YGO vs/or/and MTG

[cr47t]

Just a discuss topic about Yugioh and MTG. Discuss your opinions on the two, your preferences, your experiences, etc.

Edit/note: I will sometimes post here too, sometimes.

[宇佐見 蓮子@C94]

YGO will forever be better than MTG to me because I will never ever in the history of anything ever play MTG.

[Spinny]

MTG feels too elitist to me from my experience, everyone at tourney's and stuff are just really big assholes in general. Also, there is no DN equivelant for it other than cockatrice which is a pain to use. Most people on cockatrice are really nice tho.

YGO is just fun and doesn't take itself that seriously.

[Resident Fascist]

MTG feels too elitist to me from my experience, everyone at tourney's and stuff are just really big assholes in general. Also, there is no DN equivelant for it other than cockatrice which is a pain to use. Most people on cockatrice are really nice tho.

YGO is just fun and doesn't take itself that seriously.

 

I'm not sure what the playerbase has to do with the game itself. The game itself is incredibly solid, even if I do find it extremely uninteresting for some reason. Magic's primary problem is that it is so expensive and is really difficult to get into because of that and an enormous roster of cards that take forever to really learn what's good if you intend on playing anything other than Standard, which has the complete opposite problem of being too boxed in and controlled.

 

 That being said, Magic's combat mechanics put me off the game immensely when I tried it, so there's that. The correct answer is Hearthstone.

[ihop]

I've always kinda wanted to get into MTG but I've always been held back by the same thing that means I don't play any other card games than Yugioh which is that I think it'd distract me from Yugioh. I'm actually (fairly) good at Yugioh, I have an established collection and spend plenty of time on it already, I know a lot of things about the game and I have a lot of contacts and people to test with and talk to about the game. Getting into any other card game would distract me, I don't like playing card games online so I'd have to spend money on playing it IRL which means I have less spending power for Yugioh, I am naturally competitive so would have to spend lots of time actually getting good at MTG and learning it and I think I'd just end up being mediocre at 2 games rather than good at 1. My other concern with MTG is that our local MTG community is mainly 25-year olds who are content to sit around all day discussing video games and anime, neither of which I am particularly into, whereas the Yugioh community has more people my age and people I would actually want to be with outside of playing card games.

[Spinny]

I'm not sure what the playerbase has to do with the game itself. The game itself is incredibly solid, even if I do find it extremely uninteresting for some reason. Magic's primary problem is that it is so expensive and is really difficult to get into because of that and an enormous roster of cards that take forever to really learn what's good if you intend on playing anything other than Standard, which has the complete opposite problem of being too boxed in and controlled.
 
 That being said, Magic's combat mechanics put me off the game immensely when I tried it, so there's that. The correct answer is Hearthstone.

Yeah, that's what I meant by elitist, the player base thing is why I don't play it a lot IRL.

[CLG Klavier]

Two completly different games, question without an answer, like all questions along those lines.

 

Next.

[ihop]

(for the record, I don't think the general MTG playerbase is any more "elitist" than the Yugioh playerbase, and do not actually think that either playerbase is particularly elitist)

[Spinny]

Two completly different games, question without an answer, like all questions along those lines.
 
Next.

Preferences and experiences and opinions tho, not really seriously comparing them both.

[Rodrigo]

You know which game is better?

 

The one you have the most fun with.

[Resident Fascist]

Preferences and experiences and opinions tho, not really seriously comparing them both.

 

Klavier actually does have a point here so I'll back him and saying comparing a resourceless card game to a resourced card game is rather a pointless comparison. You'll never reach a conclusion as you're comparing apples to oranges and anything talking about personal experience turns into a pissing fight of complains about the community.

[Mutant Monster RAEG-HAPYP]

Personally, I like both. However, design-wise and lore-wise, I find MTG to be vastly superior to YGO. Gameplay-wise....not sure really. 

 

And yeah, Klav does have a point.

[ihop]

Rod's right, but the intention of this thread is not to objectively compare Yugioh and MTG. It's asking for individuals' opinions on which game is better and it is absolutely fine to have an opinion of which is better for whatever reason. Let's not derail a good and interesting topic in the fear of someone taking it too far.

[Spinny]

Klavier actually does have a point here so I'll back him and saying comparing a resourceless card game to a resourced card game is rather a pointless comparison as you'll never reach a conclusion as you're comparing apples to oranges and anything talking about personal experience turns into a pissing fight of complains about the community.

Well I'm not exactly disagreeing with you or klavier, but there is still the preferences and stuff.

You know which game is better?
 
The one you have the most fun with.

Only reason I'm not repping this is cos I've reached my limit, but yeah, I think yugioh is a bit more fun for me.

[Mutant Monster RAEG-HAPYP]

Well I'm not exactly disagreeing with you or klavier, but there is still the preferences and stuff.
Only reason I'm not repping this is cos I've reached my limit, but yeah, I think yugioh is a bit more fun for me.

