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They should unban Thousand-Eyes Restrict.

Frankly I actually sort of want him to be at 1. With so many non-battle methods of destruction including but not limited to Dracossack, Dark Hole (Limited, but still), and Volcasaurus, I think having a single Restrict woudlnt be too horrible a change. He would require a dedicated deck, maybe even more so than Perfect Herald, to keep him on the field and in control, which I doubt would become meta, or at least not Tier 1.

 

But there is the potential for him to potentially be splashed into any deck as a monster removal with the help of instant fusion, then CoTH him later when you have advantage to seal the deal.

 

He has pros and cons, but he would make nowhere near as much an impact to the game as he did way back when, and especially not if Limited.

 

Or this might just be me and my bias towards all things Relinquished.

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OT: I'd honestly ban so many cards outright just for being OTK enablers. I'd prefer it if it were near impossible to perform an OTK, thus I'd kill almost every archetype so bad that I'd probably earn neg-reps. 

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It's obvious that mermails and fire fist need to be hit.

 

With fire fist I could see them semi-limiting tenki, bear, and wolfbark, but more than likely one of them is ending up limited.  My vote's on wolfbark.

 

With mermails they'll probably limit either teus, sphere, or linde.  While I'd prefer linde, it'll proably be teus.

 

For hieratic rulers I wish they'd ban the big rulers.  The more likely scenario is that they ban wingbeat so they can't have a psuedo heavy storm while other decks don't.

 

For geargia/karakuri either geargia gear, armor, or the karakuri synchros are taking a hit.  My vote's on the synchros to limited or banned.

 

Bujins might see tenki, crane or yamato semi-limited, but nothing more than that since they have another pack coming.

 

Harpies have been kind of popular lately so hysteric party might get a semi-limit, otherwise they'll be left alone.

 

Same thing with madolche, possibly a semi on either chateau or ticket as a preventative slap on the wrist hit, but probably not since they want to sell angelly.

 

Magical stone excavation will probably come off the list now because if magician of faith didn't do anything this definitely won't.

 

Speaking of magician of faith, I can see her moving to 2 or 3 since she did nothing.

 

Since no one has been in a hurry to recycle spell cards, dark magician of chaos may come back to one, but if he does magician of faith probably won't move this list.

 

Maybe cyber stein goes to 1 since the OCG tried it, I don't really know if they will though.

 

Maybe wall of revealing light goes to 3 since self destruct button got banned, and you won't usually resolve more than 1 in one duel anyway.

 

 

There's probably more stuff I'm forgetting, but I think that's most of the important stuff.

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My personal banlist:
(Note: Its my opinion, also changes might not be applied this banlist, but i think they will happen in the future)

Forbidden:
Royal Tribute (Instawin against most decks, why is this even allowed?)
Firegrass

Exodia, The Forbidden One (Instawin condition, bad for the game health)

Limited:
Ring of Destruction (Burn isn't that strong at this moment in the first place, Easy to negate nowadays)

Elemental Hero Stratos (Structure deck coming out soon, $$$)
Glow-up Bulb (Plants aren't seeing play anyway)
Sinister Serpent (Cant see a reason why this is banned)
Thousand-Eyes Restrict (With Dragosack out there, there is no reason for this to be banned... at all)
Dark Strike Fighter (Implying OCG change happens here too)

Snatch Steal (Enough ways to stop this card, gives out 1000 lifepoints each turn, not that OP)
Royal Opression (Would make the meta game more interesting)

Infernity Barrier (Too strong at the moment)

Semi-Limited:
Tenki (Would love to see this at 1 or banned, but they won't because $$$)
Necroface (With the nerfs on D.D. This card isn't that dangerous anymore)

Infernity Launcher (Could work if other Infernity cards got nerfed)
Infernity Archfiend (To compensate for Launcher)

Unlimited:
Cyber Stein (Tons of cards to bypass this card anyway, running more than 1 is useless)

Wall of Revealing Light (What is the point of running it x3 anyways?)
Exodia pieces(Head is banned, keeping them on here has no point)
Magical Stone Excavation (Honestly, who runs this card? Same goes for Magician of Faith, this card isn't really that good nowadays)

