PrimeAceJohn Posted April 20, 2013 Report Share Posted April 20, 2013 Either player can pay 800 Life Points to negate the Special Summon of a monster(s), and/or an effect that Special Summons a monster(s), and destroy those cards. I do really like the card in which case it locks down Elemental Dragons. I know there are other cards like Ophion that can already do this, but this gives you a better ease with any deck. After thinking about it, I realized it should be brought back but at 1. Tell me what you think. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alice Moonflowyr Posted April 20, 2013 Report Share Posted April 20, 2013 Correct me if I'm wrong, but couldnt Edrags spam the hell out of this too? From what I've heard, if they have this back, they can just spam their shit and then flip this for game :I Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jord200 Posted April 20, 2013 Report Share Posted April 20, 2013 1. Name needs to be in title. 2. I would actually rather have Elemental Dragons than this, to be honest. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Northern Sage Posted April 20, 2013 Report Share Posted April 20, 2013 Dumbest control card in existence. No thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Resident Fascist Posted April 20, 2013 Report Share Posted April 20, 2013 1. Card name in the title. 2. Please realise that you can spam the field full of everything ever and then just set Oppression and say GGNORE. Please also realise this is generic and extremely easy to play. Simply put, Oppression is a stupid card. No. Banned for good reason. If you want an Elemental Dragon out, you can play Ophion, Fossil Dyna or something like Gozen Match. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bringerofcake Posted April 20, 2013 Report Share Posted April 20, 2013 Well, it's a good card for stopping a TON of decks that spam Special Summon monsters (i.e. every deck), the problem is that those same decks can utilize them to shut down other decks, making their victory absolute and impossible to come back from. In short, stay banned pls EDIT: I should also mention that if it had this clause, it would be fine: "You cannot control any Special Summoned monsters to activate or resolve this effect." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A Hollow Man Posted April 20, 2013 Report Share Posted April 20, 2013 It would be interesting if it had a "you can only activate this during your Standby Phase" clause, so that if you wanted to swarm during your Main Phase 1 you couldn't use this during your opponent's next turn. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sora1499 Posted April 20, 2013 Report Share Posted April 20, 2013 It shouldn't be brought back because of SPAM SPAM SPAM flip oppression, gg. You could argue that those spam decks should be hit a la superdoopertrooper, but that doesn't change the fact that this card is the epitome of a slippery slope and overall awful design. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
swag swag swag swag swag s Posted April 20, 2013 Report Share Posted April 20, 2013 Use Dragossack 2 Tokens Use Oppression Next turn, if your Tokens survive, Summon a LaDD GGNORE. E-Dragons can abuse this too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sora1499 Posted April 20, 2013 Report Share Posted April 20, 2013 Use Dragossack 2 Tokens Use Oppression Next turn, if your Tokens survive, Summon a LaDD GGNORE. E-Dragons can abuse this too. That's a good point actually, although I think that LADD would negate oppression anyways (correct me if I'm wrong). But yeah, EDragons are a really spammy deck that would probably benefit from using this at least somewhat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toffee. Posted April 20, 2013 Report Share Posted April 20, 2013 just spam their shit and then flip this for game :IWhich is the exact reason why this ended up on the list.The card was fine, at first, since it was only played in anti-meta decks.Then people decided to maindeck this in everything; Do their field-spam move and flip this as the last move -> GgThus, this card ended up@0 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Astolfo Posted April 20, 2013 Report Share Posted April 20, 2013 If an effect that made you take 5000 damage (IDK. Something decently big) if you have more than (?) 2 SS'd monsters when you used this, would it help? I'm sorry if I'm dumb right now. I haven't played in a while so I'm not sure of current meta and such. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
swag swag swag swag swag s Posted April 20, 2013 Report Share Posted April 20, 2013 That's a good point actually, although I think that LADD would negate oppression anyways (correct me if I'm wrong). But yeah, EDragons are a really spammy deck that would probably benefit from using this at least somewhat. "When a Spell or Trap Card is activated, or the effect of an Effect Monster is activated, that activation is negated." So it isn't negated by LaDD Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blake Posted April 20, 2013 Report Share Posted April 20, 2013 It's the same thing as Shock Master. You are not activating the physical card, so Royal Oppression gives no fucks that there's a dragon that stops CARDS from being activated. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
