TheycallmeBrick Posted August 6, 2014 Report Share Posted August 6, 2014 [spoiler=Lore] 2 Level 4 monsters Once per turn, you can either: Target 1 face-up Xyz Monster you control; equip this card to that target, OR: Unequip this card and Special Summon it in face-up Attack Position. The equipped monster can attack your opponent directly. When the equipped monster inflicts battle damage to your opponent: You can discard 1 card; inflict 500 damage to your opponent.[/spoiler] Who's a giant ball and is (from I see) going to be in Duelist Alliance? This guy. ...I really don't understand why I like these Numbers so much. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
~British Soul~ Posted August 6, 2014 Report Share Posted August 6, 2014 It's also gonna be a common as well, so it'll be an easy to get Number. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Airride Posted August 6, 2014 Report Share Posted August 6, 2014 Comparing this to Rhapsody: + This is union-like, where it can unequip/requip itself, whereas Rhapsody is stuck on the equipped mon forever + This has an ATK stat, which can win games sometimes, I guess. +/- This turns the equipped mon into Heartlandraco more or less, so it can be used for a finishing blow more often (Especially with the Minor Burn you can inflict), whereas Rhapsody is better for punching holes in the opponent's monsters, since 1200 is a massive boost. - This doesn't use its Materials at all, where Rhapsody can be disruptive to graveyard strategies. Overall, it seems to more come down to personal preference. I personally like Phaposdy better, but I can see the merit of this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heraldry_lord Posted August 6, 2014 Report Share Posted August 6, 2014 Who's a giant ball and is (from I see) going to be in Duelist Alliance? This guy. ...I really don't understand why I like these Numbers so much. It could be how they were generally portrayed in the anime, or it could be the collector value. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blake Posted August 6, 2014 Report Share Posted August 6, 2014 Comparing this to Rhapsody: + This is union-like, where it can unequip/requip itself, whereas Rhapsody is stuck on the equipped mon forever + This has an ATK stat, which can win games sometimes, I guess. +/- This turns the equipped mon into Heartlandraco more or less, so it can be used for a finishing blow more often (Especially with the Minor Burn you can inflict), whereas Rhapsody is better for punching holes in the opponent's monsters, since 1200 is a massive boost. - This doesn't use its Materials at all, where Rhapsody can be disruptive to graveyard strategies. Overall, it seems to more come down to personal preference. I personally like Phaposdy better, but I can see the merit of this. No, it's just Rhapsody, because Rhapsody beats over things, can help Heartlandraco, and disrupts the Graveyard. Especially the last part. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heraldry_lord Posted August 6, 2014 Report Share Posted August 6, 2014 No, it's just Rhapsody, because Rhapsody beats over things, can help Heartlandraco, and disrupts the Graveyard. Especially the last part. This can turn anything into Heartlandraco, and be Ranked Up into Basiltrice, and that's it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darj Posted August 6, 2014 Report Share Posted August 6, 2014 I don't think this can compared with Rhpasody. Yes, they share the trait of equipping themselves to other Xyzs, but both have different purposes. Instead, I would compare this to Heartlandraco: 2000 damage direct attack vs. stronger direct attack but requires an Xyz + a discard. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Airride Posted August 6, 2014 Report Share Posted August 6, 2014 No, it's just Rhapsody, because Rhapsody beats over things, can help Heartlandraco, and disrupts the Graveyard. Especially the last part. ...People use Heartlandraco? I thought everybody said it was bad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blake Posted August 6, 2014 Report Share Posted August 6, 2014 I still believe Heartlandraco's a mediocre card at best, but it does see a lot of play. 2K swings aren't really something to sneeze at, and that secondary effect is live in a lot of decks, such as Madolche. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Azuh Posted August 6, 2014 Report Share Posted August 6, 2014 I've seen this cards use in Oni Zombies to great advantage. Otherwise this card is outclassed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sleepy Posted August 7, 2014 Report Share Posted August 7, 2014 It sounds a bit wasteful to make another Xyz just to make this live at all. That said, it is probably one of those cards that just ask you for some silly combos. Biggest beater I can think of for this would be inside Utopia Rank-Up decks, though those can already reach the 10k+ damage mark without help from another Xyz so there must be something else sizable enough. Typically it is better to just take down the enemy monsters rather than go around them like this unless its the final shot. I do like the image and the fact it doesn't need materials to work. That can be handy in some way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toffee. Posted August 7, 2014 Report Share Posted August 7, 2014 I've seen this cards use in Oni Zombies to great advantage. Otherwise this card is outclassedMore or less, any deck that can get out 2+ Xyz monsters per turn, could kinda' sorta' play this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
