Agro Posted February 11, 2013 Report Share Posted February 11, 2013 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sora1499 Posted February 11, 2013 Report Share Posted February 11, 2013 Put it to 3 for all I care. Lance outclasses it in most purposes nowadays anyways. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Strider Tigerwolf Posted February 11, 2013 Report Share Posted February 11, 2013 Wrongfully at 1, should at least be @2 if not 3. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jace Beleren Posted February 11, 2013 Report Share Posted February 11, 2013 Wrongfully at 1, should at least be @2 if not 3. This ^^^^^^^^ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
newhat Posted February 11, 2013 Report Share Posted February 11, 2013 This card is a Swiss army knife against attacks, Xyz, Synchro and Monster Effects and puts monsters in a more vulnerable Battle Position. I think it's extremely powerful. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ihop Posted February 11, 2013 Report Share Posted February 11, 2013 Should never have been at 1 anyway, it's really balanced. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Not-so-Radiant Arin Posted February 11, 2013 Report Share Posted February 11, 2013 Why IS this @1? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wildflame Posted February 11, 2013 Report Share Posted February 11, 2013 I don't think this going up would have any impact on the meta but OH BOY, Empty Jar would love it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Strider Tigerwolf Posted February 11, 2013 Report Share Posted February 11, 2013 I don't think this going up would have any impact on the meta but OH BOY, Empty Jar would love it. Empty Jar should rot in the pits of hell for punishing a good card... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toffee. Posted February 12, 2013 Report Share Posted February 12, 2013 This card is a Swiss army knife against attacks, Xyz, Synchro and Monster Effects and puts monsters in a more vulnerable Battle Position. I think it's extremely powerful.Setting an Xyz doesn't detach its materials(Assuming, that's what your thinking).Synchros can be interrupted, just cuz' Tuners. But that's their fault for not anticipating it.Effect monsters; It depends on what you use it on(Inzektors, for example, would get stompped by it. But something like Tour Guide hardly would).But aside from that, its just a weird Lance that can also let you run over monsters. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cute Rotten Yoshika Posted February 12, 2013 Report Share Posted February 12, 2013 Setting an Xyz doesn't detach its materials(Assuming, that's what your thinking). Synchros can be interrupted, just cuz' Tuners. But that's their fault for not anticipating it. Effect monsters; It depends on what you use it on(Inzektors, for example, would get stompped by it. But something like Tour Guide hardly would). But aside from that, its just a weird Lance that can also let you run over monsters. the reason why setting works well on xyz monsters is because cards like maestroke and zenmaines cant save themselves from destruction when facedown. thats all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toffee. Posted February 12, 2013 Report Share Posted February 12, 2013 the reason why setting works well on xyz monsters is because cards like maestroke and zenmaines cant save themselves from destruction when facedown. thats all.Meh, fair enough. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheKaitoKid Posted February 12, 2013 Report Share Posted February 12, 2013 It stops Xyz's from being made if properly timed. I think that's where Newhat was thinking of. I don't think it's that comparable to lance. Both serve different purposes which happen to overlap in a few places. Could easily be put at 2. Funniest play is resetting a Snowman or Ryko that's being attacked after having already been flipped. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Azuh Posted February 12, 2013 Report Share Posted February 12, 2013 I'll much rather this be at 3 than Lance. Lance can go die for all I care Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cute Rotten Yoshika Posted February 12, 2013 Report Share Posted February 12, 2013 shhhhhhhhhhhhhh. neither lance or this are problem cards. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Not-so-Radiant Arin Posted February 12, 2013 Report Share Posted February 12, 2013 Saying Lance is a problem card is like saying Despair from the Dark is a problem card. (And yes, people have actually said Despair is broken.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mido9 Posted February 12, 2013 Report Share Posted February 12, 2013 Saying Lance is a problem card is like saying Despair from the Dark is a problem card. what does this even mean Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Not-so-Radiant Arin Posted February 12, 2013 Report Share Posted February 12, 2013 what does this even mean It means that Lance is no more of a threat than any other card on here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Strider Tigerwolf Posted February 12, 2013 Report Share Posted February 12, 2013 Lance does NOT deserve to die. And BoM does NOT deserve a position in the Ban List. So when are we going to ban Empty Jar materials? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jabber2033 Posted February 12, 2013 Report Share Posted February 12, 2013 I, for one, would love to see this at 3. But empty jar will be a nuisence. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sleepy Posted February 12, 2013 Report Share Posted February 12, 2013 Put it to 3 for all I care. Lance outclasses it in most purposes nowadays anyways. Well, it has a few twists. Book stops Synchros and Xyzs from happening, cancels monsters' attacks, gets rid of self-protecting and continuous effects that might bother you, makes nomis cry when they realize they cannot be Flip Summoned, reuses Flip effects, saves your monsters from targets like D. Prison and cards like Mirror Force, laughs at Trap-hate measures, eliminates equips, and who knows what other things. Lance is a pretty good card, too, but I think there are many uses mentioned there that Lance cannot do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cute Rotten Yoshika Posted February 13, 2013 Report Share Posted February 13, 2013 all monsters can be flip summoned (unless theres some oddball monster that specifically says it cant be.) this is normally irrelevant for nomis because they cant be set, but if theyre set by effects like book of moon they can flip summon just fine. it is not a normal or special summon and does not follow the rules for either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheTurtleOnceCalledGod Posted February 13, 2013 Report Share Posted February 13, 2013 This should be at 3, Lance should be reprinted again for laughs, perhaps in the next structure deck after Fire. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
newhat Posted February 13, 2013 Report Share Posted February 13, 2013 all monsters can be flip summoned (unless theres some oddball monster that specifically says it cant be.) this is normally irrelevant for nomis because they cant be set, but if theyre set by effects like book of moon they can flip summon just fine. it is not a normal or special summon and does not follow the rules for either. A monster can be Flip Summoned if, this turn, it has not 1) been Summoned 2) declared an attack 3) changed its Battle Position because a Flip Summon is basically a change in Battle Position. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shradow Posted February 13, 2013 Report Share Posted February 13, 2013 makes nomis cry when they realize they cannot be Flip Summoned Holy crap how have I never realized this before. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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