-kyo- Posted October 29, 2014 Report Share Posted October 29, 2014 Wyrm/Synchro/Effect 1 Tuner + 1 or more non-Tuner monsters If this card is Synchro Summoned: You can apply these effects, based on the monster card type (Normal, Effect or Pendulum) of the non-Tuner monsters used for the Synchro Summon of this card, and resolve in sequence. ● Normal Monster: This turn, it is unaffected by other card effects. ● Effect Monster: Target 1 other face-up card on the field; negate its effects. ● Pendulum Monster: Take control of 1 monster your opponent controls (their choice), but it cannot attack this turn. please discuss Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maeriberii Haan Posted October 29, 2014 Report Share Posted October 29, 2014 One of the best Level 6 generic synchro today, though that's not really saying much. That pendulum effect has a lot of potential tho. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(GigaDrillBreaker) Posted October 29, 2014 Report Share Posted October 29, 2014 One of the best Level 6 generic synchro today, though that's not really saying much. That pendulum effect has a lot of potential tho. I feel like this card is occasionally outclassed by Vulcan's removal, but yeah. Just wait until they release a pendulum tuner. Then things will get dumb. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maeriberii Haan Posted October 29, 2014 Report Share Posted October 29, 2014 Pendulum tuner sounds like a completely horrible idea, balance-wise tbh. Then again, that sounds inevitable so shrug. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spinny Posted October 29, 2014 Report Share Posted October 29, 2014 I feel like this card is occasionally outclassed by Vulcan's removal, but yeah. Just wait until they release a pendulum tuner. Then things will get dumb. just w8 until we get a level 2 pedulum tuner that is also a normal type..... EDIT: Hang on this needs the non-tuner, hello GUB and dark horn hunter >:O Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darj Posted October 29, 2014 Report Share Posted October 29, 2014 My question was answered: it can trigger 2 effects when using a Pendulum as material, as it is also a Normal/Effect Monster. I find this card's artwork beautiful for some reason. Its color scheme reminds me of Dragon Knight Felgrand. As a generic Synchro6, it doesn't look better than Goyo, Vulcan or even Powered Inzektron, of course except when using Pendulum monsters as material. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
玄魔の王 Posted October 29, 2014 Report Share Posted October 29, 2014 Any Chance I can get a Normal Yang Zing? No? K thx bai. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pchi Posted October 29, 2014 Report Share Posted October 29, 2014 Is there any way to abuse its second effect with your own cards? Also, don't forget that Tokens are treated as Normal Monsters, so theremight be some potential for them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Timeline15 Posted October 29, 2014 Report Share Posted October 29, 2014 Well this card seems nice. Cool to nee another old monster get a wyrm form, and the effect is pretty good too. I tend to use dragunitys (dragunities?), so a level 6 synchro is sort of the go-to summon any given turn, and this seems like a nice one, as I like to keep it to dragons only, hence my not just using goyo instead. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toffee. Posted October 29, 2014 Report Share Posted October 29, 2014 They went with the Level 6? K. The Normal effect is neat. The Effect, effect is... Odd. I like the permanent negation, though. The Pendulum effect... Aside from it being the Opponent's choice, that is still pretty damn incredible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slinky Posted October 29, 2014 Report Share Posted October 29, 2014 So, if you use 2 pendulums, can it steal 2? Awkward wording is awkward. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darj Posted October 29, 2014 Report Share Posted October 29, 2014 I would say you can only gain each effect once. Otherwise using 2 non-Tuner Normals would be redundant. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slinky Posted October 29, 2014 Report Share Posted October 29, 2014 I would say you can only gain each effect once. Otherwise using 2 non-Tuner Normals would be redundant. Other side of the argument being "Its Konami, things don't make sense with them." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greiga Posted October 29, 2014 Report Share Posted October 29, 2014 Are they going to Metaphyze(?) every DARK Dragon-looking thing? Because if so I want a Metaphyzed Phoenix of the Nephthys. This looks like a cool toy in Lv2 Beasts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darj Posted October 30, 2014 Report Share Posted October 30, 2014 Are they going to Metaphyze(?) every DARK Dragon-looking thing? Because if so I want a Metaphyzed Phoenix of the Nephthys. Most likely only Dragons, rather than DARK counterparts. and who knows if they will only pick LV Dragons (Horus and Armed Dragon). Besides, I don't see how a Winged Beast could evolve into a Wyrm. And it just hit me that this is Horus LV6, not its final form. Now I am curious to know the backstory of Horus: before this card, one could assume it evolved into LV8 and then was turned DARK, but now it seems it somehow was "Metaphized" before reaching its adulthood (so to speak), and apparently it was a temporary transformation. Now that I think about it, something similar happened to Armed Dragon: it was both "DARKified" and metaphized before evolving into LV10. Perhaps Metaphization is part of the evolution process? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greiga Posted October 30, 2014 Report Share Posted October 30, 2014 Well M7 was a Machine and Sombres was a Fairy, and Phoenix lookes more like Wyrm potential then either of them. But I guess if she made them she would have the Wyrm-factor or whatever. And the whole death and rebirth thing fits with existing Wyrm effects. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darj Posted October 30, 2014 Report Share Posted October 30, 2014 Sombre's case is different to a metaphization. She became a Wyrm because of her actions in the DT storyline: after defeating Sophia, both her and Kerykeion ascended or evolved into "Snake Deities", which apparently translates to Wyrm-type monsters. I think that a metaphized Nepthys would be cool, but I just don't see it happening mostly because of its type. A Dragon is closer to a Wyrm than a Winged Beast, also Dracocension/Metaphization implies that only Dragons get to be metaphized. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greiga Posted October 30, 2014 Report Share Posted October 30, 2014 Sombre's case is different to a metaphization. She became a Wyrm because of her actions in the DT storyline: after defeating Sophia, both her and Kerykeion ascended or evolved into "Snake Deities", which apparently translates to Wyrm-type monsters. I think that a metaphized Nepthys would be cool, but I just don't see it happening mostly because of its type. A Dragon is closer to a Wyrm than a Winged Beast, also Dracocension/Metaphization implies that only Dragons get to be metaphized. Oh wait you're right, I forgot about that card lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blake Posted October 30, 2014 Report Share Posted October 30, 2014 It likely is dark counterpart dragons, moreso than level. You can clearly see DAD (not OG AD) becoming MAD on the continuous spell that sacks dragons for normal wyrms of the same level. Horus being its mid form, not large, is a bit different though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(GigaDrillBreaker) Posted October 30, 2014 Report Share Posted October 30, 2014 Most likely only Dragons, rather than DARK counterparts. and who knows if they will only pick LV Dragons (Horus and Armed Dragon). Besides, I don't see how a Winged Beast could evolve into a Wyrm. And it just hit me that this is Horus LV6, not its final form. Now I am curious to know the backstory of Horus: before this card, one could assume it evolved into LV8 and then was turned DARK, but now it seems it somehow was "Metaphized" before reaching its adulthood (so to speak), and apparently it was a temporary transformation. Now that I think about it, something similar happened to Armed Dragon: it was both "DARKified" and metaphized before evolving into LV10. Perhaps Metaphization is part of the evolution process? Considering Knight Day Grepher is only a level 4, while Dark Lucius goes up to 8, it could have lost some of its power when the darkness was removed from it during metaphyzation, reverting to level 6. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darj Posted October 30, 2014 Report Share Posted October 30, 2014 Considering Knight Day Grepher is only a level 4, while Dark Lucius goes up to 8, it could have lost some of its power when the darkness was removed from it during metaphyzation, reverting to level 6. Problem with that theory, though, is that multiple Grephers exist from parallel universes because of The Path of Destiny and Painful Return, and thus it is unlikely for Knight Day and Lucius to be the same Grepher. In fact, D.D. Encounter potentially confirms they are not the same (because it could have brought Day Knight from the future, but we can't be sure about that, and I doubt that's the case). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(GigaDrillBreaker) Posted October 30, 2014 Report Share Posted October 30, 2014 Problem with that theory, though, is that multiple Grephers exist from parallel universes because of The Path of Destiny and Painful Return, and thus it is unlikely for Knight Day and Lucius to be the same Grepher. In fact, D.D. Encounter potentially confirms they are not the same (because it could have brought Day Knight from the future, but we can't be sure about that, and I doubt that's the case). Alternative theory: this is konami, and they wanted to make an aggressive level 6 synchro. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darj Posted October 30, 2014 Report Share Posted October 30, 2014 Alternative theory: this is konami, and they wanted to make an aggressive level 6 synchro. Yeah, I wouldn't be surprised it that was actually the case. It's not like every card must have a logical backstory or theory behind it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(GigaDrillBreaker) Posted October 30, 2014 Report Share Posted October 30, 2014 Yeah, I wouldn't be surprised it that was actually the case. It's not like every card must have a logical backstory or theory behind it. Yeah. Pre-DT, there was no form of coherent storyline whatsoever, only a few things kindasorta implied by art. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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