krakonfour Posted July 18, 2014 Report Share Posted July 18, 2014 You've totally lost me when Jewish mythology in YGO. Can I get a link for how all this ties together? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ultravires Posted July 18, 2014 Author Report Share Posted July 18, 2014 But, the problem is that only 9 spheres came out of Egrystal's body. So what creates the 10th? My theory is that Tool is the Qliphoth that activates the Tree, and thus begins Qliphoth production. EDIT: Nevermind, I can't count. 10 spheres leave Egrystal's body. I assume the rainbow coloured one that leaves him last is probably the one that becomes Apoqliphoth. It would make sense as to how Nephilim took it over, since the Rainbow is obviously Crystal's core. I'm unsure of that. If I'm right, Apoqliphoth is the set of "feet" propelling the Tree of Life and the Naturia Tree into the air, meaning it isn't one of the Qliphoths generated by the Sephirot. Also, it could be either Crystal or Iolite's core, as the one shown on Apoqliphoth appears to be a muted greyish color. I have a feeling that we still haven't seen the true boss of the archetype yet, as hard as that is to believe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blake Posted July 18, 2014 Report Share Posted July 18, 2014 Gems we have to fit in: Crystal Alexandrite Obsidian Iolite Sardonyx Emerald Tourmaline Sapphire Garnet Amber So we have to look AT the cards. [spoiler=Knights] [/spoiler] So now we can assign gems and colors. Black - Obsidian White - Crystal Dark Blue - Iolite Light Blue - Sapphire Orange - Amber Yellow - Tourmaline Green - Emerald Red - Garnet This leaves 2. The muddled grey and the rainbow for Sardonyx and Alexandrite. And given Alex... It's likely the rainbow. Which means, why is Sardonyx grey...? It's possible that it's what became Egrystal with whatever remains of Cairn there were, which is why it's ablaze now. Though, it could be Garnet as well. So either Garnet or Sardonyx' core became Egrystal, which left its gem muddled. Also, something to note: Sophia's jewels were taken to get rid of her power. Sombres and Kerykeion took that power as her own. Coincidence that the qliphs are powered by the Gem-Knights? I think not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maeriberii Haan Posted July 18, 2014 Report Share Posted July 18, 2014 I believe Apoqliphoth is a stand in of the Throne-Chariot of God, Merkabah. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Warden Posted July 18, 2014 Report Share Posted July 18, 2014 I was thinking the same as well, and by looking at each Qlip I noticed the gems inlaid into each of them. Emerald became Archive Tourmaline became Tool Obsidian became Shell Amber became Genome Sapphire became Disk Sardonyx(?) became Apoqliphoth... wait, the Gem is further down in the body, so Alexandrite (or whoever is the rainbow sphere) is Apoqliphoth. Which leaves 4 gems still unaccounted for. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ultravires Posted July 18, 2014 Author Report Share Posted July 18, 2014 Sardonyx doesn't seem to be one of the OG Gem-Knights; he's more along the lines of Kuraz and Delg. Also you're forgetting Pearl. Rainbow - Crystal/Master Diamond Black - Obsidian White - Pearl Purple - Alexandrite/Amethyst Grey - Iolite/Zirconia Blue - Sapphire/Aquamarine Orange - Amber/Citrine Yellow - Tourmaline/Topaz Green - Emerald Red - Garnet/Ruby Alexandrite is a stone that changes colors depending on the light passing through it, but the primary color under mixed light is almost always a deep purple. The color on the scan is very washed out, the "dark blue" orb is actually purple from phone pics I've seen. It could also be that they don't merely represent the base forms, but the Fusions as well. I listed the respective ones above. Prismaura being part of Crystal could be the reason the Qliphoths take on a Vylon-esque appearance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blake Posted July 18, 2014 Report Share Posted July 18, 2014 The issue with that is that Pearl/etc. aren't OG Gem-Knights either.Pearl is Gishki Shellfish + some Gem-Knight. Sardonyx is in the same vein as Iolite and Amber. And including him, there are exactly 10 unfused Knights, not including Lazuli. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ultravires Posted July 18, 2014 Author Report Share Posted July 18, 2014 I guess we'll see when we get more Qliphoths. For now, though, those five are easy to confirm. