Aerion Brightflame Posted May 30, 2015 Report Share Posted May 30, 2015 Lets talk about Love. Okay, I should probably be more specific, since I doubt I could think of a more generic topic if I tried whilst full sober. Essentially I think love in it's varying forms shapes everyone into who they are. Be it family, friends, lovers, or even objects and pets, all of it has a massive impact on our lives, and I doubt any of us would truly be who we are with or without it's influence as the case may be. So talk about your expierences with it and what you think of it. And I mean any kind of love. Anything or anyone who you have loved in a fashion that has shaped who you are, please share. Because that's what these threads are about to me; sharing more about who we truly are. Not who we pretend to be on this forum. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fusion X. Denver Posted May 30, 2015 Report Share Posted May 30, 2015 So fun fact, this is the 3rd Love thread within the span of a year or so. Which is fine, there's a sizable amount of time between each of the topics. In the first thread, I professed my undying love for an old friend of mine. In the second thread, I was over all of that. And now as this thread comes around, I find myself liking her again. I don't think I can write another essay about her right now, but I feel confident enough to ask her out sometime this summer. Love's a funny thing. I look forward to seeing where I and other people are at in the fourth thread, whenever that will be. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thar Posted May 30, 2015 Report Share Posted May 30, 2015 I'm not the "romantic" type of lover. I'd much rather love someone as a friend or as a person. My love towards celebrities/fictional characters is a different story. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LordCowCowCowCowCowCowCowCow Posted May 30, 2015 Report Share Posted May 30, 2015 I love love, and I'm f***ing full of it. I love like, everyone in some way. You all above me? Love you guys. Cause you are people. And people, while they can be complete asshats and horrible at times, also are always different and unique and have potential. And that's beautiful and I love it. Of course there's more specific loves too. Love of close friends. This is probably the strongest type I have atm. People who I trust and care for greatly. This has varying amounts. Some more than others. But they all matter. There's a small amount of TRULY close friends but that doesn't mean the not as close friends aren't important. Love of pets. This one is separate because I have a strong bond with pets. Always have. They're like a mix of friend and family. Speaking of. Love of family. This isn't strong as it should be. More or less just "They are connected to me so I have fondness for them". Some family crosses over to friends. Love of significant other. This one's tough. Mostly cause the only relationship I've had was...messy. But I do hope to find this kind of love again, and this time do it right. Love of writing. This is likely the one I kinda put above all else, even if that might sound bad I don't mean it like that. But my writing, and the characters I write, are closer to me than most people could possible get. Might be weird but it's just how it is. They're with me always and they always are evolving in my mind. This feels rambly, oh well. I kinda didn't think and just wrote without stopping till now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryusei the Morning Star Posted May 30, 2015 Report Share Posted May 30, 2015 I'm an orphan. My siblings were separated from me after my parents died. They we're weak. They are not successful. Love is a deception that people use to try to gain a foothold of influence over you. The only person who truely "loves" you is yourself as as that narcissistic sounds. I have a daughter. Is it love that I'm happy she'll never meet her father? Is it a lack of "love" that I never felt anything compelling in any relationship? Love is stratification. Those of value ( either consciously or unconsciously) are ranked. Most value=most love. Stop giving it a fancy name. It's no different than realizing gold is more valuable than shit Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blake Posted May 30, 2015 Report Share Posted May 30, 2015 Love is devotion and trust. All kinds of love. True romantic love is selflessness. Sure, the infatuation can feel wonderful, but it's about the other person. How you want to see them happy. How you want to help then. How you want to walk with them. How that person shines to you. It's devotion to that person. It's about putting their needs before your own. Honestly, all love is supposed to be based in that. Love is a connection you share with someone. A devotion to that person. Not a feeling they give you. "In love" is not love. It's infatuation. It's not the same as the other kinds of love. Love can make you feel safe. Make you feel wanted. Make you feel needed. But that's not the core of it. That's the feeling of being loved, not giving love. Giving love is to make someone feel those things, be it a platonic, familial, or romantic love. You can argue that everything comes back to self-pleasing, sure. But if you're giving yourself to another, does it really matter? Your time, your energy, your heart, given to another human being. Someone who could tear you apart if they desired. But you trust them. You're devoted.And divorce is higher than ever? That's because people don't want to put the effort in, or jump in over the feelings. The exhilaration. People don't want to give themselves away, don't want to be devoted, don't want to be vulnerable. And that's understandable. But true love exists, and it will always exist, regardless of how people bastardize it. "Love is patient, love is kind. It does not envy, it does not boast, it is not proud. It does not dishonor others, it is not self-seeking, it is not easily angered, it keeps no record of wrongs. Love does not delight in evil but rejoices with the truth. It always protects, always trusts, always hopes, always perseveres. Love never fails."Love is to give warmth. To give shelter from the storm. To give companionship, a shoulder. Love is devotion, love is time, love is trust, love is selflessness. Even should you be self-serving in a corner of your heart, love is giving yourself away. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elijah~ Posted May 30, 2015 Report Share Posted May 30, 2015 I actually have a lot of love for a close friend of mine. He has helped me through a lot of obstacles in life and has made me realize a more a positive perspective on life. He showed me that all I had to do was just be myself and I will obtain friends. And that took a lot of time to realize. I thought that if I hung around with this guy, who I thought was a genuine friend, I would seem cool. And I thought I was. Until someone told me the real truth, after the fact that I stopped talking to the guy I thought was my "friend". They told me that I was a dickrider, which I was, and that was why I had no friends and most likely never will. They also said I was just a background character in life. I tried to ignore this person but they just kept on attacking me with insults. I acted like it didn't bother me but it actually made me feel like shit. But thanks to my friend, he helped me brush past that obstacle and taught me how to just ignore those types of people and not to let people walk all over me like that. And that's why I have lots of love for that close friend of mine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zauls Posted June 4, 2015 Report Share Posted June 4, 2015 For those who say love is about self-pleasing, that is really half of the point of it. The feeling you get when you completely and selflessly devote yourself to a person and put their happiness before yours is so rewarding and uplifting and there is absolutely nothing wrong with that. The greatest gift we can get in this life is the gift of giving (I actually think that's from the Bible, but it still stands true). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simping For Hina Posted June 4, 2015 Report Share Posted June 4, 2015 Honestly, I have only been in love once and I am in no way the person to be talking about it, but I really think that the concept of love isn't and cannot be established because of how everyone feels something different with it and each love is different as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dad Posted June 4, 2015 Report Share Posted June 4, 2015 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HEXWRTEbj1I Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryusei the Morning Star Posted June 4, 2015 Report Share Posted June 4, 2015 Love can also be a curse Black. It feels amazing, and the gradient change of having it ripped away from you is a torment not worth having Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maeriberii Haan Posted June 4, 2015 Report Share Posted June 4, 2015 Love can also be a curse Black. It feels amazing, and the gradient change of having it ripped away from you is a torment not worth having On the other hand, the feeling of keeping it is soooooooo damn worth the risk. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryusei the Morning Star Posted June 4, 2015 Report Share Posted June 4, 2015 On the other hand, the feeling of keeping it is soooooooo damn worth the risk. Everything burn, Everything Dies, Everything turns to ash and naught. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mitchermitcher Posted June 4, 2015 Report Share Posted June 4, 2015 so why not treasure the love while it's still alive and burning bright? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maeriberii Haan Posted June 4, 2015 Report Share Posted June 4, 2015 Everything burn, Everything Dies, Everything turns to ash and naught. But in the middle of the burnt ashes, you can found a sprout surviving, growing using the ashes around it to be a big tree one day. Love hurts, but not getting loved hurts more. Even if one has a mindset of living in solitude, no matter how strong their mindset is, one day you'll find out that love is something irreplaceable~ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cosmo. Posted June 4, 2015 Report Share Posted June 4, 2015 Everything burn, Everything Dies, Everything turns to ash and naught. But in the middle of the burnt ashes, you can found a sprout surviving, growing using the ashes around it to be a big tree one day. Love hurts, but not getting loved hurts more. Even if one has a mindset of living in solitude, no matter how strong their mindset is, one day you'll find out that love is something irreplaceable~ You should write a poem together, like wow that is some poetic stuff you got there. Getting off topic though ----------------------------- Love is a special thing, it can either be beautiful or painful, like a rose. The worst kind of love is when you can't get loved back, like an impossible crush. That's really painful, because you know that they'll never love you back, but you still love them no matter what. There is also simpler love, like for your favourite food and stuff like that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
