Which is the Best Machine Emperor?

[burnpsy]

I know we've already discussed them separately, but there's one thing that wasn't quite made clear, as they were separate discussions.

Put simply, which one of the three Machine Emperors is the best?

Differences:
[spoiler=Grannel]EARTH
0 ATK / 0 DEF
This card gains ATK and DEF equal to half your Life Points. Once per turn, during your Main Phase, you can Special Summon 1 Synchro Monster equipped to this card to your side of the field in face-up Defense Position.[/spoiler]
[spoiler=Skiel]WIND
2200 ATK / 2200 DEF
Other monsters you control cannot declare an attack. By sending a monster equipped to this card to the Graveyard, this card can attack your opponent directly this turn.[/spoiler]
[spoiler=Wisel]DARK
2500 ATK / 2500 DEF
Other monsters you control cannot declare an attack. Once per turn, you can negate the activation of an opponent's Spell Card and destroy it.[/spoiler]

All three have their benefits. All three are splashable. All three became more usable when Dark Hole was announced as newly Limited. But which one works out best? That's something I can't quite figure out.

[GenzoTheHarpist]

wisel is the best by far IMO. Grannel is situational and skiel is weak.

[Bringerofcake]

IMO Grannel. Potential ATK of 4000 AT LEAST, can pull the monster that your opponent worked so hard to pull out onto your side, and your other monsters can attack.

If what I believe is true (that Grannel somehow got mistranslated and has the "only this card can attack" clause), then Wisel.

[Kaisu]

Grannel can OTK easily when combined with Ancient Sacred Wyvern, methinks. PMD spam and stuff...

Skiel... Eh, I dunno. Maybe.

Wisel... Eh, I guess.

But... Colossal Fighter + Armory Arm + Creature Swap?

[Manjoume Thunder]

Skiel is terrible.
Wisel is for control.
Grannel can otk easier.

[Just Crouton]

It depends on what you want for your deck. Grannel creates field presence, Skiel is a cheap direct attack, and Wisel is a beatdown.

Probably Wisel. Better chance of survival and more consistent than Grannel.

[El-Rrey]

It depends on the player preferences: Wisel is for Control and Grannel is for lolBeatdown but who is the best is something that i don't know!

[White Void]

The way I see it is they're all useful for different parts of the game:

Grannel is best early game when your LP is high and he can put a lot of pressure on the opponent, Wisel is best mid game for a bit more control and limiting of their options, and Skiel is best end game when you just want to finish it and need that last little bit of damage.

[-Griffin]

[quote name='Manjoume Thunder' timestamp='1282197192' post='4541610']
Skiel is terrible.
Wisel is for control.
Grannel can otk easier.
[/quote]

Agreed with all, really. I'd probably use Wisel most =/

[Azuh]

Poor Skiel D:

Grannel is a beast, Wisel is pretty awesome too

[Thomas★Zero]

Grannel(early play)> Wisle > Grannel (later play) > Skiel

its the whole fact that Grannal gets additional ATK from half of your life points meaning on how much you lost its gunna be much weaker.

[.Nu-13]

The best one is Grannel. Wisel is good, and Skiel is meh.

[Kyosuke Kiryu]

Wisel is the best.

[Exiro]

They went from good to bad. Sure, Grannel can OTK, but it isn't very consistent. Wisel will be very hard to kill.

[Toffee.]

I wish they didnt kill Skiel >___>

Grannel can OTK easier, as it would have the most ATK half the time, and it doesnt limit you to only itself attacking.

[Exiro]

[quote name='Armadilloz' timestamp='1282228388' post='4542261']
I wish they didnt kill Skiel >___>

Grannel can OTK easier, as it would have the most ATK half the time, and it doesnt limit you to only itself attacking.
[/quote]
But with Wisel, you won't need other monsters!

[Dr. Cakey]

As long as you have 5000+ Life Points, Grannel is the strongest in terms of ATK. Wisel is definitely a beast, but the previous format was Trap-heavy and this one doesn't have to worry about Heavy Storm anymore, so Wisel has become fairly easy to play around. Skiel...I'm hoping that's not the proper text for Skiel, and it doesn't prevent all your other monsters from attacking.

Also, for some reason I can never get Wisel out, but get Grannel easily. Does that make sense?

[evilfusion]

Huh, we predicted Skiel's effect correctly. It's unfortunate that its effect is bad, but I still like Skiel. Wisel is the best, in my opinion. It has a guaranteed amount of attack and needs the opponent to hold onto their spells to play 2 a turn, or lose them to Wisel's effect.

Grannel is tricky. I can't help but thnk it SHOULD have the "only monster attack" clause, but its effect indicates that it doesn't on purpose (why weaken Grannel to summon something other than Stardust, if it can't attack?) It's almost broken the way it is.

Of the three, I'd play Wisel.

[Great Unclean One: VK]

Skiel for stall.

Grannel for OTK.

Wisel for control.

Machine Emperor Stall Control FTW?

[evilfusion]

[quote name='General VK-Duelist/Shepard' timestamp='1282242035' post='4543256']
Skiel for stall.

Grannel for OTK.

Wisel for control.

Machine Emperor Stall Control FTW?
[/quote]

A direct attack effect= stall?

It makes sense for stall in that all the Machine Emperors are, astoundingly, at level 1 and therefore Gravity Bind and Level Limit are their friends. But...who would run Skiel for "stall"? Wisel's control element is better for stall.

[Great Unclean One: VK]

[quote name='evilfusion' timestamp='1282242210' post='4543269']
A direct attack effect= stall?

It makes sense for stall in that all the Machine Emperors are, astoundingly, at level 1 and therefore Gravity Bind and Level Limit are their friends. But...who would run Skiel for "stall"? Wisel's control element is better for stall.
[/quote]


Set monster --> Dark Hole --> Summon Skiel or another --> Level Limit --> Discard then attack directly

[evilfusion]

Again, you're running Skiel exclusively for this, rather than Wisel and Grannel? In order for Skiel to consistently direct attack, your opponent has to keep feeding you Synchro monsters, and unlike Rua, most people won't summon another Synchro monster in the presence of a Machine Emperor without a solid plan to not get said Synchro monster fed to Skiel.

At least whenever Yusei summoned a Synchro in the presence of Wisel, he had a plan to dodge Wisel's Synchro Stealing effect.

[Great Unclean One: VK]

[quote name='evilfusion' timestamp='1282242519' post='4543296']
Again, you're running Skiel exclusively for this, rather than Wisel and Grannel? In order for Skiel to consistently direct attack, your opponent has to keep feeding you Synchro monsters, and unlike Rua, most people won't summon another Synchro monster in the presence of a Machine Emperor without a solid plan to not get said Synchro monster fed to Skiel.

At least whenever Yusei summoned a Synchro in the presence of Wisel, he had a plan to dodge Wisel's Synchro Stealing effect.
[/quote]

Oops.

Sorry.

Please forgive my constant stupidity.

[Exiro]

It's also handy to have your monster face-up before destroying it.

[Flame Dragon]

[quote name='Azuh' timestamp='1282211992' post='4541876']
Poor Skiel D:

Grannel is a beast, Wisel is pretty awesome too
[/quote]
I agree with this post.