SANDAA BORUTO Posted March 7, 2014 Report Share Posted March 7, 2014 FLIP: Send the top 5 cards of your opponent's Deck to the Graveyard. I just love this card. It's so trollish and unexpected that it surprises even the more experienced duelists. Discuss. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goddamnit names are a pain Posted March 7, 2014 Report Share Posted March 7, 2014 *mills Dandylion, various Synchron cards, Doppel warrior, and level eater* GG baka =D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Not-so-Radiant Arin Posted March 7, 2014 Report Share Posted March 7, 2014 That doesn't mean anything. In a Graveyard-centric format, which is all of them, you typically want to be able to banish your opponent's card rather than sending them to the Graveyard to prevent stupid combos. Needle Worm does what it's supposed to, it's just not exactly a great card right now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goddamnit names are a pain Posted March 7, 2014 Report Share Posted March 7, 2014 That doesn't mean anything. In a Graveyard-centric format, which is all of them, you typically want to be able to banish your opponent's card rather than sending them to the Graveyard to prevent stupid combos. Needle Worm does what it's supposed to, it's just not exactly a great card right now. It was a joke. That's the best case scenario for the guy getting wormed. This guy majorly screws with people....needles all up their butt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wildflame Posted March 7, 2014 Report Share Posted March 7, 2014 Empty Jar /thread Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maeriberii Haan Posted March 7, 2014 Report Share Posted March 7, 2014 If only this banishes 5 cards face-down from the top deck. oh wait, Skeleton. Anyone has ever built Ghostrick Empty Jar? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goddamnit names are a pain Posted March 7, 2014 Report Share Posted March 7, 2014 If only this banishes 5 cards face-down from the top deck. oh wait, Skeleton. Anyone has ever built Ghostrick Empty Jar? but...but...if you put Ghostricks in an empty jar it isn't empty anymore.... see? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AGATHODAIMON BANGTAIL COW Posted March 7, 2014 Report Share Posted March 7, 2014 but...but...if you put Ghostricks in an empty jar it isn't empty anymore.... see? It's still pretty empty. OT: This form of victory could have been pretty nice if executed properly, but instead, we have More-Thing Jar who wants to be read bedtime story after bedtime story, and that isn't very interactive with your opponent at all. I'd like the idea of Decks having different win conditions than the norm, it's just that they either suck or are stupid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goddamnit names are a pain Posted March 7, 2014 Report Share Posted March 7, 2014 It's still pretty empty. You see....empty means not having anything in it. Having something in it automatically makes this as far from empty as possible. =P It would be neat to see though, but I think Empty Jar is fine (as it can be) as is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AGATHODAIMON BANGTAIL COW Posted March 7, 2014 Report Share Posted March 7, 2014 You see....empty means not having anything in it. Having something in it automatically makes this as far from empty as possible. It's still pretty close since Yugimonz cards have very little depth. But if you want to be technical, then taking out the Ghostbrick Skeletors won't make the jar empty; it's full of air. And Empty Jar isn't "fine." It's a Deck where one player goes through a ton of books so a jar monster can be weird and unable to decide whether to be face-up or face down, and then your opponent has no more cards in the Deck. Even if you can't fling your opponent's Deck away, you still mess up their hand (albeit they get more cards, but you do too). Worm is just more direct since they can't get anything new out of it, but at the same time, you aren't draw-5'ing into more Books of Taiyou/Moon/Eclipse. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sleepy Posted March 7, 2014 Report Share Posted March 7, 2014 You see....empty means not having anything in it. Having something in it automatically makes this as far from empty as possible. =P It would be neat to see though, but I think Empty Jar is fine (as it can be) as is. Then there's no such thing as an empty jar unless you find a vacuum space that doesn't destroy the jar. Conclusion: Empty Jar is a lie-*shot* OT: The card was legit back when the world was slow and simple. I don't think there is a way for this to be good as a solid independent choice ever again. It'll either drift towards "It sucks" or "OTK". Any in-between is but a dream within a dream from something that most (if not all) mortal eyes think they are enlightened enough to grasp and obtain. In reality, they are all naive when thinking they posses the wisdom and power given by Crom since the ancient times, to decipher the riddle and witness the day Needle Worm triumphs it's losing war against the ever-growing forces that overwhelm them and throw them into the abyss underground. . . . . or something like that..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slinky Posted March 7, 2014 Report Share Posted March 7, 2014 You see....empty means not having anything in it. Having something in it automatically makes this as far from empty as possible. =P It would be neat to see though, but I think Empty Jar is fine (as it can be) as is. Nothing is empty. Atoms exist. Air exists Molecules exist The Light passing through the jar exists Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zauls Posted March 7, 2014 Report Share Posted March 7, 2014 Nothing is empty. Atoms exist. Air exists Molecules exist The Light passing through the jar exists Your head is an exception to this rule. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aix Posted March 7, 2014 Report Share Posted March 7, 2014 Ouch. It's only application is in empty jar and empty jar is no fun :( Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vla1ne Posted March 8, 2014 Report Share Posted March 8, 2014 ...Something about A combo with banisher of radiance... And it's gone now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trebuchet MS Posted March 8, 2014 Report Share Posted March 8, 2014 If only other mill effects, ignoring the Jars, had this degree of potency. Then we might have a competent mill Deck. No, Iron Chain Snake and Dragon don't count. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
玄魔の王 Posted March 11, 2014 Report Share Posted March 11, 2014 You see....empty means not having anything in it. Having something in it automatically makes this as far from empty as possible. Except a jar can only truly be empty in a perfect vacuum. :P OT: the problem is it's a flip effect monster, which means it's really only viable in Empty Jar, and we all know why that deck is dumb. Why does Konami refuse to make a decent alternate win-con that isn't solitaire? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canadian Posted March 11, 2014 Report Share Posted March 11, 2014 2007 Necroface Deck Out <3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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