May now be locked - The Original Chance Format

[D.A._Sakuyamon]

 

This was the version I used. The only things I saw that weren't workinig as much as I thought were the Dualities, Avarice, and the teched Bearman with Coach King. Other than that, everything worked wonders....except when misplays occur >_<

 

BTW, what's the last trap card?

Its Void Trap Hole.

[Bringerofcake]

 

Perfectly suited to Chance Format, and a decent replacement for bottomless.

[Cute Rotten Yoshika]

since i have just been knocked out of DA's tourney and some people seemed interested, introducing stun gusto, modified for chance format:

 

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some notes:

1) chance format makes it far less consistent since i lose out on PoD (warning is pretty vital to the deck so i would rather not ditch it). 1DoP is not good enough for drawing needs. i need to find another card.

2) cursed seal has been useless. will probably switch it for imperial iron wall since banishing hurts this deck badly.

3) singular night beam is because 3 s/t destruction works best unless im facing a deck that absolutely uses a whole bunch of continuous cards that i need to blow up (macro mostly but prohibition hurts too).

4) will likely stick a third skill drain in side to swap out the third necrovalley for. for certain decks i get creamed without it and two isnt always consistent enough.

 

expect to likely see an improved form of it come chance tourney 6! unless i pick something else haha.

[Strider Tigerwolf]

Okay! Seeing as the Tournament is coming to a close, I've decided to begin work on the Chance Format Ban Lists. Here is what I've seen:

 

Machinas:

• Machina Fortress - 2500 ATK Beater, heavy boss monster that is searchable and the -1/-0 is most of the time disregarded due to the fact that Gadgets, Machina Gearframe, and Gear Gigant X restore your hand. Teching a few Genex Birdmans and Neutrons also reduces this even further. Possible hit? Power/Special Semi-Limit.

Karakuri:

• Karakuri Shogun mdl 00 "Burei" - Despite battle restriction, it fuels for other game plays as well and combos too well with Geargias, Machinas, Gadgets, and Karakuries in themselves. It's a +0 for a relatively easy play, and controls too much. Possible hit? Power Semi-Limit.

Geargia:

• Geargiarmor - You guys know what it does, and it does it a little too well...Special Semi-Limit.

Fire Fist:

• Fire Formation - Tenki - I really don't like doing this to one of my favorite archtypes, but Tenki is just too powerful, Power Semi-Limit.

Spellbook/Prophecy:

• Spellbook of Secrets - The card that makes it happen. Add any "Spellbook" card can be quite troublesome. Power Semi-Limit.
• Spellbook of the Master - The partner in crime.Special Semi-Limit.

Madolches:

• Madolche Queen Tiaramisu - Given how the format promotes slower play, this is just an unfair card with too much support. Power Semi-Limit.

Mermails:

• Mermail Abyssmegalo - This card is just...heavy. It brings about many set-ups with just 2 or more Atlantean monsters and that's just not fair. Power Semi-Limit.

Atlanteans:

• Atlantean Dragoons - You guys know what this does, and it does it too well. And we now have Abyssteus, so the following would be nice. Power Limit.

 

Lightsworns:

• Lumina, Lightsworn Summoner - I would like this to be moved down from the list to Special Semi-Limited.

Agents:

• The Agent of Mysteries - Earth - Also would like to move this down from the list to  Special Semi-Limited.

T.G.:

• T.G. Hyper Libarian - Given how synchros aren't doing anything, let's try and bring a few back by putting this in as a Special Limit.

Infernities:

• Infernity Launcher - The deck is highly incosistent, and I've only seen remnants of it. Why not putting this as a Special Limit?

HEROes:

• E - Emergency Call - You guys can have this to Special Semi-Limited.
• A Hero Lives - And another gift for you guys to Special Semi-Limited.

Hieratics:

• Hieratic Seal of Convocation - We saw them play. They could use some aid. How about this to Special Semi-Limited.

Other Cards:

• Pot of Duality - A consistency card that should be dumped down to Special Semi-Limited.
• Lonefire Blossom - Plants do nothing, and this as a Special Limit could bring them back?
• Advanced Ritual Art - Herald does nothing....yet? Special Limit.
• Ceasefire - This card hasn't even been seen. Special Limit.
• Blackwing - Kalut the Moon Shadow - Let's bring Blackwings some power back. Special Semi-Limit.
• Pot of Avarice - Another hit to several decks that overextend or use too much. Power Limit.
• Debris Dragon - Let's bring this to Special Semi-Limit to see what it can do.
   

 

Cards that did not see the ban list (in my eyes) for the following reasons:

 

Machinas:

• Machina Gearframe - It's the consistency card. I don't want to kill off Machina's consistency, but I would like to kill their power and control aspects instead, hence the hit on Fortress. They are a viable deck that deserves a hit, but not to the point of killing it.

Fire Fist:

• Brotherhood of the Fire Fist - Chicken - With Tenki hit the whole deck becomes a bit less consistent. Also, Chicken aids in their consistency the same way Machina Gearframe aids Machinas.

