Premier Alexander Romanov Posted August 30, 2012 Report Share Posted August 30, 2012 As this format draws to a close, let us take a moment to look back and analyze why the metagame is so screwed up. The banlist seems to have helped, but most of the top-tier decks still revolve around 1-2 specific cards. Why have these poorly-designed decks become so popular and are so effective, how can the decks be countered, and how is this new format shaping up? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
byak Posted August 30, 2012 Report Share Posted August 30, 2012 Wind-Ups are the best deck because who gives a f*** about only one zenmaity Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premier Alexander Romanov Posted August 30, 2012 Author Report Share Posted August 30, 2012 [quote name='βyakk' timestamp='1346293776' post='6015758'] Wind-Ups are the best deck because who gives a f*** about only one zenmaity [/quote] Well...that was enlightening... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Azuh Posted August 30, 2012 Report Share Posted August 30, 2012 Crystal Beasts are still the best deck cause who gives a f*** about running no Rainbow Dragon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miror B Posted August 30, 2012 Report Share Posted August 30, 2012 [quote name='Azuh' timestamp='1346294390' post='6015767'] Crystal Beasts are still the best deck cause who gives a f*** about running no Rainbow Dragon [/quote] Fun story a guy won at table 3 at my lolcals by dropping Rainbow Dragon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DARKPLANT RISING Posted August 30, 2012 Report Share Posted August 30, 2012 [quote name='Azuh' timestamp='1346294390' post='6015767'] Crystal Beasts are still the best deck cause who gives a f*** about running no Rainbow Dragon [/quote] Or Rainbow Ruins Or Abundance Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NeoRWBY65 Posted August 30, 2012 Report Share Posted August 30, 2012 It seems Dark Worlds and Six Samurais are going to dominate come September, with a few others joining them that I can't remember the names of. Inzektors and all dragon decks were hit with the new list. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sleepy Posted August 30, 2012 Report Share Posted August 30, 2012 [insert Deck theme of your choice here] is the best Deck because [insert phrase of your choice here]. ^seems legit. I don't care if people dislike not knowing exactly what to put in the Extra Deck as a consequence, I still want to see many already existing Decks be able to have a chance on relatively equal footing. If something is badly designed enough that it needs to have a specific side Decked counter, or else a Deck will die against it by default, that is a problem on itself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sunshine Jesse Posted August 30, 2012 Report Share Posted August 30, 2012 [quote name='βyakk' timestamp='1346293776' post='6015758'] Wind-Ups are the best deck [/quote] That's what everyone said last format too and we all see how that ended Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
byak Posted August 30, 2012 Report Share Posted August 30, 2012 with them winning yes i know Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ihop Posted August 30, 2012 Report Share Posted August 30, 2012 Chaos Dragons still seem kinda good, and hopefully some of the new Decks coming out will add something to the format as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toffee. Posted August 30, 2012 Report Share Posted August 30, 2012 [quote name='Kabasaurus' timestamp='1346297380' post='6015801'] Chaos Dragons still seem kinda good, and hopefully some of the new Decks coming out will add something to the format as well. [/quote] You forgot an obligatory: "Chaos Dragons are the best deck because who gives a f*** about playing something other then Future Fusion" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premier Alexander Romanov Posted August 30, 2012 Author Report Share Posted August 30, 2012 Seriously, guys, can we focus on the original question instead of stating decks are good because they can be? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Synchronized Posted August 30, 2012 Report Share Posted August 30, 2012 Why does everyone think Six Samurais are going to be any better this format? They're not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wildflame Posted August 30, 2012 Report Share Posted August 30, 2012 I believe September 2012 will have a very decent meta, mind you. Mainly because Inzektors and Chaos Dragons got hit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zeppeli Gyro Supreme Posted August 30, 2012 Report Share Posted August 30, 2012 I haven't seen many Inzektors, but Junk Doppel and Dark World seem very popular lately, and they aren't bad. People are playing a lot of them, so my guess is they will be common. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premier Alexander Romanov Posted August 30, 2012 Author Report Share Posted August 30, 2012 But why did all of these terribad decks like Inzektors and Wind-Ups come into existence? If everyone hates them, why are they so popular to use? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sleepy Posted August 30, 2012 Report Share Posted August 30, 2012 The decks themselves are not hated as a whole. Only the loop is hated on Wind-ups, and only Hornet + Dragon Fly + Centipede is bs for Inzektors. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