 

Some people have more fun playing YGO. Some people have more fun playing MTG. That's understandable. Neither game is inherently bad.

 

Although I rarely play TCGs, I think the most fun I've actually had was from a different game that was neither YGO nor MTG. However, I have had fun playing those two as well.

[LordCowCowCowCowCowCowCowCow]

Okay let me spin you a tale. Well, not really a tale but...anywho.

 

This starts for me with my childhood. For many of you I'm sure YGO was your childhood. Mine wasn't. Well, it was, but it wasn't a big part.

See, my mom owned a Hobby Shop, one that had premier store status with Wizards (meaning we were the main store of out area, we even got to do official tournaments and one had a Black Lotus as a prize).

So I played a lot of card games. YGO, Pokemon a bit, lesser known things like the Harry Potter TCG and Warlords (<3). But mostly was MtG. Lot of people came in for MtG and I started playing it when I was six.

 

Over the years it stuck with me because of this, and because those around me, including my siblings, played it. Plus it just felt right to me. It was the most fun I've had and it was the most consistently interesting game.

I do enjoy other TCGs but not nearly as much. I also find that, being casual like I am, I'm able to do more fun decks and have more fun games with MtG than I would with any other game. I never really got that with YGO.

 

Oh and for playing it, you can just check out Cockatrice and play it online for free. :3

[.Rai]

From a sheer design point of view, MtG wins by light years.

You know which game is better?
 
The one you have the most fun with.

But, at the end of the day, this is the most objective fact. Design doesn't really mean anything if you don't like a game.

[bury the year]

I've had terrible experience with YGO players. At the only prerelease I ever went to (Shadow of Infinity, I think?) One kid tried to make his dad steal the Uria I pulled, and another kid tried to run off with my binder. So yeah, I quit soon after that. The entire experience was miserable. Plus, the only person who plays YGO in my group of card-playing friends is also a whiny little shit who I hate to associate with otherwise.

That said, the lore behind MTG for me is a lot more complex and engaging, which is why I got into it in the first place. The resource system also does a better job of balancing the game, and a) staves off the power creep and b) prevents the "banning treadmill" from being a thing. Also, the MTG players I've met have all been orders more mature than YGO players ever were.

MTG >>> YGO in my book.

[Trebuchet MS]

I personally prefer MtG due to the greater accommodation for more different ways to play it.

 

Yugioh may have had rules for Tag Duels (and even those tend to vary a little) but when you have an odd number of players or want a free-for-all, you'd need to resort to some house rules which can botch up how certain cards work for you. Not to mention some cards in Yugioh are balanced around the standard 2-player-8000-LP game mode and can accidentally break under changed conditions (like Ancient Leaf).

 

MtG has cards that are clearer on how they'd operate in multiplayer modes - e.g. "target opponent" vs "each opponent" - which makes them a little more conducive for games involving more than 2 players. At the same time, more formats means that there's bound to be a place for certain cards that don't perform very well in Standard/Modern otherwise. There are, as always, a few exceptions to these, but those have a tendency to not be seen very often.

[Yellow Jacket]

I'm going to have to go with with YGO. MTG just seems too complicated and competitive for my taste, of course YGO has its share too(talking to you meta players). As for the art YGO varies, you have cards like Prophecy Destroyer that looks like MTG but then you have cards like Performapal Hip Hippo that seems to remind me of Pokemon. And as far as I know MTG doesn't have "face" cards like Blue-Eyes White Dragon or Dark Magician. Overall I'm more comfortable with YGO.

[Fusion X. Denver]

I tried playing Magic with my friends over the past couple years, but it ultimately didn't catch my interest. It's a good game, just not for me.

As for Yugioh, I grew up playing it and my time on here has sorta-kinda kept me in the loop as far as the game's development.

 

From my experiences, MtG seems to be the better game, but I like Yugioh a lot more.

[Azure Wolf]

Like its been said its personal preference but MtG is the better game overall but Yugioh has moments on online play which make it so much more entertaining to play.

 

I play Yugioh more than Magic as I can play it easier, be it online or IRL. That and I have been playing it longer almost 11 years vs 3 years for MtG. I did pick Magic up quicker and actually got confused when I started playing Yugioh right after by applying MtG battle rules to Yugioh, but that was fun.

[Simping For Hina]

MtG doesn't censor art like Konami does. That's all that really matters.

[Ryusei the Morning Star]

Card Fight Vanguard....

nuff said

[Yellow Jacket]

Personally I don't care if they censor the cards(I mean I like boobs as much as the next guy) but I like the variety of the styling of the cards. I run serious cards like the Ancient Gear but I run goofy lookin things like the Dustons. Besides, Ancient Gear Golem FTW!!!!!