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Traptrix Raffelisia (Confirmed TCG for BOSH)


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Unsure about this in EMem.

 

If traps are played at all this is already competing with Notice (with or without Ariadne). The redeeming factor is that Time-Space is amazing vs Kozmo, the projected "awful" matchup, but you could argue that Notice applies the same pressure if not better in more situations (that is, Notice is less awful in the mirror, as conductor or joker Partnaga are outs to Rafflessia). I don't see treacherous being played if Kozmo and Majespecter are competing.

 

How would this compare to a combination of boards like Giant Hand + Infinity? Giant Hand + Durendal? Dweller + Hand? I haven't thought much of it since the above requires context as to why you are making them in the first place (Dweller would make more sense vs Atlantean for example). For that I'd need some more testing in spite of an upcoming banlist

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Unsure about this in EMem.

 

If traps are played at all this is already competing with Notice (with or without Ariadne). The redeeming factor is that Time-Space is amazing vs Kozmo, the projected "awful" matchup, but you could argue that Notice applies the same pressure if not better in more situations (that is, Notice is less awful in the mirror, as conductor or joker Partnaga are outs to Rafflessia). I don't see treacherous being played if Kozmo and Majespecter are competing.

 

How would this compare to a combination of boards like Giant Hand + Infinity? Giant Hand + Durendal? Dweller + Hand? I haven't thought much of it since the above requires context as to why you are making them in the first place (Dweller would make more sense vs Atlantean for example). For that I'd need some more testing in spite of an upcoming banlist

Well, It's not like many people have Giant Hand, so that's a non-factor here.

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Yeah, this is not a good card TCG side, for sure.

 

The only decks that can use it to full effect are Performapal and/or Performage variants, but this arrives in the same set as Ariadne. Assuming we get Sorcerer, for the former, of course. i swear one day it will happen

 

I guess Tellars can make her, too, but that seems like just a decent use, and only really early.

 

Ariadne's offers, while not as toolboxable, are much more potent and generic. With the exception of Traptrix Trap Hole Nightmare, Raff just can't compete. You can't waste too much space on backrow or your brick, and you can't run too little or Ariadne will dry up too soon and make her dead. Ariadne's just better at synergizing, overall, especialyl when you consider that each variant has additional ways to trigger her, in addition to Ignister.

 

So yeah, doubtful that she'll be the important card she was in the OCG, especially considering how, iirc, she's even fallen from grace there. Even before BOSH.

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So yeah, doubtful that she'll be the important card she was in the OCG, especially considering how, iirc, she's even fallen from grace there. Even before BOSH.

Fallen from grave is kinda overdoing it.

 

It's just those awkward times when you draw treacherous. I think it's still quite a good XYZ that just no longer has room in m&m's

 

But something like Tellars can really benefit from it to deal with Nekroz of Trishula and the Danko (as you noted)

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Yeah, this is not a good card TCG side, for sure.

 

The only decks that can use it to full effect are Performapal and/or Performage variants, but this arrives in the same set as Ariadne. Assuming we get Sorcerer, for the former, of course. i swear one day it will happen

 

I guess Tellars can make her, too, but that seems like just a decent use, and only really early.

 

Ariadne's offers, while not as toolboxable, are much more potent and generic. With the exception of Traptrix Trap Hole Nightmare, Raff just can't compete. You can't waste too much space on backrow or your brick, and you can't run too little or Ariadne will dry up too soon and make her dead. Ariadne's just better at synergizing, overall, especialyl when you consider that each variant has additional ways to trigger her, in addition to Ignister.

 

So yeah, doubtful that she'll be the important card she was in the OCG, especially considering how, iirc, she's even fallen from grace there. Even before BOSH.

 

ehh, I'd argue it just creeps into the spectrum of "good". Yeah, it looks to be outclassed in Pepe but it's a damn good generic card for all kinds of things. Aside from Tellars, which might well be its best use since it's a much better turn 1 play than Tsukuyomi and really justifies playing Instant Fusion in the deck, I've been testing it with a friend in Lightsworn with a single Treacherous and it's very good at backing up fields and dealing with things that would otherwise out Minerva/do the 6/7k damage necessary to OTK Lightsworn, as well as being half-decent offensively just as a way to pop 2 monsters.

 

I don't think it'll be anything like a meta-dominating force but I do think it'll see play and be effective in the instances it sees play. I don't really know how important it actually was in OCG, but it's definitely going to be relevant over here.

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ehh, I'd argue it just creeps into the spectrum of "good". Yeah, it looks to be outclassed in Pepe but it's a damn good generic card for all kinds of things. Aside from Tellars, which might well be its best use since it's a much better turn 1 play than Tsukuyomi and really justifies playing Instant Fusion in the deck, I've been testing it with a friend in Lightsworn with a single Treacherous and it's very good at backing up fields and dealing with things that would otherwise out Minerva/do the 6/7k damage necessary to OTK Lightsworn, as well as being half-decent offensively just as a way to pop 2 monsters.

 

I don't think it'll be anything like a meta-dominating force but I do think it'll see play and be effective in the instances it sees play. I don't really know how important it actually was in OCG, but it's definitely going to be relevant over here.

That's more what I was getting at, just didn't phrase it quite right.

 

It's not bad generically, but it definitely won't reshape the game. I feel like it's high decent/fairly good, just not what people would expect from it, given what happened in OCG land.

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ehh, I'd argue it just creeps into the spectrum of "good". Yeah, it looks to be outclassed in Pepe but it's a damn good generic card for all kinds of things. Aside from Tellars, which might well be its best use since it's a much better turn 1 play than Tsukuyomi and really justifies playing Instant Fusion in the deck, I've been testing it with a friend in Lightsworn with a single Treacherous and it's very good at backing up fields and dealing with things that would otherwise out Minerva/do the 6/7k damage necessary to OTK Lightsworn, as well as being half-decent offensively just as a way to pop 2 monsters.

 

I don't think it'll be anything like a meta-dominating force but I do think it'll see play and be effective in the instances it sees play. I don't really know how important it actually was in OCG, but it's definitely going to be relevant over here.

It SAW play in OCG, when Ptolo, Shock, Raff was a conceivable play and you needed outs to Dark Law fast, it's losing popularity due to BA and Monarch's giving 0 fucks

 

It won't see much play in TCG like black said IMO since the counter trap build does the same thing, but allows for more freedom 

 

Still a great card, but not amazing as people once thought it was OCG side.

 

Now if HAT ever becomes a deck again, then we've got something to talk about. What it is good with is being an amazing Tellar T1 play and out to Denko. Unk, send Danny, IF, Noden, get back Danny, rafflesia, and leave one tellar on field for Nova. Now Denko can't do jack sheet vs you.

 

TD:LR

 

It's great, but not in m&m's

 

 

What the funk is pepe?

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