Alspencer121793 Posted November 18, 2016 Report Share Posted November 18, 2016 Chouetsu Yuugou / Transcendental FusionNormal Spell CardCards and effects cannot be activated in reponse to this card’s activation(1) Pay 2000 LP; Fusion Sumon 1 Fusion Monster from your Extra Deck, using 2 monsters you control as Fusion Materials.(2) You can banish this card from your Graveyard, then target 1 monster Fusion Summoned using this card’s effect; Special Summon all of the Fusion Materials for that monster’s Fusion Summon from your Graveyard, but their ATK and DEF become 0, also their effects are negated. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Highlander Posted November 18, 2016 Report Share Posted November 18, 2016 This card is amazing (Synchro-Fusion anyone ?), going for 2 summons with a single generic Fusion Spell, honestly we should have gotten this (and outside archtype fusions (like first of dragons)) much earlier. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Warden Posted November 18, 2016 Report Share Posted November 18, 2016 I'm pretty sure with this translation, that the mats need to be on the field. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lee Cheng Men Posted November 18, 2016 Report Share Posted November 18, 2016 Looks like Fluffals and Lunalights got their best Fusion card now Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Highlander Posted November 18, 2016 Report Share Posted November 18, 2016 Looks like Fluffals and Lunalights got their best Fusion card now Funnily enough Raidraptors have some synergy with this (how is that Beartic ?) and Phantom Knights even more, adding an easy Starve Venom to the field. EDIT: Lyrical Luscina and Winter Witches are further examples. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlackBeartic Posted November 18, 2016 Report Share Posted November 18, 2016 Funnily enough Raidraptors have some synergy with this (how is that Beartic ?) and Phantom Knights even more, adding an easy Starve Venom to the field. EDIT: Lyrical Luscina and Winter Witches are further examples. The irony lmao. Almost any dark deck can use this and then immedately make an xyz summon as well. it's a REALLY good card (and for RR it makes BB Falcon way easier to be live). Will actually test this in some decks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-kyo- Posted November 18, 2016 Report Share Posted November 18, 2016 does this mean we'll never get Underworld Resonance? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
~~~~ Posted November 18, 2016 Report Share Posted November 18, 2016 does this mean we'll never get Underworld Resonance?this basically is Underworld Resonance, but better because you can Xyz instead should you wish nice card Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neochu-H Posted November 18, 2016 Report Share Posted November 18, 2016 this basically is Underworld Resonance, but better because you can Xyz instead should you wish nice card this is not even close to underworld resonance Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
~~~~ Posted November 18, 2016 Report Share Posted November 18, 2016 this is not even close to underworld resonanceit lets you Fusion Summon and Synchro Summon with the same 2 monsters, while avoiding the awkward simultaneous Synchro and Fusion Summon gimmick that might throw up some odd rulings. So "not even close" is an exaggeration to say the least. This is likely the closest we'll get to Underworld Resonance, and in reality the two cards do almost the exact same thing, with Transdental being just slightly more flexible. EDIT: Actually quite a lot more flexible, not slightly more. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryusei the Morning Star Posted November 18, 2016 Report Share Posted November 18, 2016 I really want Time Fusion now! Anyway, deck like Metalphosis or Shaddolls which can keep getting back Fusion spells might conceivably Summon twice I assume in RR you're going summon Starve Venom+Force? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vla1ne Posted November 18, 2016 Report Share Posted November 18, 2016 When i read the first line, I was expecting a toned down super poly. The 2k cost is pretty steep, luckily, this baby can't get negated, so you minimize the risk. Also, in generic psychic.deck, you can now drop axon kicker, bring back your monsters, and continue laddering while simultaneously opening up the avenue for all your "If your life points are lower than your opponents..." cards. Yay for more options! this basically is Underworld Resonance, but better because you can Xyz instead should you wish nice cardstill want both. that'd be 3x the amount of power in the deck, and i don't believe you'd need to have them on field for resonance. imagine the OTK power from using this alongside resonance though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
~~~~ Posted November 18, 2016 Report Share Posted November 18, 2016 I really want Time Fusion now! Anyway, deck like Metalphosis or Shaddolls which can keep getting back Fusion spells might conceivably Summon twice I assume in RR you're going summon Starve Venom+Force?Metalfoes would go the Extra Deck instead of the grave, so you can't use this with them EDIT:When i read the first line, I was expecting a toned down super poly. The 2k cost is pretty steep, luckily, this baby can't get negated, so you minimize the risk. Also, in generic psychic.deck, you can now drop axon kicker, bring back your monsters, and continue laddering while simultaneously opening up the avenue for all your "If your life points are lower than your opponents..." cards. Yay for more options! still want both. that'd be 3x the amount of power in the deck, and i don't believe you'd need to have them on field for resonance. imagine the OTK power from using this alongside resonance though.If I remember correctly, Sergey had his materials on the field before activating Underworld Resonance, so there's no reason the real-world card wouldn't also have that restriction. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryusei the Morning Star Posted November 18, 2016 Report Share Posted November 18, 2016 Right, Shaddolls it is :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blake Posted November 18, 2016 Report Share Posted November 18, 2016 The issue is that its niche is being a more narrow but more powerful Miracle Fusion. Card's really strong, but there are very few decks that can actually take major advantage of this, due to the field restriction, and it's unlikely that those that can (Fluffal, Metalfoe, Dolls) either don't want to or simply don't need to. High power, but in the wrong way, not in the BriFu way. Only really fits into Predaplant. Granted, if/when Predaplants get their tuner, this just sells it in that deck even more. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Highlander Posted November 18, 2016 Report Share Posted November 18, 2016 this is not even close to underworld resonance It can use the monsters for a synchro right afterwards. That aside it even includes the synchro rings (and something similar to an xyz orbital). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blake Posted November 18, 2016 Report Share Posted November 18, 2016 given slots and effect, it seems pretty clear that this is how yuri shits out clear wing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryusei the Morning Star Posted November 18, 2016 Report Share Posted November 18, 2016 Ok this card has some problem in shaddoll You want some combination of Naga, Winda, Moonrose, and Clearwing So Winda+Glow-Up=Naga, use this, winda+glow up=stardust assult, draw 1, glow up into clear/moon So net gain is you draw 1, add back 2 shaddoll Fusion (fuel for Naga), and have 3 eff negators or an eff negator and a bouncer. Not terrible. But requires you to normal summon a one of card... It's harder if you wanna end up on Winda+Clear/Moon, because winda will see the first summon, and not let you do too much with the cards you bring back. I suppose you can set El Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
~~~~ Posted November 18, 2016 Report Share Posted November 18, 2016 The issue is that its niche is being a more narrow but more powerful Miracle Fusion. Card's really strong, but there are very few decks that can actually take major advantage of this, due to the field restriction, and it's unlikely that those that can (Fluffal, Metalfoe, Dolls) either don't want to or simply don't need to. High power, but in the wrong way, not in the BriFu way. Only really fits into Predaplant. Granted, if/when Predaplants get their tuner, this just sells it in that deck even more.Umm, any DARK deck can just make a Starve Venom at +0 and -2000LP, or is that not worth it? Also negates their effects so you can use it in BA, get the Grave effects and then Xyz up for getting those Grave effects later. I suppose that with Metalfoes you could use 2 Fusions to make a 3rd Fusion, but then value are you getting? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blake Posted November 18, 2016 Report Share Posted November 18, 2016 Umm, any DARK deck can just make a Starve Venom at +0 and -2000LP, or is that not worth it? Also negates their effects so you can use it in BA, get the Grave effects and then Xyz up for getting those Grave effects later. I suppose that with Metalfoes you could use 2 Fusions to make a 3rd Fusion, but then value are you getting?See: Miracle Fusion point. Better cards aren't worth running a Miracle Fusion card for, Starve Venom most certainly isn't, unless you're going for R8 memes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vla1ne Posted November 18, 2016 Report Share Posted November 18, 2016 EDIT:If I remember correctly, Sergey had his materials on the field before activating Underworld Resonance, so there's no reason the real-world card wouldn't also have that restriction.possibly, but i'm holding out hope that you don't need to have them on field. then again, since it includes synchro summoning, yeah, it probably needs them on field. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toffee. Posted November 18, 2016 Report Share Posted November 18, 2016 Pendulum your Pend/Sync/Xyz/Fusion-Dragon Magicians -> Use this to make Zarc -> Revive your 4 Magicians -> Make whatever the funk. Cuz' we all love really niche plays :/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
玄魔の王 Posted November 18, 2016 Report Share Posted November 18, 2016 Night Howl into Lilith into Genghis, then Alexander? I dunno. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
~~~~ Posted November 18, 2016 Report Share Posted November 18, 2016 Pendulum your Pend/Sync/Xyz/Fusion-Dragon Magicians -> Use this to make Zarc -> Revive your 4 Magicians -> Make whatever the f***. Cuz' we all love really niche plays :/This card uses 2 materials for the Fusion Summon, so you can't do this. Also the 4 Magicians are Pendulums so they don't go to grave. See: Miracle Fusion point.You can't use Miracle Fusion to make Starve Venom. Also Miracle Fusion requires that you get the materials in grave, so you'd either have to Synchro or make your Xyz be something that detaches both, like Castel. Better cards aren't worth running a Miracle Fusion card for, Starve Venom most certainly isn't, unless you're going for R8 memes.Ok, fair enough. It's true that Starve Venom isn't great, but I don't see why a better Fusion monster wouldn't make this card more viable. Imagine this in something like Shaidollons. EDIT: Imagine making Norden with this.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryusei the Morning Star Posted November 18, 2016 Report Share Posted November 18, 2016 EDIT: Imagine making Norden with this... Edit, the card doesn't work well in Shaddoll, the chance of normal summoning a GUB and having this, is too tiny Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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