Guest Izaya Orihara Posted August 16, 2012 Report Share Posted August 16, 2012 (Double Post)Accidentally.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miror B Posted August 16, 2012 Report Share Posted August 16, 2012 Not if we keep doing what Botvinnik wants to do. The protesters were LARGELY ignored the first two years until they grew in size and did big things to gain notoriety.The problem is whether or not we protest YCMaker still gets money from ads. Us protesting doesn't affect him in the slightest. Hell he's had his account DELETED and what'd he do? Fix it and move on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Izaya Orihara Posted August 16, 2012 Report Share Posted August 16, 2012 The problem is whether or not we protest YCMaker still gets money from ads. Us protesting doesn't affect him in the slightest. Hell he's had his account DELETED and what'd he do? Fix it and move on.The more we do it. The more annoyed he gets. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miror B Posted August 16, 2012 Report Share Posted August 16, 2012 The more we do it. The more annoyed he gets.Why would he get annoyed? It's not like he visits often enough for that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Izaya Orihara Posted August 16, 2012 Report Share Posted August 16, 2012 Why would he get annoyed? It's not like he visits often enough for that.He shut down the whole site to get his account back. He was probably bothered in some way by this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Izaya Orihara Posted August 16, 2012 Report Share Posted August 16, 2012 (Okay for some reason I keep double posting everything) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Catman25 Posted August 16, 2012 Report Share Posted August 16, 2012 And if anyone wants YCMaker's real name, it's Will Adams-Keane.Don't think we should be linking YCMaker's FB. KK?-FD YCMaker is interested in black people. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flame Dragon Posted August 16, 2012 Report Share Posted August 16, 2012 Just gonna respond to this because it seems a major battle is about to break out and it being my whole idea to leave this open. o.0 Anyone, at anytime can PM a moderator to discuss the unbanning of an individual (like that will help =P). I just assumed it would be nice to have a public place to share how/why the site lost a Super Mod, because obviously YCMaker didn't. Not sure about you or anyone else, but the amount of statuses and PMs that I would get if this thread was locked originally would be so stupid high that I had no desire to mess with. There was a thread which showed why JMax was banned, but w/e. (Where did that thread go? =[) tl;dr LZ is a lazy mod who hates being bothered so shut up Also, don't expect my opinion on the whole "rock the boat", because my very nature is against rocking the boat. Edit: So that thread on JMax was eventually deleted/hidden.....ok....doesn't mean it wasn't there for a long time.Just going to throw it out there that I stand by that choice. Also, as bad a admin as YCMaker is lets not link he's FB profile or anything. I half want to edit his name out of the post that has it, but since that is something that is more common knowledge as this point I don't see much point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mehmani Posted August 16, 2012 Report Share Posted August 16, 2012 The problem is whether or not we protest YCMaker still gets money from ads. Us protesting doesn't affect him in the slightest. Hell he's had his account DELETED and what'd he do? Fix it and move on. Actually, he loses revenue as the site loses visitors. So the more this site degenerates, the less money YCMaker gets. Which leads to my new idea - how about a general strike? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MK-ultra Posted August 16, 2012 Report Share Posted August 16, 2012 Actually, he loses revenue as the site loses visitors. So the more this site degenerates, the less money YCMaker gets. Which leads to my new idea - how about a general strike?well what kinda of strike are u proposing?like a mass exodius so YCM notices that he isnt gedtting any more money and then comes back? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nu-Mou Knight Posted August 16, 2012 Report Share Posted August 16, 2012 Actually, he loses revenue as the site loses visitors. So the more this site degenerates, the less money YCMaker gets. Which leads to my new idea - how about a general strike? The problem there is that new members who aren't aware of this will still visit the Card Maker, and DN is PACKED with people who come here just for that. What we do has no effect on what others do, especially when those others have no reason to strike outside Xyz. Now, if we could blank out the Card Maker with a note to go to YuGiCo or something, that might help, but seeing as doing that would mean we could throw Xyz in just as easily, that idea's out the window. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mehmani Posted August 16, 2012 Report Share Posted August 16, 2012 I mean a strike for moderators only. If all the mods just said "we're not going to do anything until you help us". All hell would break loose and YCMaker would be forced into action. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tourmaline Posted August 16, 2012 Report Share Posted August 16, 2012 That may depend on exactly how extreme his apathy is, Botvinnik. If it is so much he's only willing to revive himself, would he pay attention to the moderators going on strike when some areas already maintain a degree of control without them? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tormented Posted August 16, 2012 Report Share Posted August 16, 2012 But surely the loss of Mods would increase activity because people could be let to run loose and more spammer would come along, and in-turn make YCM more money. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tourmaline Posted August 16, 2012 Report Share Posted August 16, 2012 If the chaos ascended and YCMaker remained so lethargic, the level-headed or impatient members would grow tired of that chaos and leave. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tormented Posted August 16, 2012 Report Share Posted August 16, 2012 But would the number of members leaving equal out to the number of members spamming, in turn even then the same money would be made, if not more. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Yuzuru Otonashi Posted August 16, 2012 Report Share Posted August 16, 2012 What does it matter if "competent members" leave? "Incompetent" members would thrive more than ever and generate more cash for him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tourmaline Posted August 16, 2012 Report Share Posted August 16, 2012 How many new members create a topic of spam and leave forever in comparison to the few who consistently visit? If too many competent members left, the forum would eventually die if the loss was left to grow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tormented Posted August 16, 2012 Report Share Posted August 16, 2012 Trust me Trolls and Spammers stay around for as long as they can, albeit some of them may get bored, they will still continue to thrive and still give enough to get YCMaker a healthy profit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mehmani Posted August 16, 2012 Report Share Posted August 16, 2012 That may depend on exactly how extreme his apathy is, Botvinnik. If it is so much he's only willing to revive himself, would he pay attention to the moderators going on strike when some areas already maintain a degree of control without them? Trust me Trolls and Spammers stay around for as long as they can, albeit some of them may get bored, they will still continue to thrive and still give enough to get YCMaker a healthy profit. I don't think YCMaker wants this place to be a hell-hole. And if we really do need to get his attention, then just unban this site's Hall of Shame (OMGAKITTY et al.) or post an advertisement on /b/. His apathy really isn't that extreme. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Yuzuru Otonashi Posted August 16, 2012 Report Share Posted August 16, 2012 Lemme spell it out for you: We have 80-100 members online. We have 679 guests online last time I checked. Guests that come on, use the card maker, etc. Most of the active members don't even USE the card maker much/at all. Plus, we're already logged in, so we don't see the front page ads. So, members don't actually generate him any revenue. The guests who come to the site and use the card maker do. Yes, emmbers that use it generate revenue, but that's about 1/7th of the guests. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tormented Posted August 16, 2012 Report Share Posted August 16, 2012 Even if he didn't he would probably just do the same as he did this week. Come back, fix the problem, then do nothing else. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tourmaline Posted August 16, 2012 Report Share Posted August 16, 2012 What I intended to say was that if our competent members began leaving, the rest would find YCM lacking a purpose and, considering the social nature a forum has, the members willing to remain will deteriorate in quantity. Assuming we're pessimistic enough to assume trolls and spammers would wander to YCM, trolls would find no point where there is nobody and spammers wouldn't remain too long. The forum would inevitably meet a premature death, appearing more of a melancholic, desolate wasteland I'd visit a year after to wallow in nostalgia. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tormented Posted August 16, 2012 Report Share Posted August 16, 2012 Fak double post, umm, sorry :/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Izaya Orihara Posted August 16, 2012 Report Share Posted August 16, 2012 Everybody emmigrate to CGC -Shot- That was a joke. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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