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blake Posted July 18, 2014 Report Share Posted July 18, 2014 We will have to wait. There's just one more thing I want to point out overall.. We know that Unukalhai's armor was taken by the Shaddolls. It's implied they killed Unuk, too. This resulted in Shaddoll Lizard. Now this sounds like it's the end for Unuk, but bear with me. Unlike Unuk and Lizard, Suanni and Pulao seem to have been left alive... but forcefully fused into the corrupted Taotie. It looks like a binding of the two and has the level to explain it. So now we have Taotie. Now, here's where lizard comes back. Jiaotu is clearly a corrupted Bixi, and now we're able to confirm it's the armor of Unukalhai that it's wearing. See it yet? If not, it's fine, it'll be clear soon. (Also this really shows you how big the f***ing yang zing are, and that pulao is probably the smallest bar Chiwen, and it's still as big as gulldos) Do you see it now? Yazi is Jiaotu + Taotie- Bixi + Suanni + Pulao + Unukalhai + Shaddoll influence. We can see Lizard's armor breaking free, specfically the coiling metal on its tail... Go back and look at Lizard and Jiaotu before moving forward. Let's also think about what that trap does. It steroids your battling Yang Zing... then blows it up after a blaze of glory or wrath. The yang zing can reform in the game, but this is still the death of Yazi. But it isn't the death of Shaddoll Lizard... Lizard is probably a possessed Unukalhai, not a dead one. pp From what we can tell here, this was all in Nephilim's plan. She used Lizard to remove the threat of the Yang Zing, and possibly absorb their power; A power directly from Sombres herself. Not to mention she absorbed the power of a successor to the Constellars as well. If not multiples. If you look at Shekhinaga, she has not 1 but 2 Shaddoll Lizard gold strands wrapping around her. You can see the wings on the end of the strands on Jiaotu/the trap/Lizard over each of her shoulders. Hell, the "wing" is made either with Rasalhague's old staff or in emulation of it. And as we learned earlier, Killer APPEARS to be the throne of God's equivalent. So she is using her power to sit on God's throne and begin to gain the power to take over the system. It's entering throne mode, hence its stats reversing. And she bound herself to this throne. To become the god dwelling in her "temple". To take the name of a serpentine god. To sit on God's throne. To gain the power of the Sefiroth (sacred tree) and Qliphoth. To regain the system she'd lost the ability to control as secondary goddess. To emulate the Black and White Sacred Serpent, both in body and methodology. So I'd like to propose the true identity of Nephilim, given her apparent progenitor status for the dolls (Bar the actual threads made from Shaddollroots), her mimicry of the current god and goddess, and her apparent link to and plan to bring the Qliphoths up... Nephilim is Tierra taking a form other than that of a god, because she cannot yet be god. Sombres and Kerykeion have become the main system running it, so Tierra cannot simply take over the system at this time. Which is why she needs the power of the Qliphoths to further her plans. The fact that both Dolls and Qliphoth are both based in Hebrew mythos while Nutellas are Arabic in name and Yang Zing are oriental further implies a link, as does the fact that the Gem-Knights at least FUEL the Qliphoth, if not control them now. EDIT: Further inspection shows it's just straight-up Rasalhague's old staff wrapped around Lizard. And he made it his own. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
krakonfour Posted July 18, 2014 Report Share Posted July 18, 2014 I'm not sure, but it looks like in the last fusion that's she's forcefully bound herself to the throne with the strings and held together with the staff? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darj Posted July 19, 2014 Report Share Posted July 19, 2014 That is amazing. The hints of the DT events in each artwork, the references of religious lore, the plot, everything; Konami thought this really well, I never thought they would go this far with a card storyline. I love how Lizard took Rashalhage's staff and contributed with the corruption of an entire race/archetype. All of that under the command of Nephilim, the mastemind behind the Shaddoll's schemes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-Dom- Posted July 19, 2014 Report Share Posted July 19, 2014 Waitwaitwait. This card is just a rare?! I'm calling it now: it will be a higher rarity in the TCG. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ultravires Posted July 19, 2014 Author Report Share Posted July 19, 2014 Waitwaitwait. This card is just a rare?! I'm calling it now: it will be a higher rarity in the TCG. It's just a one-of in the deck, and you side it out Game 2. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maeriberii Haan Posted July 19, 2014 Report Share Posted July 19, 2014 Still will look gorgeous as hell as a secret. But yeah, if any card's gonna be a secret, it's Tool. This has a chance too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
~British Soul~ Posted July 20, 2014 Report Share Posted July 20, 2014 But yeah, if any card's gonna be a secret, it's Tool. This has a chance too. I don't think Tool will be a Secret at all. Imo, it'll most likely be Super, or Ultra at best. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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