Should There be a RotA for Every Type?

[JessicaMuddy]

The title says it all. I think there should be, personally, but like RotA they should be Semi-Limited unless they are for something like Dinosaurs or Sea Serpents or any other types that don't have many monsters.

 

Discuss.

[Rodrigo]

No.

 

That sounds like a pretty bad idea.

[CLG Klavier]

Erm...that's a VERY dumb idea, like very dumb. RotA itself is a pretty dumb card, so yeah.

[Maeriberii Haan]

Moved since it's a better fit in here instead of Card discussions.

 

Anyway, RotAs are a pain in the ass already, even if we only have like...two type-specific ones. Giving more just makes a bigger mess.

 

Granted it does seem that all types deserves it to be fair, but then we can argue that about a lot of other type specific supports so yeah.

[JessicaMuddy]

No.

 

That sounds like a pretty bad idea.

Why? Warriors are one of the most supported Types and I think other types are honestly more deserving of these types of cards.

[CLG Klavier]

Let's start with the fact RotA itself shouldn't exist. As happy as I am for it to be @3, since it buffs Noble Knights like hell, it really shouldn't be unlimited. Albeit, lots of archetypes get specific RotAs for themselves, so making more generic one is really silly.

[Rodrigo]

Why? Warriors are one of the most supported Types and I think other types are honestly more deserving of these types of cards.

 

Why would you power creep every type? Just because one of the types is power creeped?

[JessicaMuddy]

Why would you power creep every type? Just because one of the types is power creeped?

Yeah, I think you have made your point. RotAs for every type is not a good idea.

[Trebuchet MS]

"When everyone is power-creeped, nobody is?"

 

Well, look where that mentality got us.

[~British Soul~]

This definitely sounds like a bad idea. For example, I do NOT want a generic Dragon RoTA.

[Maeriberii Haan]

Let's see.

 

A Spellcaster or Machine-type rota pretty much screams Shaddolls and Qliphorts.

 

Sea-serpent or fish Rota makes mermail/atlantean more consistent in all their shenanigans

 

I'll dare say CBs for Beast RotA, since hey, Pegasus is a broken card lol

 

Pyro RotA might...idk, it definitely makes volcanics more consistent lol

 

Fiend RotA....let's not go there. Same case with Fairy.

 

Psychic and Thunder Rota sounds cute.

 

Wyrm Rota...lolmorefirstturnjiaotu

 

Dragon RotA just screams no, but they already have Shrine to dump stuff and half of their things are either high level or wants to be in grave. But then you have the mini chaos dragons and debris.

 

Reptile RotA...uh, idk.

 

Aqua RotA, not sure of its targets atm.

 

Winged-Beast RotA...Harpies? eh

 

Dinosaur already has a better RotA so yeah.

 

Not all types deserves RotA, but really, giving RotAs is a bad idea since it'll just make future strategies more consistent, including the broken ones. RotA is not necessarily a broken card, but cards like that helps the consistency of broken decks.

[Trebuchet MS]

My definition of RotA would be "searches LV4 or lower (Type)".

 

Reptile RotA exists in the form of King Feral Imp. Though it's a form of super-RotA in that it cares not about Level.

 

Machine RotA is in the form of Geargigant X. Also can pull out Machines from the Graveyard. Qliphorts are all illegible for a Machine RotA unless it's customized to fit their Level range.

[Maeriberii Haan]

Oh right, missed that point about Qlip.

 

Personally, my definition of RotA is a Spell that searches monster straightly without any hassles. Shien Smoke Signal, RotA, etc. Tenki and Tuning counts too, I guess.

 

the thing with GGX and King is that you need to invest something first before you search. So it's different from the no-investment consistency boosts that RotAs give.

[JessicaMuddy]

My definition of RotA would be "searches LV4 or lower (Type)".

Also my definition of RotA.

[Yemachu]

A "Reinforcement of the Army" for Spellcaster-Types seems like a really bad idea: "Exodia the Forbidden".

[JessicaMuddy]

A "Reinforcement of the Army" for Spellcaster-Types seems like a really bad idea: "Exodia the Forbidden".

Ah yes, good point. Also possibly for Timegazer or something.

[Darj]

A ROTA for every type, BUT all of them Limited doesn't look like a bad idea actually. In a way, it would reward multi-type decks with deck thinning.

 

Still, a Spellcaster ROTA would still be a problem because Exodia. Actually, I suspect Exodia is part of the reason Konami has not made a Spellcaster ROTA yet; they did make Spellbook Star Hall, but its' not like you can splash it in non-Spellbook decks.

[Toffee.]

A Spellcaster or Machine-type rota pretty much screams Shaddolls and Qliphorts.

Machines could MAYBE get away with one, though, if it has a few strings attached to it.
I mean, as long as it doesn't search for any EARTH monsters...
 

Sea-serpent or fish Rota makes mermail/atlantean more consistent in all their shenanigans

Aside from Dragoons being@1, yea, Mermails being able to do things again would be an issue.
 

I'll dare say CBs for Beast RotA, since hey, Pegasus is a broken card lol

Oh how I'd fucking love a Beast-Type RotA....
Scraps have Chimera/Beast/etc
Tanuukis; The whole deck
Random stuff here and there would also get a boost
 

Pyro RotA might...idk, it definitely makes volcanics more consistent lol

Pyro-Type, for all intensive purposes, doesn't exist.
 

