-kyo- Posted August 16, 2016 Report Share Posted August 16, 2016 RATE-JP005 SR-OMKガム Speedroid OMK GumLevel 1 WIND Machine-Type Tuner Effect MonsterATK 0DEF 800(1) During the Battle Phase, if you take damage: You can Special Summon this card from your hand.(2) During the Battle Phase that this card is Special Summoned by its own effect, you can: Immediately after this effect resolves, Synchro Summon using only WIND monsters you control, including this card.(3) If this card is sent to the Graveyard as a Synchro Material: You can send the top card of your Deck to the Graveyard, and if it is a “Speedroid” monster, the monster Synchro Summoned using this card gains 1000 ATK. RATE-JP008 WW-スノウ・ベル Wind Witch – Snow BellLevel 1 WIND Spellcaster-Type Tuner Effect MonsterATK 100DEF 100(1) If you control 2 or more WIND monsters and do not control any non-WIND monsters: You can activate this effect; Special Summon this card from your hand.(2) If you Synchro Summon a WIND Synchro Monster using this card as Synchro Material, it cannot be destroyed by your opponent’s card effects.RATE-JP043 WW-ウィンター・ベル Wind Witch – Winter BellLevel 7 WIND Spellcaster-Type Synchro Effect MonsterATK 2400DEF 2000Synchro Materials: 1 Tuner + 1 or more non-Tuner WIND monstersYou can only use each effect of “Wind Witch – Winter Bell” once per turn.(1) You can target 1 “Wind Witch” monster in your Graveyard; inflict 200 damage x its Level to your opponent.(2) During the Battle Phase: You can target 1 “Wind Witch” monster you control; Special Summon 1 monster with an equal or lower Level from your hand, but it cannot attack during this turn. https://ygorganization.com/v-jump-october-2016-booster-pack-news/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Althemia Posted August 16, 2016 Report Share Posted August 16, 2016 snow bell making the super junked up crystal wings out of nowhere or something Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Highlander Posted August 16, 2016 Report Share Posted August 16, 2016 I am not sure, would GUM be able to sync with a monster, which would be destroyed via that battle ? (I assume not, however it would be amazing if it would turn out I am wrong)Snow Bell is better than expected , same with Winter Bell and the best about them ... they pretty much confirm parasite fusioner ... unless it gets nerfed to hell. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dova Posted August 16, 2016 Report Share Posted August 16, 2016 Alright, so, hand consisting of a Snow Bell and Terrortop. If you want to double the output you need another Snow Bell, Speed Recovery, and any other Speedroid non-Tuner (You can have Yoyo instead of the previous two cards). 1. SS Terrortop, add Taketomborg2. SS Taketomborg and the amount of Snow Bells you have3. Activate Taketomborg to Summon Dice, choose Level 6 on Terrortop4. Synchro Summon Clear Wing with Dice and Terrortop5. Synchro Summon Crystal Wing with Snow Bell and Clear WingIf you are fine with one Crystal Wing with card effect indestructibility, stop here. Otherwise:6. Either Summon Yoyo or your other Speedroid non-Tuner7. Summon Dice using Yoyo or Recovery, choose 6 on the other Speedroid non-Tuner8. Synchro Summon Clear Wing with the other Speedroid non-Tuner and Dice9. Synchro Summon Crystal Wing with with Snow Bell and Clear WingCongrats, you now have two Crystal Wings which are immune to Raigeki and the like. Am I missing something here? This seems like a problem, or maybe I am overestimating it. I mean, maybe the latter is hard to pull off, but the first literally only requires two cards. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Highlander Posted August 16, 2016 Report Share Posted August 16, 2016 Am I missing something here? This seems like a problem, or maybe I am overestimating it. I mean, maybe the latter is hard to pull off, but the first literally only requires two cards.It is not a problem, however a neat play for pure speedroids, considering they can easily summon multiple crystal wings (even in 1 turn and 3 crystal + stardust if you have soul charge), but struggle against raigeki and dark hole, so muchyou would rather summon a stardust than a second crystal, so it is actually cute, though pure s.roids prefer to go hagoita + level 3. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kaiji Posted August 16, 2016 Report Share Posted August 16, 2016 Alright, so, hand consisting of a Snow Bell and Terrortop. If you want to double the output you need another Snow Bell, Speed Recovery, and any other Speedroid non-Tuner (You can have Yoyo instead of the previous two cards). 