 

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My personal banlist:
(Note: Its my opinion, also changes might not be applied this banlist, but i think they will happen in the future)

Forbidden:
Royal Tribute (Instawin against most decks, why is this even allowed?)
Firegrass

Exodia, The Forbidden One (Instawin condition, bad for the game health)

Limited:
Ring of Destruction (Burn isn't that strong at this moment in the first place, Easy to negate nowadays) BURN IS BURN IS BURN IS BURN IS BURN IS BURN IS BURN IS BURN

Elemental Hero Stratos (Structure deck coming out soon, $$$) Still doesn't justify that he is abused like hell.
Glow-up Bulb (Plants aren't seeing play anyway) WHILE I'D LOVE THIS.....PLANT'S AREN'T SEEING PLAY? MAN SYLVANS MUST NOT BE PLANTS
Sinister Serpent (Cant see a reason why this is banned) Helps something or another too much
Thousand-Eyes Restrict (With Dragosack out there, there is no reason for this to be banned... at all) ??? why the hell use a rank 7 to justify this? ONE MONSTER? REALLY?
Dark Strike Fighter (Implying OCG change happens here too)

Snatch Steal (Enough ways to stop this card, gives out 1000 lifepoints each turn, not that OP) IT FREAKING TAKES AWAY A MONSTER
MST? MST DOES NOT FREAKING JUSTIFY THIS HELL

Royal Opression (Would make the meta game more interesting) Freaking nuts, this guy is

Infernity Barrier (Too strong at the moment)

Semi-Limited:
Tenki (Would love to see this at 1 or banned, but they won't because $$$)
Necroface (With the nerfs on D.D. This card isn't that dangerous anymore)

Infernity Launcher (Could work if other Infernity cards got nerfed)
Infernity Archfiend (To compensate for Launcher)

Unlimited:
Cyber Stein (Tons of cards to bypass this card anyway, running more than 1 is useless) Good god what the hell are you smoking?

Wall of Revealing Light (What is the point of running it x3 anyways?)
Exodia pieces(Head is banned, keeping them on here has no point)
Magical Stone Excavation (Honestly, who runs this card? Same goes for Magician of Faith, this card isn't really that good nowadays)

 

GOOD GRIEF MAN

DON'T JUSTIFY HELL LIKE THIS

"IT CAN BE STOPPED"=/=PERFECTLY FINE

 

Oops capslock.

And on Exodia....

BAD FOR GAME HEALTH HE SAYS

UNLIMIT CYBER STEIN HE SAYS

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GOOD GRIEF MAN

DON'T JUSTIFY HELL LIKE THIS

"IT CAN BE STOPPED"=/=PERFECTLY FINE

 

Oops capslock.

And on Exodia....

BAD FOR GAME HEALTH HE SAYS

UNLIMIT CYBER STEIN HE SAYS

Cyber Stein OTK combo is far from OP, it can be stopped with close to every card in the game.
As with plants not seeing any play, i was talking about actual classic plants (Akiza plants).
Sylvans? Only seem them a couple of times, they seem very weak... Maybe in combo with the big gemini monster that special summons from your deck, but honestly i don't see the problem.
I don't want Stratos to be unbanned, but knowing cashnami they will probably do it anyways because of money
I don't see the problem with Snatch Steal and Thousand Eyes, There are way worse cards out there at the moment.
 