Spellbook/Prophecy:

• Spellbook Magician of Prophecy - Same as above, even with the fact that they still have 8-10 searchers.

Madolches:

• Madolche Ticket - An unfair card....still debating whether or not to hit this.
• Madolche Chateau - The field that makes Madolches +s when destroyed. Also debating whether to hit this or not.
• Madolche Magileine - Their most consistent monster...but it speaks of Stratos in several ways since it can search itself. However, I'd rather not hit this....\

Mermails:

• Mermail Abysslinde - She's the "oil" that keeps them going, and honestly should be hit...but a hit on Megalo tells me it's good enough given how I'm also hitting their Atlantean aid.
• Abyss-Sphere - Also part of the "oil" that makes Linde even more useful. But Dragoons and Megalo seem to be the biggest issues.

Dark World:

• Grapha, Dragon Lord of Dark World - With the format as it is, as issue-going as Grapha's design seems, the entire deck seems to have been battered severely as most of their cards have been "semi-limited" through the rules, and it seems that the deck has it hard as is. It doesn't even need a hit in this format.
• Snoww, Unlight of Dark World - Same reasoning as above + Machina Gearframe argument.

 

So yeah, let's start discussing the ban list! :D

[Love of Ghibli]

So hit the atlantean, geargia, Fire Fist, and both main spellbook searchers but leave the dark world one alone?

 

 

Hit Dark world please 

[Strider Tigerwolf]

It's not the official hits :o They're just the hits from the host. Post your own list as well :3

[Love of Ghibli]

Mine is simple because I have been out of CF for a while. 

 

Atlanteans:

Dragoon = Ban (Undine still exist they'll be fine)

 

Dark World:

 

Snow = Special Semi Limit (Because I want Earth to get the same treatment)

Grapha = Special Limit (perpetual reviving boss monster must die)

 

Machinas:

 

Fortress: Special Semi Limit (Boss monsters that can revive themselves are a problem)

 

Things I don't see needing to be hit are: Prophecies, Maldoches, and other archetypes that are consistent but just don't win.

Most other stuff I agree with. Give me my Earth back and you can limit everything else. 

Just realized though, Suppressor Dragons are going to derp Chance format lol.

[Strider Tigerwolf]

The top decks in Chance Format don't exactly reflect from the actual meta :o

 

Dark Worlds see play because of their 3 of this, this, this, and this (Grapha, Gate, Snoww, Broww). Having 2 of all but 1 of these has all but killed the deck, which is why I said it doesn't need any hits.

 

Machinas (already explained). The difference between Fortress and Grapha is that Grapha while taking only a Normal Summon/Special Summon to constantly bring out, Fortress has too much support in the form of fueled searches. Machina Gearframe, Genex Neutron, Gadgets, Geargiarmor. I don't want to kill off the deck, but again, I wanted to make it more frail. As such, putting Machina Fortress on the list as well as Geargiarmor hinders the deck whilst not killing it.

 

Atlantean Dragoons - Should die in the actual format, is still powerful here and as such a Limit is probably best.

 

Also, top 3 Decks currently in the Chance Format Tourny are:

Madolches

Spellbook/Prophecy

Machina Gadget feat. Genex

 

So....

[D.A._Sakuyamon]

TBH here's how I see it.

 

There are a few reasons I don't like the whole ban limiting things.

 

It makes us have to duel in places that we generally should have to duel in. I.E. Banned/Unlimited.

 

Another thing is, wait just a little longer and an updated list will come.

 

With that being said there is something I would hit that is highly likely of getting hit in September.

 

Divine Judgement of the Spellbooks

 either to Bannaded or limited.

 

I might not be great at the game but even I know that this card is borked.

 

EDIT: Messed up the name a little, fixed

[Aerion Brightflame]

I've said it once, I'll say it again. Kill the Chicken.

 

I don't mind Tenki only being at 2, if the Chicken can burn alive.

 

With the appearance of Cardinal soon, spell Recycling is a thing now, hence the one not mattering as much as I'd like it to.

 

But then again, that's my hatred for the chicken showing.

 

Also Atum to 1 pwease :3 Even I admit, it's a borked thing in this.

[Strider Tigerwolf]

Okay, so far the list looks something like this:

 

Banned:

Divine Judgment of the Spellbooks

Brotherhood of the fire Fist - Chicken (or unlimited)

 

Power Limited:

Atlantean Dragoons (or Banned)

Pot of Avarice

 

Special Limited:

T.G. Hyper Librarian

Infernity Launcher

Lonefire Blossom

Advance Ritual Art

Ceasefire

Grapha, Dragon Lord of Dark World (or Unlimited)

Hieratic Dragon King of Atum (or Power Limited)

 

Power Semi-Limited:

Machina Fortress (or Special Semi-Limited)

Karakuri Shogun mdl 00 "Burei"

Fire Formation - Tenki

Spellbook of Secrets

Madolche Tiaramisu

Mermail Abyssmegalo

 

Special Semi-Limited:

Geargiarmor

Spellbook of the Master

Lumina, Lightsworn Summoner

The Agent of Mysteries - Earth

E - Emergency Call

A Hero Lives

Hieratic Seal of Convocation

Pot of Duality

Blackwing - Kalut the Moon Shadow

Debris Dragon

Snoww, Unlight of Darkworld (or Unlimited)

 

@D.A. - That's why we can't move things such as Bestiari to 2 and such. Guys, make sure to remember we can't affect the Ban List entirely like that, such as bringing back Giant Trunade or putting Spore to 3.

