King of Nothing Posted June 30, 2011 Report Share Posted June 30, 2011 Alright, it seems like the Meta is broke beyond repair. If the meta was a window, Konami has smashed it with a baseball and then used the baseball bat to repeatedly break it "Office Space" style. My question is this: Is the meta truly "Broke beyond repair"? The ban list allows for only one royal oppression, essentially forcing players to pick decks that let them draw and summon fast. Cards that, before, would be considered amazing aren't even being looked at now, and some are even being considered noob cards. Field nukes like dark hole are only minor setbacks for most decks. Mass special summoning from the graveyard is allowed, no, required, in most tier 3+ decks. FTKs are no longer a rarity, and OTKs occur in almost every duel. The winner of a duel is more often than not the winner of the rock paper scizzors match at the beginning of the duel. So, with all of that being said...how can it be fixed? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ieyasu Tokugawa Posted June 30, 2011 Report Share Posted June 30, 2011 *looks at first username* You called? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King of Nothing Posted June 30, 2011 Author Report Share Posted June 30, 2011 Yes the meta is very gross Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
evilhorus Posted June 30, 2011 Report Share Posted June 30, 2011 If it were fixed, most players would abandon their cards and play MtG. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King of Nothing Posted June 30, 2011 Author Report Share Posted June 30, 2011 I did that because it wasn't fixed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Solemn Silver Posted June 30, 2011 Report Share Posted June 30, 2011 I'm 50% thinking Heavy Storm should come back... I want to use it, but I don't want it used against me lol Also Starlight road meta :L Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
byak Posted June 30, 2011 Report Share Posted June 30, 2011 [quote]Field nukes like dark hole are only minor setbacks for most decks. Mass special summoning from the graveyard is allowed, no, required, in most tier 3+ decks. FTKs are no longer a rarity, and OTKs occur in almost every duel.[/quote] wat Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King of Nothing Posted June 30, 2011 Author Report Share Posted June 30, 2011 [quote name='ＴＨＥ ＧＯＤ ＯＦ ＯＳＩＲＩＳ' timestamp='1309396817' post='5321090'] wat [/quote] Srsly, bro Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sleepy Posted June 30, 2011 Report Share Posted June 30, 2011 I haven't been looking at the meta much lately but... what's topping to make the meta like that? last I checked I saw a bunch of different Decks being run around. Six Samurais and X Sabers outstanding a little above all, and Fabled Decks were everywhere (although most said they weren't good enough/weren't meta). Then at some point I started hearing about Hyper Librarian and Shooting Quasar (one of which is not ever released yet here and the other just barely recently became legal). What are these FTK Decks you speak of? =0 I have the hunch you speak of some Plant Variant and Fishies.. if that's the case, the meta should have a clear repair. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King of Nothing Posted June 30, 2011 Author Report Share Posted June 30, 2011 Mass revival. Call of the Haunted, Monster Reborn. Hyper Librarian can let you draw out your deck, and soon future fusion will be a 1-card ftk. Ftks aren't a new concept, they've been around for a while. A lot of cards can special summon themselves from the graveyard, or special summon something else when they die. If you guys ask me, the best way to fix the meta is if there was a limit of non-token special summons that could be done a turn, possibly 3 or 4. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lonk Posted June 30, 2011 Report Share Posted June 30, 2011 Actually, if you payed attention, the meta is actually more balanced than some of the previous years. Granted, the meta is very fast but that is expected with age. It wasn't like the times in where if you get a Chaos monster, DAD or Substitoad on the field, you win the duel. There are actually a diverse amount of decks winning instead of like 2-4 different deck types always winning. If you payed attention to the YCS placings, you would see. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sleepy Posted June 30, 2011 Report Share Posted June 30, 2011 [quote name='King of Nothing' timestamp='1309398466' post='5321169'] Mass revival. Call of the Haunted, Monster Reborn. Hyper Librarian can let you draw out your deck, and soon future fusion will be a 1-card ftk. Ftks aren't a new concept, they've been around for a while. A lot of cards can special summon themselves from the graveyard, or special summon something else when they die. If you guys ask me, the best way to fix the meta is if there was a limit of non-token special summons that could be done a turn, possibly 3 or 4. [/quote] Experimental Alternate Advanced Format: Initial Life Points: 10 000 Minimum Deck Size: 50 cards Maximum [i]times[/i] a player can Special Summon per turn: 5 (equal to the Monster Zones and still allowing for a 1-turn Synchro/Fusion/Xyz,) Normal Monster Rule: Level 5 vanillas need no Tributes, Level 7 vanillas need 1 Tribute, everything else as is. +obligatory list change. ^I could see a few casual players trying suggestions and see what happens. As for your suggestion, Konami would maybe eventually update the cards in such a way that we would fall again in this. While further outclassing older cards (just a theory) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Just Crouton Posted June 30, 2011 Report Share Posted June 30, 2011 [quote name='King of Nothing' timestamp='1309395691' post='5321029'] Field nukes like dark hole are only minor setbacks for most decks. [/quote] What? [quote name='King of Nothing' timestamp='1309395691' post='5321029'] So, with all of that being said...how can it be fixed? [/quote] If it ain't broke, why fix it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canadian Posted June 30, 2011 Report Share Posted June 30, 2011 "Yes, the duel is going on for quite a while now..." "Oh really?" "Why yes, there are in turn 5." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King of Nothing Posted June 30, 2011 Author Report Share Posted June 30, 2011 [quote name='Canadian' timestamp='1309400416' post='5321244'] "Yes, the duel is going on for quite a while now..." "Oh really?" "Why yes, there are in turn 5." [/quote] Must be a stall deck. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toffee. Posted June 30, 2011 Report Share Posted June 30, 2011 [quote name='King of Nothing' timestamp='1309395691' post='5321029'] Rarity[/quote] *Is shot* [quote name='Canadian' timestamp='1309400416' post='5321244'] "Yes, the duel is going on for quite a while now..." "Oh really?" "Why yes, there are in turn 5." [/quote] "Can it be?" "NO WAY..." "Turn [i]6![/i]" "Call Guinness" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boss Z Posted June 30, 2011 Report Share Posted June 30, 2011 I'm actually liking the Meta, its seems really diverse to me, which is nice because you don't feel like you play the same person over and over with those stupid SixSam, X Saber and GK Decks... Issue is, its really hard to know what to place in your Side Deck, since you have no way of even guessing what you'll be going against... I don't really have an issue with this game other than the price of cards, which makes it near impossible for me to jumo in and start playing IRL... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
evilfusion Posted June 30, 2011 Report Share Posted June 30, 2011 I like the meta diversity, but Sams are still on the notch above the rest. Really, it's hard for me to face a Sam player and not automatically think I'm dead. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Catterjune Posted June 30, 2011 Report Share Posted June 30, 2011 Most recent top 16: 13 Tengu Synchro 3 Six Sam Diversity. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
burnpsy Posted June 30, 2011 Report Share Posted June 30, 2011 [quote name='PikaPerson01' timestamp='1309404501' post='5321366'] Most recent top 16: 13 Tengu Synchro 3 Six Sam [/quote] 1 – Anibal Valverde Mendoza (Six Samurai) 2 – Jose Cubero (Tengu Synchron) 3 – Alejandro Reyes Suarez (Mexican National Champion – Six Samurai) 4 – Josue Gil (Guatemalan National Champion – Tengu Synchro) 5 – Galileo De Obaldia (Panamanian National Champion, World Champion 2010 – Tengu Synchro) 6 – Rolando Gordon Bustamante (Tengu Synchron) 7 – Emanuel Rios Carmona (X-Saber) 8 – Cesar Saborio (Gladiator Beasts) 9 – Luis Herrera Melara (Tengu Synchron) 10 – Franz Segura (Tengu Synchron) 11 – Oscar Martinez Romero (Tengu Synchron) 12 – Pedro Buitrago (Worm) 13 – Jonathan Zaldana (Tengu Synchron) 14 – Ernesto Gomez Hernandez (Tengu Synchron) 15 – Emmanuel Peñaranda (Scraps) 16 – William Morales (Gladiator Beasts) nope.gif EDIT: No, the most recent YCS wasn't how you claimed either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
byak Posted June 30, 2011 Report Share Posted June 30, 2011 [quote name='PikaPerson01' timestamp='1309404501' post='5321366'] Most recent top 16: 13 Tengu Synchro 3 Six Sam Diversity. [/quote] The meta as it stands right now, is that Plants ARE the best deck, but practically any deck can win a YCS. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bringerofcake Posted June 30, 2011 Report Share Posted June 30, 2011 This meta is why they sent people back in time in 5ds. Also: [quote name='PikaPerson01' timestamp='1309303001' post='5318096'] A deck type with a Breaker, a D-Draw, a Zombie Master, a free 2100 beatstick out of nowhere, a super Monarch, a field nuke, a Man Eater Bug that destroys S/Ts as well, and a huge attack boost from the hand during damage calculation isn't considered broken in this terrible, terrible meta. [/quote] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
.Nu-13 Posted June 30, 2011 Report Share Posted June 30, 2011 Do we have Samurai or Infernity-like deck in format? Nope. Meta is fine Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lonk Posted June 30, 2011 Report Share Posted June 30, 2011 [quote name='ＴＨＥ ＧＯＤ ＯＦ ＯＳＩＲＩＳ' timestamp='1309405247' post='5321376'] The meta as it stands right now, is that Plants ARE the best deck, but practically any deck can win a YCS. [/quote] If they are the best deck, then why do they die against Jurracs? [IMG]http://www.mytinyphone.com/uploads/users/motafetus/472480.gif[/IMG] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marcher boyz Posted June 30, 2011 Report Share Posted June 30, 2011 [quote name='Klavier Gavin' timestamp='1309422414' post='5321744'] Do we have Samurai or Infernity-like deck in format? Nope. Meta is fine [/quote] lol Konami just needs to hit the plant engine and ban shi-en, then we'll have even better deck diversity Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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