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My personal banlist:
(Note: Its my opinion, also changes might not be applied this banlist, but i think they will happen in the future)

Forbidden:
Royal Tribute (Instawin against most decks, why is this even allowed?)
Firegrass

Exodia, The Forbidden One (Instawin condition, bad for the game health)

Limited:
Ring of Destruction (Burn isn't that strong at this moment in the first place, Easy to negate nowadays)

Elemental Hero Stratos (Structure deck coming out soon, $$$)
Glow-up Bulb (Plants aren't seeing play anyway)
Sinister Serpent (Cant see a reason why this is banned)
Thousand-Eyes Restrict (With Dragosack out there, there is no reason for this to be banned... at all)
Dark Strike Fighter (Implying OCG change happens here too)

Snatch Steal (Enough ways to stop this card, gives out 1000 lifepoints each turn, not that OP)
Royal Opression (Would make the meta game more interesting)

Infernity Barrier (Too strong at the moment)

Semi-Limited:
Tenki (Would love to see this at 1 or banned, but they won't because $$$)
Necroface (With the nerfs on D.D. This card isn't that dangerous anymore)

Infernity Launcher (Could work if other Infernity cards got nerfed)
Infernity Archfiend (To compensate for Launcher)

Unlimited:
Cyber Stein (Tons of cards to bypass this card anyway, running more than 1 is useless)

Wall of Revealing Light (What is the point of running it x3 anyways?)
Exodia pieces(Head is banned, keeping them on here has no point)
Magical Stone Excavation (Honestly, who runs this card? Same goes for Magician of Faith, this card isn't really that good nowadays)

 

 

Why the hell are Infernities the deck you have hit most and you've left Water untouched, hell, given them a serpent? That's ignoring the absolutely horrendous bans.

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Cyber Stein OTK combo is far from OP, it can be stopped with close to every card in the game.
As with plants not seeing any play, i was talking about actual classic plants (Akiza plants).
Sylvans? Only seem them a couple of times, they seem very weak... Maybe in combo with the big gemini monster that special summons from your deck, but honestly i don't see the problem.
I don't want Stratos to be unbanned, but knowing cashnami they will probably do it anyways because of money
I don't see the problem with Snatch Steal and Thousand Eyes, There are way worse cards out there at the moment.
 

m8 you need a lesson or two

OP doesn't mean it can't be stopped

it freaking doesn't

Sylvans are one of the freaking things now

WEAK? You've been dueling scrubs,

YOU NEVER
EVER
EVER
EVER
EVER
SAY "I don't see an issue with Banned Card A because there is worse out there right now" 

that is freaking awful buddy

 

And a card is never "fair" because it has many outs to it. That hardly applies to anything.

That's like saying Card of Safe Return should be put to three because Artifacts and MST.

 

Sorry if I seem rude.

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m8 you need a lesson or two

OP doesn't mean it can't be stopped

it freaking doesn't

Sylvans are one of the freaking things now

WEAK? You've been dueling scrubs,

YOU NEVER
EVER
EVER
EVER
EVER
SAY "I don't see an issue with Banned Card A because there is worse out there right now" 

that is freaking awful buddy

 

And a card is never "fair" because it has many outs to it. That hardly applies to anything.

That's like saying Card of Safe Return should be put to three because Artifacts and MST.

 

Considering Sylvanas cards haven't seen a lot of playing yet, its hard to tell what exactly to do about theme.
One suggestion is to ban Gigaplant, but that would nerf other plants too..
Cyberstein costs 5k hp and is really inconcistent, with the current gamespeed its perfectly fine to allow such a card to be ran.
I dont see the harm at putting Card of Safe Return to 3 quite honestly, not saying it should be done

Why the hell are Infernities the deck you have hit most and you've left Water untouched, hell, given them a serpent? That's ignoring the absolutely horrendous bans.

Not hit, they just need a change.
The XYZ version stomps too much atm imo.
Water untouched?
I don't see the problem with water at all?

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Considering Sylvanas cards haven't seen a lot of playing yet, its hard to tell what exactly to do about theme.
One suggestion is to ban Gigaplant, but that would nerf other plants too..
Cyberstein costs 5k hp and is really inconcistent, with the current gamespeed its perfectly fine to allow such a card to be ran.
I dont see the harm at putting Card of Safe Return to 3 quite honestly, not saying it should be done

Not hit, they just need a change.
The XYZ version stomps too much atm imo.
Water untouched?
I don't see the problem with water at all?

m8 fecking mermails

 

>Card of safe return at 3

>lemme guess Raigeki @3 and monster reborn @3?