[D.A._Sakuyamon]

Dark Worlds as is don't need any hits. Chance you'v already summed up what I would say about them.

 

As for those that think they should be hit, make one around this format and see how it does with the (non-direct) hits they'v taken. That's all I can really say in regards to that.

[Strider Tigerwolf]

@D.A. - The issue, is that, this is still a whole consensus. I'm not the supreme overlord of the format. I'm just the originator. As such, I want a general consensus on what should and should not be banned.

[D.A._Sakuyamon]

@D.A. - The issue, is that, this is still a whole consensus. I'm not the supreme overlord of the format. I'm just the originator. As such, I want a general consensus on what should and should not be banned.

Please bare in mind that refering to what you said about them as a means to direct on how I feel about them. I wasn't saying that you were the all powerful guy..

[Strider Tigerwolf]

I share the same feelings though. Dark Worlds should be left untouched.

[Zeppeli Gyro Supreme]

Why don't we just wait until the new ban list comes out before saying anything?

[Strider Tigerwolf]

We most likely are, but a preparation doesn't seem too bad either :o

[D.A._Sakuyamon]

So, with the supposed current updated Ban list what do you think? Warning is dead. There would be almost no point to play it unless it was in the opposite list to judgement. One Day of Peace is dead. The potential it had in this format is pretty much gone now.

[Strider Tigerwolf]

Warning has to go into the Special Limited. It's biggest power was when it was @2, so putting it into Special 1 seems fair. Same to One Day.

 

I do enjoy the fact that Kalut can be @3 as well as Lumina. While not really meta worthy (they do stuff, but come on), they can really become a fairly competitive deck in Chance Format.

[D.A._Sakuyamon]

Warning has to go into the Special Limited. It's biggest power was when it was @2, so putting it into Special 1 seems fair. Same to One Day.

 

I do enjoy the fact that Kalut can be @3 as well as Lumina. While not really meta worthy (they do stuff, but come on), they can really become a fairly competitive deck in Chance Format.

What are your thoughts of 6sams getting 3rd signal in this "format". Personally that insane, who cares about Shien when you can play 3 Signals & a Gateway among other things.

[Strider Tigerwolf]

Gateway is bad, but...I have to be honest. Playing 2 Smoke Signals, a few kizans and other stuff while being limited on numbers actually still tames the deck...although tests should be made.

[Zeppeli Gyro Supreme]

Six Spams will always be Six Spams, even in this format. Unless Shien and Gateway take up the same slot... but even then, they're still Six Spams.

[Strider Tigerwolf]

Thank Kizan and Gateway together. However, Gateway "could" get banned in this format :o

[D.A._Sakuyamon]

I dont want to see Gateway banned.

 

Anyways, I think we should have a restriction on when things go on the list. Basically, I think we should only hit things right after the advanced format banned lists gets updated.

 

Basically the way I see it, if we updated the list every time a tourny ended we'd eventually see a massive cluster fuck of cards on it. I don't think that would be fun for anyone. 

 

Just my thoughts.

[Strider Tigerwolf]

With an update on the Ban List, here's so far the following:

OCG Ban List in Bold

Still up for questions in Italics+Underlined

Banned:

Sangan

Wind-Up Carrier Zenmaity
Divine Judgment of the Spellbooks
Brotherhood of the fire Fist - Chicken (or unlimited)
 
Power Limited:
Atlantean Dragoons (or Banned)
Pot of Avarice
 
Special Limited:

Wind-Up Magician

One Day of Peace

Solemn Warning

T.G. Hyper Librarian
Infernity Launcher
Lonefire Blossom
Ceasefire
Grapha, Dragon Lord of Dark World (or Unlimited)
Hieratic Dragon King of Atum (or Power Limited)
 
Power Semi-Limited:
Machina Fortress (or Special Semi-Limited)
Karakuri Shogun mdl 00 "Burei"
Fire Formation - Tenki
Spellbook of Secrets
Madolche Tiaramisu
Mermail Abyssmegalo
 
Special Semi-Limited:

Advanced Ritual Art

Tsukuyomi

Thunder King Rai-Oh

Geargiarmor
Spellbook of the Master
The Agent of Mysteries - Earth
E - Emergency Call
A Hero Lives
Hieratic Seal of Convocation
Pot of Duality
Debris Dragon
Snoww, Unlight of Darkworld (or Unlimited)

 

Newly Unlimited:

Lumina, Lightsworn Summoner

Blackwing - Kalut the Moon Shadow

Shien's Smoke Signal

Spore

Mind Crush

 

Personally, I like the list, except for Chicken and the Dark Worlds. Those shouldn't be in those positions.