~NOiSE~ Posted June 4, 2015 Report Share Posted June 4, 2015 Love really isn't complicated. It's simply putting someone else's needs above your own with no benefit to you. It should never be confused with passion, which is often the result of lust (not exclusively though). To say that something such as love doesn't exist is bullshit. It's something you do, not something you feel. For those who say love is about self-pleasing, that is really half of the point of it. The feeling you get when you completely and selflessly devote yourself to a person and put their happiness before yours is so rewarding and uplifting and there is absolutely nothing wrong with that. The greatest gift we can get in this life is the gift of giving (I actually think that's from the Bible, but it still stands true). This. It's not love if it's for your own benefit. Love doesn't take, only gives. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Power Armour Posted June 4, 2015 Report Share Posted June 4, 2015 Love is stupid. Handing someone your love is like suspending youself on a tightrope over an active volcano. It's like nuclear power, it can be used for good or evil, and the smart ones stay away from it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
~NOiSE~ Posted June 4, 2015 Report Share Posted June 4, 2015 Love is stupid. Handing someone your love is like suspending youself on a tightrope over an active volcano. It's like nuclear power, it can be used for good or evil, and the smart ones stay away from it. How did you come to believe this? Because I honestly don't understand how anyone can think like that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(GigaDrillBreaker) Posted June 4, 2015 Report Share Posted June 4, 2015 To everyone telling people they are wrong about what love is... That isn't how this shit works. Love is not an objective experience, nor is it always the same. Immediately assuming someone wrong because their definition of such a vague, intentionally undefined concept varies from you own is nothing short of vain. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
~NOiSE~ Posted June 4, 2015 Report Share Posted June 4, 2015 I always thought love was pretty clearly defined. The Hollywood definition that people associate the word with is generally unrealistic. Feeling affection or passion is not a bad thing, but true love is something that requires work and effort. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blake Posted June 4, 2015 Report Share Posted June 4, 2015 I always thought love was pretty clearly defined. The Hollywood definition that people associate the word with is generally unrealistic. Feeling affection or passion is not a bad thing, but true love is something that requires work and effort.This. Love isn't some subjective thing. The applications can be, but "true love" is about devotion, not feelings. You can say you love someone, but that could be you not understanding the difference between affection and wanting tone there for that person. Hollywood has skewed people's standards, but there are still those who know its not about the passion, the magic, whatever. Those can and often do LEAD to love, but that's not love. That'd infatuation and/or lust shining bright. And that's not a bad thing, but it's not what love is. And it is easy to lose faith in it. It takes perseverance to maintain it, and it is not easy at all. It can be easy for a while, but the hard times will, inevitably, come and make it hard. The question is if you love someone enough... If you're devoted to someone enough to push through. With all kinds of love. Familial love comes naturally, as these are people who have been in our lives for most, if not all, of our lives. Some friendships can even grow to this point. In love is variable, but the nature of love boils down to the same for everyone. Romantic love just happens to be stronger than even familial love, which shows how much devotion is really required. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LordCowCowCowCowCowCowCowCow Posted June 4, 2015 Report Share Posted June 4, 2015 Everything burn, Everything Dies, Everything turns to ash and naught. And you seriously wonder why people call you edgy? Anyway. Being perfectly honest I don't think there's really one right way to describe love. As it comes in many forms and can mean something different for everyone. Love it totally subjective and I have no idea how anyone can think that. Like. Fine if that's how you think of it, but I don't agree with claiming your way is the totally correct way. Honestly it bothers me that people would try and force one aspect of love as the only true definition. Feelings are not that easy to define. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blake Posted June 4, 2015 Report Share Posted June 4, 2015 And you seriously wonder why people call you edgy? Anyway. Being perfectly honest I don't think there's really one right way to describe love. As it comes in many forms and can mean something different for everyone. Love it totally subjective and I have no idea how anyone can think that. Like. Fine if that's how you think of it, but I don't agree with claiming your way is the totally correct way. Honestly it bothers me that people would try and force one aspect of love as the only true definition. Feelings are not that easy to define. Your last line sums it all up. Love is not a feeling. Love is a state of being. Emotions can be attached, for sure, but to call love a feeling degrades it, and really only serves as a reason for people to turn a blind eye to what "true love" is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rodrigo Posted June 4, 2015 Report Share Posted June 4, 2015 Love is devotion, eh? Then I'm glad I chose to love my MtG cards collection. It's been 3 years and the feeling keeps growing stronger! Also never had any disappointment, my cards have always made me feel great. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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