 

Gigaplant? A freaking gemini? Banned? I'm sorry but dude this is so off. Aix you are here...... say something, please. You play fecking Sylvans. They don't need stuff like Gigaplant, do they?

 

Cyberstein LITERALLY EXISTS for OTKS

That is NOT good for the game. EVER. No matter how inconsistent(?) it is.

 

iHop I owe you a rep but I'm out of em for the day. =P

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My personal banlist:
(Note: Its my opinion, also changes might not be applied this banlist, but i think they will happen in the future)

Forbidden:
Royal Tribute (Instawin against most decks, why is this even allowed?)
Firegrass

Exodia, The Forbidden One (Instawin condition, bad for the game health)

Limited:
Ring of Destruction (Burn isn't that strong at this moment in the first place, Easy to negate nowadays)

Elemental Hero Stratos (Structure deck coming out soon, $$$)
Glow-up Bulb (Plants aren't seeing play anyway)
Sinister Serpent (Cant see a reason why this is banned)
Thousand-Eyes Restrict (With Dragosack out there, there is no reason for this to be banned... at all)
Dark Strike Fighter (Implying OCG change happens here too)

Snatch Steal (Enough ways to stop this card, gives out 1000 lifepoints each turn, not that OP)
Royal Opression (Would make the meta game more interesting)

Infernity Barrier (Too strong at the moment)

Semi-Limited:
Tenki (Would love to see this at 1 or banned, but they won't because $$$)
Necroface (With the nerfs on D.D. This card isn't that dangerous anymore)

Infernity Launcher (Could work if other Infernity cards got nerfed)
Infernity Archfiend (To compensate for Launcher)

Unlimited:
Cyber Stein (Tons of cards to bypass this card anyway, running more than 1 is useless)

Wall of Revealing Light (What is the point of running it x3 anyways?)
Exodia pieces(Head is banned, keeping them on here has no point)
Magical Stone Excavation (Honestly, who runs this card? Same goes for Magician of Faith, this card isn't really that good nowadays)

 

 

holy fuck what the fuck is this fucking shit

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m8 fecking mermails

 

>Card of safe return at 3

>lemme guess Raigeki @3 and monster reborn @3?

 

Gigaplant? A freaking gemini? Banned? I'm sorry but dude this is so off. Aix you are here...... say something, please. You play fecking Sylvans. They don't need stuff like Gigaplant, do they?

 

Cyberstein LITERALLY EXISTS for OTKS

That is NOT good for the game. EVER. No matter how inconsistent(?) it is.

 

iHop I owe you a rep but I'm out of em for the day. =P

Gigaplant is a problem, people don't know it yet: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s2HadEEiONk
I already said the card of safe return thing could be ok, but i wouldn't advice it because it is probably banned because of loops.
Limiter Removal exists for OTKS. Lets ban it too.
Exodia Exists for OTKS, Morphing Jar exists for OTKS... i could go on.

 

Nah I'm out I have 0 intentions of going on a massive argument with someone who has 0 idea of the meta, plus I'm too tired.

0 idea of meta?
I believe to have quite the understanding of the meta...
I don't really go to tournaments (there are none in my area) so that might explain something..

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holy f*** what the f*** is this f***ing s***

iou 1 rep

 

guize guize pls no flame inb4threadlock

 

"I already said the card of safe return thing could be ok, but i wouldn't advice it because it is probably banned because of loops.

Limiter Removal exists for OTKS. Lets ban it too.
Exodia Exists for OTKS, Morphing Jar exists for OTKS... i could go on."



You literally just listed 2 cards that need bans

 

>logic

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Kiryu Kyousuke, please post your list here http://duelistgroundz.com/index.php?showtopic=158687&page=22

Ok done

iou 1 rep

 

guize guize pls no flame inb4threadlock

 

 

 



You literally just listed 2 cards that need bans

 

>logic

2 cards that need bans?

I honestly don't see why you would ban Limiter removal, except for unbanning cyberstein... which creates some kind of paradox

holy f*** what the f*** is this f***ing s***

Uhh... i guess thats kinda offensive language or something?

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