evilfusion Posted August 30, 2012 Report Share Posted August 30, 2012 [quote name='TheFinalFan' timestamp='1346301345' post='6015823'] But why did all of these terribad decks like Inzektors and Wind-Ups come into existence? If everyone hates them, why are they so popular to use? [/quote] Because they win. No, seriously, that's the answer: They win. And people like to win. The reason they win (Inzektors at least) is because they constantly put pressure on the opponent without devoting too many of their own resources, since Hornet can be re-used from the Grave several times, destroying opposing cards with ease just because you have a specific card in the Grave. This is similar to why Grapha is so good in Dark Worlds. It furthers the Deck goal while maintaining a constant presence and threat level. Grapha loses effectiveness only when there is something with more ATK on the Field opposing it, and the DW player doesnt have any methods at that moment to deal with a 3000+ monster. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premier Alexander Romanov Posted August 30, 2012 Author Report Share Posted August 30, 2012 [quote name='evilfusion' timestamp='1346302708' post='6015832'] Because they win. No, seriously, that's the answer: They win. And people like to win. [/quote] And that's something I never understood about human nature. The only reason anyone would like Inzektors is because of their success. Anyone who has dueled against Inzektors knows they are broken, yet those same people probably have their own Inzektor Deck on DN, because of its success rate. The same goes with Wind-Ups, at least last format. What would happen if people just used cards they liked, like in the anime/manga, instead of cards they know would net them easy victories? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mido9 Posted August 30, 2012 Report Share Posted August 30, 2012 [quote name='Sleepy' timestamp='1346302571' post='6015831'] The decks themselves are not hated as a whole. Only the loop is hated on Wind-ups, and only Hornet + Dragon Fly + Centipede is bs for Inzektors. [/quote] There's also that OTK for wind ups. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bringerofcake Posted August 30, 2012 Report Share Posted August 30, 2012 [quote name='TheFinalFan' timestamp='1346303802' post='6015838'] What would happen if people just used cards they liked, like in the anime/manga, instead of cards they know would net them easy victories? [/quote] What would happen is that more people would either enjoy losing with their favorite cards (unlikely) or they would become discouraged because they lose with their favorite cards. Since Konami made some cards objectively better than others, (and assuming your question addresses the current cardpool) there would be a select few players beating the everloving crap out of all of the others, because they like the cards that happen to win. As for the meta itself, what is there to discuss? I feel like this is one of the worst formats I've been in, and I've been in the game since the beginning. It felt dull. Septemer, IMO, will make for a much more diverse and interesting format with the re-introduction of Synchro builds and Agents into the game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Azuh Posted August 30, 2012 Report Share Posted August 30, 2012 [quote name='Bringer☆de Cake' timestamp='1346306981' post='6015854'] Since Konami made some cards objectively better than others, (and assuming your question addresses the current cardpool) there would be a select few players beating the everloving crap out of all of the others, because they like the cards that happen to win. [/quote] [img]http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_9t9_dQmtEhc/TQuJZGU8AiI/AAAAAAAAABA/LD68cGdTyoc/s1600/Kaiba%2Blaughing.jpg[/img] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RyanAtlus Posted August 30, 2012 Report Share Posted August 30, 2012 DW, Hero are barely touched. Windup Xyz spam is still fcking consistent. Laval will be pooping all over everything when they get new support (and Quasar). Agents might see play. Six Sam and Gadgets are rogue. And people who run Geargia should go die in a hole anyways. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Master of Sabers Posted August 30, 2012 Report Share Posted August 30, 2012 Why should Geargia go die in a hole? They're not that big a problem. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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