Psychic and Thunder Rota sounds cute.

Thunders have Batteryman AAA/9-Volt going for them, as well as Hunders. So that one is up for debate.
Psychic RotA would be amusing though.
 

Reptile RotA...uh, idk.

Reptile searcher would be pro, and make Kagetokage more of a thing.

[Blake]

Thunder has Sea Horse.

So at best it's extra copies of Sea Horse, Denkou Sekka, Oni-Raigeki, and so on , at worst extra copies of 9V/Ma/Pa/etc.

Seems like a terrible idea, and psychic already has E-tele for mostly the same niche.

[Toffee.]

Thunder has Sea Horse.

I was implying that, but I honestly forgot to mention it.

[Love of Ghibli]

Let's see.

 

 

Fiend RotA....let's not go there. Same case with Fairy.

 

Winged-Beast RotA...Harpies? eh

 

Not all types deserves RotA, but really, giving RotAs is a bad idea since it'll just make future strategies more consistent, including the broken ones. RotA is not necessarily a broken card, but cards like that helps the consistency of broken decks.

I guess Plant RotA is out of the question.

 

And Winged beast RotA makes Blackwings more interesting or make the one monster Raid Raptor more searchable. lol

Though curious what Lvl 4 or lower fairy is that bad? *remembers Honest is currently not searchable*

[Slinky]

Beast-type rota

yes plz

 

make Sheratan and Leonis a little bit better.

 

would like a fairy-type for Sombres and fluffals, but Seraphs exist and everything.

Would also like a spellcaster for Algiedi, but nope, Exodia.

 

Dinosaurs/Reptiles/Warriors/Machines/Beast-Warriors have one.

Winged-Beasts have a... uh.. semi one. It kinda counts, but then it doesn't because its also super specific.

[Blake]

I'd also like to point out that this actually just supports stupid themes in nearly every type.

Rocks makes it copies 4-6 of diamond core in rock stun, as well as a RotA for an OTK deck with a stratos that's rock, giving the deck 6 RotA copies, 3 of which search the Fusion spell and the other searches the searcher.

Fairy has Melodious, Fluffals, Bountiful Artemis, Honest... Not a lot really, but a lot of scary concepts.

Already went over thunder

lol fiends and dragons

Psychic has E-Tele

Wyrm just makes Jiaotu more consistent atm, which is a no.

warriors have it and it is absurd

Beast Warriors have it

Beast is the most benign I think, bar Reptile, but still doesn't make it good design. Especially not the latter, come to think of it, as it makes the reptile engine more efficient.

Dinos have it, but lack good cards for it. Still not fair conceptually.

Zombie fuck no that's absurd between zombie master, Mezuki, and Unizombie.

Insect... Inzektors.

Spellcaster is a boost to Dolls and Nekroz, and that's just the beginning

Machine seems like a very poor idea down the road, and Karakuri too.

Pyro makes Volcanics a lot more consistent and... Gem-Knights?

Aqua would apply to mermails but I don't remember who the aquas are

Same for fish and Sea Serpent, though not so much for the latter given the serpents are big. Then you remember Atlantans.

Winged Beasts are getting RR dumb stuff for sure, Harpies are not a fair concept to give this to, and that's it.

I think I covered every type, bar Divine Beast.

[Darj]

For Aquas there are Frogs and its variants (mainly Frognarchs), for whatever is that worth.

 

I don't think you can really compare E-Tele with a Psychic ROTA. Not being able to pick Level4s is a noticeable difference, and there should be some Psychics that would prefer to be added to the hand than Special Summoned straight on the field and then banished if you failed to use them that turn. Of course, having both E-Tele AND a Psychic ROTA would be dangerous, so I understand why they shouldn't get the latter.

 

And yeah, I also wish for a Beast-Type ROTA. So many decks and cards would benefit from it.

[Love of Ghibli]

I'd also like to point out that this actually just supports stupid themes in nearly every type.

Rocks makes it copies 4-6 of diamond core in rock stun, as well as a RotA for an OTK deck with a stratos that's rock, giving the deck 6 RotA copies, 3 of which search the Fusion spell and the other searches the searcher.

Fairy has Melodious, Fluffals, Bountiful Artemis, Honest... Not a lot really, but a lot of scary concepts.

Already went over thunder

lol fiends and dragons

Psychic has E-Tele

Wyrm just makes Jiaotu more consistent atm, which is a no.

warriors have it and it is absurd

Beast Warriors have it

Beast is the most benign I think, bar Reptile, but still doesn't make it good design. Especially not the latter, come to think of it, as it makes the reptile engine more efficient.

Dinos have it, but lack good cards for it. Still not fair conceptually.

Zombie f*** no that's absurd between zombie master, Mezuki, and Unizombie.

Insect... Inzektors.

Spellcaster is a boost to Dolls and Nekroz, and that's just the beginning

Machine seems like a very poor idea down the road, and Karakuri too.

Pyro makes Volcanics a lot more consistent and... Gem-Knights?

Aqua would apply to mermails but I don't remember who the aquas are

Same for fish and Sea Serpent, though not so much for the latter given the serpents are big. Then you remember Atlantans.

Winged Beasts are getting RR dumb stuff for sure, Harpies are not a fair concept to give this to, and that's it.

I think I covered every type, bar Divine Beast.

Plants aren't mentioned...though searching for lonefire is probably not a good thing