Slinky Posted February 21, 2014 Report Share Posted February 21, 2014 -snip- double post. Seriously, why can't we delete our own posts? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daigusto Sphreez Posted February 21, 2014 Report Share Posted February 21, 2014 Searcher? What exactly are you trying to prove. Yes, stratos can be searched for. I never said anything otherwise. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slinky Posted February 21, 2014 Report Share Posted February 21, 2014 What exactly are you trying to prove. Yes, stratos can be searched for. I never said anything otherwise. My point was, Stratos isn't the only searcher. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dog King Posted February 21, 2014 Report Share Posted February 21, 2014 because it's on april 1st when did the banlist become every 3 months in tcg? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slinky Posted February 21, 2014 Report Share Posted February 21, 2014 when did the banlist become every 3 months in tcg? ..Its been that way? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wildflame Posted February 21, 2014 Report Share Posted February 21, 2014 So, you would like a Mermail + Prophecy format? I wouldn't hate that tbh, what are the other options? (Although I think that Prophecy right now is quite overrated) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Althemia Posted February 21, 2014 Report Share Posted February 21, 2014 when did the banlist become every 3 months in tcg?They announced that we're having 4 banlists a year starting from January 2014 so yeah. It's one every 3 months by that. For the OCG, they have 3 banlists a year iirc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dog King Posted February 21, 2014 Report Share Posted February 21, 2014 They announced that we're having 4 banlists a year starting from January 2014 so yeah. It's one every 3 months by that. For the OCG, they have 3 banlists a year iirc. Oh I was pretty sure it was the TCG that had it every 4 months and OCG every 3 months unless they changed this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Althemia Posted February 21, 2014 Report Share Posted February 21, 2014 Oh I was pretty sure it was the TCG that had it every 4 months and OCG every 3 months unless they changed this.You got it the wrong way around. :( Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daigusto Sphreez Posted February 21, 2014 Report Share Posted February 21, 2014 W Nebula Meteorite is an overpowered card, doesn't make Worms Tier 1. By the logic I'm hearing any card that makes a mediocre deck especially good should be banned. But hey, I'm just going to quit while I'm behind. I don't care enough for Heros to argue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blake Posted February 21, 2014 Report Share Posted February 21, 2014 W Nebula Meteorite is an overpowered card, doesn't make Worms Tier 1.By the logic I'm hearing any card that makes a mediocre deck especially good should be banned. But hey, I'm just going to quit while I'm behind. I don't care enough for Heros to argue.W Nebula Meteorite also doesn't make FTKs possible. J/S Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canadian Posted February 21, 2014 Author Report Share Posted February 21, 2014 Stratos doesn't just go in Heroes Fraxure... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wildflame Posted February 21, 2014 Report Share Posted February 21, 2014 Also, Sylvans might become a thing soon, will we see anything here to boost/contain them? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Althemia Posted February 21, 2014 Report Share Posted February 21, 2014 Also, Sylvans might become a thing soon, will we see anything here to boost/contain them?Probably not. Sylvans don't get here until May. The worst possible thing they could is probably put Lonefire to 3... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zauls Posted February 21, 2014 Report Share Posted February 21, 2014 Also, Sylvans might become a thing soon, will we see anything here to boost/contain them? Well Konami tends to try and push new Archetypes so they can sell packs, so bringing Bulb back to 1 isn't unthinkable (for them). I personally think it would be a dreadful idea but hey, its Konami. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canadian Posted February 21, 2014 Author Report Share Posted February 21, 2014 The worst possible thing they could is probably put Lonefire to 3... That is never going to happen regardless. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dog King Posted February 21, 2014 Report Share Posted February 21, 2014 The problem is that if Elemental Hero Stratos comes back to 1, it pretty much comes back to 5 at the same time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Althemia Posted February 21, 2014 Report Share Posted February 21, 2014 That is never going to happen regardless.I know, but still. Such a scary thought to just think about. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zauls Posted February 21, 2014 Report Share Posted February 21, 2014 Are people still discussing Stratos? Really? If Stratos comes back then they have to immediately put E-Call, A Hero Lives, Malicious and possibly D-Draw on the list, which is too much just for one card. It should stay where it is forever, end of. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daigusto Sphreez Posted February 21, 2014 Report Share Posted February 21, 2014 Stratos doesn't just go in Heroes Fraxure... He is probably most usable to his full potential in Heros though. Aside from that, I'd quite like rekindling to not be banned, maybe semi-limited but not beyond that. It wouldn't just damage an archetype, it would hurt practically every fire-deck in existence. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zauls Posted February 21, 2014 Report Share Posted February 21, 2014 He is probably most usable to his full potential in Heros though. Aside from that, I'd quite like rekindling to not be banned, maybe semi-limited but not beyond that. It wouldn't just damage an archetype, it would hurt practically every fire-deck in existence. Rekindling should be banned. Mass summoning is always degenerate and it actually has a strong influence in the meta now. If those decks only exist because of Rekindling, then they shouldn't exist at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daigusto Sphreez Posted February 21, 2014 Report Share Posted February 21, 2014 You are hypothesizing that it will be banned though, right? Although the card doesn't promote player interaction or a great deal of fairness, I don't see it being banned because it would hurt too many decks that Konami have been pushing, and just the attribute in general. Although it is a very good card, Light and Dark decks (for example) have far more varied support options. In the absence of numerous smaller fire support cards, I think the presence of rekindling is a fair balance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Althemia Posted February 21, 2014 Report Share Posted February 21, 2014 I don't see it being banned because it would hurt too many decks that Konami have been pushingMay I ask what exactly those decks are? The only one I can think of would be Hazy Flames, and even then.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daigusto Sphreez Posted February 21, 2014 Report Share Posted February 21, 2014 May I ask what exactly those decks are? The only one I can think of would be Hazy Flames, and even then.. Well as far as new cards go, Hazy Flames are the only immediate ones, but Kings/Fists are both doing very well, and not limiting wolfbark or tenki is a push to those archetypes in itself. Banning Rekindling would pretty much invalidate Hazy Flames, make Fire Fists/Kings less potent, lavals unplayable... Since a lot of these decks work from the graveyard, banning one of the only cards they have that retrieves monsters from the Graveyard is a big kick in the teeth. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Althemia Posted February 21, 2014 Report Share Posted February 21, 2014 Well as far as new cards go, Hazy Flames are the only immediate ones, but Kings/Fists are both doing very well, and not limiting wolfbark or tenki is a push to those archetypes in itself.Banning Rekindling would pretty much invalidate Hazy Flames, make Fire Fists/Kings less potent, lavals unplayable...Since a lot of these decks work from the graveyard, banning one of the only cards they have that retrieves monsters from the Graveyard is a big kick in the teeth.But the question is: Do these decks truly deserve to have that option? Because Kings and Fists can run perfectly fine without Rekindling, they just lose a big degenerate factor that made them a huge deck. Lavals don't even deserve to exist, just like how Gishki don't. They're only used for doing degenerate stuff as their sole purpose and that's it. Hazy Flames can still function without the option of Rekindling being there, so that's also perfectly fine.Also I don't think you exactly know what push means. Push means that Konami wants them to do well, mainly because a set of cards is new and that would mean that sales go up. As a result, Konami are not pushing 3 of the 4 archetypes you mentioned. Fists, Kings and Lavals have all had their product cycle finished, meaning that Konami cannot make any more profit off of them 9/10 so it's time to begin fixing them. So really, Hazy Flames is the only immediate archetype they're attempting to push that utilizes Rekindling. There's nothing wrong with hitting Rekindling now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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