玄魔の王 Posted April 20, 2013 Report Share Posted April 20, 2013 You could argue that those spam decks should be hit a la superdoopertrooper, but that doesn't change the fact that this card is the epitome of a slippery slope and overall awful design. I really don't need to say anything now, because you pretty much said it all. This thing was abused to Jigoku and back, it would be again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sora1499 Posted April 20, 2013 Report Share Posted April 20, 2013 I really don't need to say anything now, because you pretty much said it all. This thing was abused to Jigoku and back, it would be again. I remember the first time I ever saw this. I was playing the 2009 video game and I was against that weird announcer dude who used an immortal bushin deck, and he flipped this, and I was like "What the fuck is this?! This shit is broken!". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-Berserker- Posted April 20, 2013 Report Share Posted April 20, 2013 Best move is negating the summon of your own Lava Golem. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Synchronized Posted April 20, 2013 Report Share Posted April 20, 2013 No. Ask the Blackwing format how well the "counter to SS-heavy Decks" worked out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miror B Posted April 20, 2013 Report Share Posted April 20, 2013 No. Ask the Blackwing format how well the "counter to SS-heavy Decks" worked out. I feel bad because I remember asking "Why the fuck would I run a SS counter in my SS deck?" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PrimeAceJohn Posted April 20, 2013 Author Report Share Posted April 20, 2013 Sorry for the late reply. I left this on while I was doing something else and forgot all about this. Title will be changed after this reply. So I'm a little confused, how does this card Spam? I only see it as "Neither player can Special Summon monsters." I know that destroying the SSed E Dragon wouldn't be so great when they can still Special Summon another from your hand by banishing the destroyed E Dragon; but can't you just negate that summon again? It also negates your opponent from summoning Xyz or Synchs so I can knid of see how it was banned. Someone please explain. Sorry for being dumb. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Resident Fascist Posted April 20, 2013 Report Share Posted April 20, 2013 Sorry for the late reply. I left this on while I was doing something else and forgot all about this. Title will be changed after this reply. So I'm a little confused, how does this card Spam? I only see it as "Neither player can Special Summon monsters." I know that destroying the SSed E Dragon wouldn't be so great when they can still Special Summon another from your hand by banishing the destroyed E Dragon; but can't you just negate that summon again? It also negates your opponent from summoning Xyz or Synchs so I can knid of see how it was banned. Someone please explain. Sorry for being dumb. You spam and then set it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AGATHODAIMON BANGTAIL COW Posted April 20, 2013 Report Share Posted April 20, 2013 You can play normally without this card, then activate it to give yourself a wave of monsters that can't be shut down by it. Ninja'd. Great. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sora1499 Posted April 20, 2013 Report Share Posted April 20, 2013 Sorry for the late reply. I left this on while I was doing something else and forgot all about this. Title will be changed after this reply. So I'm a little confused, how does this card Spam? I only see it as "Neither player can Special Summon monsters." I know that destroying the SSed E Dragon wouldn't be so great when they can still Special Summon another from your hand by banishing the destroyed E Dragon; but can't you just negate that summon again? It also negates your opponent from summoning Xyz or Synchs so I can knid of see how it was banned. Someone please explain. Sorry for being dumb. This card doesn't spam by its own, of course. But what you do is you play a deck that can spam the field within the lapse of a single turn, like, say, Wind-Ups or Blackwings. You do your spammy loop thing and then, once you've used up your resources and don't need to SS anymore, you flip this. Now your opponent can't make a proper comeback. Edit: Fucking ninjas man. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miror B Posted April 20, 2013 Report Share Posted April 20, 2013 Sorry for the late reply. I left this on while I was doing something else and forgot all about this. Title will be changed after this reply. So I'm a little confused, how does this card Spam? I only see it as "Neither player can Special Summon monsters." I know that destroying the SSed E Dragon wouldn't be so great when they can still Special Summon another from your hand by banishing the destroyed E Dragon; but can't you just negate that summon again? It also negates your opponent from summoning Xyz or Synchs so I can knid of see how it was banned. Someone please explain. Sorry for being dumb. The card itself doesn't spam, you just get your spam done before you flip the card. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PrimeAceJohn Posted April 20, 2013 Author Report Share Posted April 20, 2013 Ohh, I see now. Then never mind what I said. This card should stay banned.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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