玄魔の王 Posted August 7, 2014 Report Share Posted August 7, 2014 This can turn anything into Heartlandraco, and be Ranked Up into Basiltrice, and that's it. Generic access to Basiltrice is nothing to sneeze at. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Warden Posted August 7, 2014 Report Share Posted August 7, 2014 I wouldn't call it Generic per say, since you are running a much more specific, and dare I say crummier version of a Rank 4 deck. Like seriously, the only Xyz Deck worth using Astral Force on are Rank 3s, as the raw power of the Rank 5s compliments the supportive nature of the Rank 3s. I honestly think Rhapsody is better. Nothing against this card, but I'd rather have sustain on an Xyz than wasting an additional 2 Level 4s on a direct attack, unless it would win me the game mind. Also, this is AF material ONLY in decks that can't mass produce Level 4s, as AFing Tri-Dust into Soldda is much more worth it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
玄魔の王 Posted August 7, 2014 Report Share Posted August 7, 2014 I wouldn't call it Generic per say se, since you are running a much more specific, and dare I say crummier version of a Rank 4 deck. Like seriously, the only Xyz Deck worth using Astral Force on are Rank 3s, as the raw power of the Rank 5s compliments the supportive nature of the Rank 3s. Basiltrice banishes the Doll Fusions and thus circumvents their recursion effect. Also, Rank 4s are easy to blast out, and while the targets are more Limited Astral Force has a couple good R6s: -Strike Bounzer -Beyond Hope -Gauntlet Launcher (semi-niche) -Soldda (niche) -Basiltrice Does that make the base monster better? No. Rhapsody always does better on its own. They just have very different applications. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Warden Posted August 7, 2014 Report Share Posted August 7, 2014 Yeah, but thing is that the Rank 4 toolbox is already pretty good; also Gauntlet Launcher isn't semi-niche since you can still play Gagaga Cowboy. Rank 4 AF is adorable, but realistically, it just reduces your utility as more and more of your Extra begins to require a near-unsearchable Spell card. Is Strike Bounzer and Basiltrice really worth gimping your deck over? I've tested it myself and Rank 4 variants really are much better than AF variants. Sure you have the element of surprise and probably N99, but that's where the interesting bit ends. If you're so desperate to play Rank 6s then you might as well just run Hieratics or some other Rank 6 deck. Rank 4s are already much better than most Rank 6s anyways. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slinky Posted August 8, 2014 Report Share Posted August 8, 2014 I swear this thing is Konamis way of trying to put Bakugan into yugioh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JadenxAtemYAOI Posted August 9, 2014 Report Share Posted August 9, 2014 Dark Rebellion with this sounds fantastic really. If the discard were an effect rather than a cost I could see this possibly working in Fableds or Dark Worlds. I personally like the idea of using this in Infernities. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blake Posted August 9, 2014 Report Share Posted August 9, 2014 Dark Rebellion with this sounds fantastic really. If the discard were an effect rather than a cost I could see this possibly working in Fableds or Dark Worlds. I personally like the idea of using this in Infernities. ... This is all horrible. First off, the point of dark rebellion is to remove threats from the board or push 2500 for game. Not to just swing. Using this with it would just be winmoar, and likely many other R4s would do just as well in the long run. Fableds don't care if it's a discard or an effect. Either way they activate. But then your point is still terrible because: A. Fableds can't consistently rank 4 and B. HURRR SHIT DISCARD IN THE BP RUN WITH FABLEDS Dark Worlds have better things to do than gimmicky slow cards like this, even if it did work. The deck doesn't Xyz all that much, so you'd be wasting valuable answer space on this shit. Infernities are a good deck. They rarely have problems dropping their hand unless they have monsters out the ass. If they have monsters out the ass, then they're not making 1 R4, much less 2. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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