Blake Posted April 4, 2014 Report Share Posted April 4, 2014 I want this to come back to 2 and I feel it's realistic. At 1, it's honestly kinda bad, and it only gets worse Post-PRIO, so I don't see a problem with having 2 of it. 3 of it seems a bit much in the TCG format, but 2 sounds fine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Urayne Posted April 4, 2014 Report Share Posted April 4, 2014 i have the card... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toffee. Posted April 4, 2014 Report Share Posted April 4, 2014 If we move this to 2, can we move Bottomless to 0?....Please?(Shoosh. I can dream, can't I?) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rodrigo Posted April 4, 2014 Report Share Posted April 4, 2014 This makes me remember that Worm deck that ran 3 copies of this card. That was a cool deck. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-Noel- Posted April 4, 2014 Report Share Posted April 4, 2014 Playing OCG, no words for that random anti-meta with 3 of this and 3 moles... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canadian Posted April 4, 2014 Report Share Posted April 4, 2014 Great card. I'd rather have this and Book back over cards like Warning and Bottomless. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sleepy Posted April 4, 2014 Report Share Posted April 4, 2014 It's realistic that we'll eventually see this again at even 3. It's a very good staple, but I often find myself using Torrential, Bottomless, and others before this card. Also, when Pendulums become more widely used, returning to the hand will actually be returning to the hand instead of to the Extra Deck. The card is a very interesting tech in Madolches, but other than that, there's not much else. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wildflame Posted April 4, 2014 Report Share Posted April 4, 2014 If we move this to 2, can we move Bottomless to 0? ....Please? (Shoosh. I can dream, can't I?) No. Bad Armz. Go away. But yeah, I see this coming back to to, even with the recent TCG logic to hit all good backrow. It has fallen out of favor recently. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slinky Posted April 4, 2014 Report Share Posted April 4, 2014 Hitting Bottomless is going to happen. Gotta push dem pendulums. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trebuchet MS Posted April 5, 2014 Report Share Posted April 5, 2014 For a card with such a simple sentence that comes at no cost or timing restriction to be Limited, it says a bunch about how it's a strong example of Boring but Practical. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sleepy Posted April 5, 2014 Report Share Posted April 5, 2014 For a card with such a simple sentence that comes at no cost or timing restriction to be Limited, it says a bunch about how it's a strong example of Boring but Practical. Interesting article. Yeah being "cool but impractical", or rather being something not done all that easily or all that often, is what makes it cool. When stuff tries to get "cool but practical" it's too much of an explosion and it eventually becomes the new standard of "boring but practical". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goddamnit names are a pain Posted April 5, 2014 Report Share Posted April 5, 2014 No seriously they can put Bottomless Trap Hole to 0 and this to two and then anything to put Book of Moon at 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the_engineer Posted April 5, 2014 Report Share Posted April 5, 2014 bottomless at 2 and this at 3 because why not? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neutrality Man Posted April 5, 2014 Report Share Posted April 5, 2014 bottomless at 2 and this at 3 because why not? So much agreed. Not sure why they were hit so low to beg-- https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x_shN4xmkdQ (0:10) Never mind, of course that's why. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toffee. Posted April 5, 2014 Report Share Posted April 5, 2014 For a card with such a simple sentence that comes at no cost or timing restriction to be Limited, it says a bunch about how it's a strong example of Boring but Practical.So lets let people run more of it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goddamnit names are a pain Posted April 5, 2014 Report Share Posted April 5, 2014 bottomless at 2 and this at 3 because why not? Because that would be awful for the game. The opponent could never do anything. Ever. I hope you're not serious. These cards aren't awful for the game in small dosages but seriously they don't really need to go past like 1-2. I'd prefer to see some of them at 0 or even -1. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miror B Posted April 5, 2014 Report Share Posted April 5, 2014 Because that would be awful for the game. The opponent could never do anything. Ever. I don't see why that's a bad strategy in moderation for a game Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the_engineer Posted April 5, 2014 Report Share Posted April 5, 2014 Because that would be awful for the game. The opponent could never do anything. Ever. I hope you're not serious. These cards aren't awful for the game in small dosages but seriously they don't really need to go past like 1-2. I'd prefer to see some of them at 0 or even -1. That was obviously a troll, they should remain at 1 in my opinion, but bottomless could be put at 2 due to all the pendulum thing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AGATHODAIMON BANGTAIL COW Posted April 5, 2014 Report Share Posted April 5, 2014 That was obviously a troll, they should remain at 1 in my opinion, but bottomless could be put at 2 due to all the pendulum thing So you made yourself look stupid in a bad attempt to be funny? And then failed? TGM, meet the new TGM. Shake hands, raise dongers, touch dongers, etc. OT: This card is funny since you could play it and imagine you're launching whatever monster into the sky. Working at a lot of times and being able to bounce your own monsters is nice, but you know, it's not really permanently removing the card in question. Against some monsters, you just really shouldn't use this card. There's things like Cydra who would just come back as if nothing happened, and then there's also monsters who get to use their NS effect a second time. Bouncing an ED monster is great, even if it lets your opponent Summon it again without running multiples of the card. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neochu-H Posted April 5, 2014 Report Share Posted April 5, 2014 no, don't put this at 2 just run 3 metaion the time lord Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lunar Origins Posted April 8, 2014 Report Share Posted April 8, 2014 I tech'd this BEFORE it was cool. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goddamnit names are a pain Posted April 8, 2014 Report Share Posted April 8, 2014 I tech'd this BEFORE it was cool. What I find funny IS how no one seemed to use this card back in the day- like a long long time ago. Not that I remember. Because blowing stuff up was so hipster way back when. I'm not really sure I just don't remember seeing it used. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lunar Origins Posted April 8, 2014 Report Share Posted April 8, 2014 It was completely amazing during the Synchro era. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toffee. Posted April 8, 2014 Report Share Posted April 8, 2014 What I find funny IS how no one seemed to use this card back in the day-Back in the day, we had Warning@2 and Judgment@1.Compulse was only underrated because it was over-shadowed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sleepy Posted April 8, 2014 Report Share Posted April 8, 2014 There was some point where this card was completely useless though, at least in my area. JD would be way too common, and Synchros could swarm more than this card's power could hold back. For example, I ran a Rekindling deck during the Synchro era. It was weird because as the game changed, we suddenly became all "why didn't we notice this before?" Though that was why. Just like Solemn Judgment's potential 4000 pay was way too much in exchange for it's versatility back when the game was slow enough that you could easily draw into the more specific options and could never drain your hand so you wouldn't mind discard costs. Then as the game changed, it's bad design started to shine and kept on going until the banlist happened. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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