with Painful Decision.

[Progenitor]

Alien Zefra was the sheet back when Zefras were even remotely relevant. What does that mean? Aliens need Pendulums. And these pendulums need to search the spells somehow.

 

Then the deck will actually be fast enough to not die instantly

That aside, I kinda wanna investigate how rabbit would work in a Bujin deck. Never got down to doing it, but it's on my 2du list

You don't have to. I already tried. Bujins can already sheet out a rank 4 or two fairly easily and you generally want this card in your hand to extend those plays. Not only that, but this card generally bricks at anything higher than 2

[Kaiji]

Boutta make that Brilliant Bujin at some point Lazuli + Hiruko memes. One of the best parts of the card is how well it's pairs with Tsukuyomi since you can place this as a scale before getting value out of Tsuku's effect and rank it up.

[byak]

You don't have to. I already tried. Bujins can already sheet out a rank 4 or two fairly easily and you generally want this card in your hand to extend those plays. Not only that, but this card generally bricks at anything higher than 2

I thought that the point was that you used a bunch of lightsworns, trick clown, bri fusion, snow white etc to flood your board with bujin xyzs turn 1

[Maeriberii Haan]

That aside, I kinda wanna investigate how rabbit would work in a Bujin deck. Never got down to doing it, but it's on my 2du list

 

Really well iirc

 

would need to run a weird-ish list though but iirc the OCG has a build or two featuring this.

 

also tsuku into draws banish this rank slide into ama use ama to get this seems pretty meme but idk

 

OT: really good idea as a concept. Done right it can do a lot of things at once for the archetype without printing too much, since as Winter said, they do double in function as a continuous spell.

[Ryusei the Morning Star]

Really well iirc

 

would need to run a weird-ish list though but iirc the OCG has a build or two featuring this.

 

also tsuku into draws banish this rank slide into ama use ama to get this seems pretty meme but idk

 

OT: really good idea as a concept. Done right it can do a lot of things at once for the archetype without printing too much, since as Winter said, they do double in function as a continuous spell.

The two problems I see are 1) the Normal Reliance of the deck. 2) The Normals would run out rather fast. I guess the difference here is that the normals have a secondary utility.

 

But I'll go hunt for them builds. Wish there was a card to move pendulums from the field to scales.

[byak]

The two problems I see are 1) the Normal Reliance of the deck. 2) The Normals would run out rather fast. I guess the difference here is that the normals have a secondary utility.

 

But I'll go hunt for them builds. Wish there was a card to move pendulums from the field to scales.

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[IQuitDolphin]

>3 Lazuli

>3 Brilliant

>ONE Seraphinite

 

omfg what is that awful theory....

[Dova]

Guess what? Tested with two Lazuli and two Brilliant. It doesn't work. The archetype mills so much A) You'll mill 2 if not 3 of your Fusions and B) You can easily add back your Bujin if it is in your Graveyard if you mill Lazuli.

[byak]

>3 Lazuli

>3 Brilliant

>ONE Seraphinite

 

omfg what is that awful theory....

If you resolve one Brilliant Fusion you're already winning, and the multiple Lazuli are for Kagutsuchi and Tsukuyomi to get more Hirukos. The point is that you go off in one turn and establish a board that's extremely difficult to break (3-4 bujinteis, giant hand, snow white in graveyard), so you're almost never going to want to summon seraphinite more than once.

 

I mean if you're that butthurt about it you could just take out an Emeral for a second Seraphinite, but you're rarely going to need it.

[Ryusei the Morning Star]

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But we were talking about Rescue Rabbit :/

[byak]

But we were talking about Rescue Rabbit :/

There was meant to be a Rescue Rabbit there but it slipped my mind within the 30 minutes of building/fishbowling

 

The point is that Hiruko makes Bujins an extremely volatile deck, but a lot of the old bujins are garbage. Fortunately, Hiruko lets you ignore them by working directly with the Bujinteis, which can be easily made without Bujins.

 

Playing a slow Bujin deck with Rabbit just seems mediocre, especially since you probably have to play more normal monsters.

[Ryusei the Morning Star]

There was meant to be a Rescue Rabbit there but it slipped my mind within the 30 minutes of building/fishbowling

 

The point is that Hiruko makes Bujins an extremely volatile deck, but a lot of the old bujins are garbage. Fortunately, Hiruko lets you ignore them by working directly with the Bujinteis, which can be easily made without Bujins.

 

Playing a slow Bujin deck with Rabbit just seems mediocre, especially since you probably have to play more normal monsters.

It gets tougher when you consider that OCG has 3 rabbit.

 

I'm hunting for those builds that Nai was talking about, but maybe you're right. Verz only have 3 normals but run 3 bunny all the same. 

 

What old Bujin are trash may I ask?

[Maeriberii Haan]

Right, byak's post reminded me.

 

Iirc the build was actually Normal pendulums featuring Hiruko and perhaps some other bujins, i forgot. Been a while tho but what byak has pretty much covers the base plays

[Slinky]

It gets tougher when you consider that OCG has 3 rabbit.

 

I'm hunting for those builds that Nai was talking about, but maybe you're right. Verz only have 3 normals but run 3 bunny all the same. 

 

What old Bujin are trash may I ask?

 

If you noticed, he's only running Hiroko, Hirumei, and Arasuda