1. SS Terrortop, add Taketomborg 2. SS Taketomborg and the amount of Snow Bells you have 3. Activate Taketomborg to Summon Dice, choose Level 6 on Terrortop 4. Synchro Summon Clear Wing with Dice and Terrortop 5. Synchro Summon Crystal Wing with Snow Bell and Clear Wing If you are fine with one Crystal Wing with card effect indestructibility, stop here. Otherwise: 6. Either Summon Yoyo or your other Speedroid non-Tuner 7. Summon Dice using Yoyo or Recovery, choose 6 on the other Speedroid non-Tuner 8. Synchro Summon Clear Wing with the other Speedroid non-Tuner and Dice 9. Synchro Summon Crystal Wing with with Snow Bell and Clear Wing Congrats, you now have two Crystal Wings which are immune to Raigeki and the like. Am I missing something here? This seems like a problem, or maybe I am overestimating it. I mean, maybe the latter is hard to pull off, but the first literally only requires two cards.Most people cheat Crystal Wing through Ultimaya which could be considered problematic, but I think this is def some much needed Speedroid support. It puts an emphasis on how powerful Terrortop is in the deck (which will most likely rectified by the Speedroid Scratch 'N Sniff Spell). Like terrortop plays in speedroid were already pretty good, but this lets you make Crystal Wing without using your normal AND it gives more value to your other normal summon as most of the time Double Yoyo was just a really bad bridge into the 2nd tuner for Crystal Wing; now Double Yoyo can translate into an actual synchro play. The WW existing might give people more incentive to remove taketomborg but who knows. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
~~~~ Posted August 16, 2016 Report Share Posted August 16, 2016 So they nerfed OMK Gum (other than making it non-nomi) from the anime, which is disappointing as it didn't need it. But hell I love the Wind Witches. Winter Bell is especially nice for effectively having a more powerful version of Ancient Fairy Dragon's first effect, enabling either further Synchro plays or Rank 7 (with Machina Fortress?) Depending on the rest of the Wind Witches, I may well build Speedwitches. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Highlander Posted August 16, 2016 Report Share Posted August 16, 2016 Most people cheat Crystal Wing through Ultimaya which could be considered problematic, but I think this is def some much needed Speedroid support. It puts an emphasis on how powerful Terrortop is in the deck (which will most likely rectified by the Speedroid Scratch 'N Sniff Spell). Like terrortop plays in speedroid were already pretty good, but this lets you make Crystal Wing without using your normal AND it gives more value to your other normal summon as most of the time Double Yoyo was just a really bad bridge into the 2nd tuner for Crystal Wing; now Double Yoyo can translate into an actual synchro play. The WW existing might give people more incentive to remove taketomborg but who knows.To be fair yoyo always had black rose going for it, considering you could still terrortop or speedroid revival after nuking the field (just like they always were able to instant fusion into blackrose to ensure your crystal wing plays afterwards). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kaiji Posted August 16, 2016 Report Share Posted August 16, 2016 There's no efficient method of dumping a Dice Tuner whether its going first or second so that means you had to commit a play (exception: Symphonic Guitaars) before being able to get value off Yoyo (its a fair assumption that any non Terrortop play is not worth mentioning? revisiting Guitaars you still only receive 1/2 of materials necessary for a synchro summon or it shuts off Terrortop) so it's not really a point of favor of Yoyo when the issues are still present. Most yoyo plays were 4 card combos, and with the Wind Tuner they've been reduced to 3 card combos. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
~~~~ Posted August 16, 2016 Report Share Posted August 16, 2016 There's no efficient method of dumping a Dice Tuner whether its going first or second so that means you had to commit a play (exception: Symphonic Guitaars) before being able to get value off Yoyo (its a fair assumption that any non Terrortop play is not worth mentioning? revisiting Guitaars you still only receive 1/2 of materials necessary for a synchro summon or it shuts off Terrortop) so it's not really a point of favor of Yoyo when the issues are still present. Most yoyo plays were 4 card combos, and with the Wind Tuner they've been reduced to 3 card combos. Non-Terrortop plays are worth mentioning because without Soeedroid Scratch, the deck has a problem getting it, and with Speedroid Scratch, you can set up a Tuner in the Grave. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
~British Soul~ Posted August 16, 2016 Report Share Posted August 16, 2016 K, so they buff Snow Bell by giving it an extra effect, which in itself is quite neat, and they change Winter Bell's eff (buffing it in the process), so instead of copying the monster's eff, it burns your opponent, though I do like how it can enable MP2 synchro plays. I'm interested in seeing how the other Wind Witches turn out with these two buffed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Highlander Posted August 16, 2016 Report Share Posted August 16, 2016 K, so they buff Snow Bell by giving it an extra effect, which in itself is quite neat, and they change Winter Bell's eff (buffing it in the process), so instead of copying the monster's eff, it burns your opponent, though I do like how it can enable MP2 synchro plays. I'm interested in seeing how the other Wind Witches turn out with these two buffed. Well or Winter Bell can fuse using parasite fusioner, after attacking, assuming parasite keeps the main part of its effects. However as you mentioned Winter Bell can go into crystal Wing during the main phase 2. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
玄魔の王 Posted August 16, 2016 Report Share Posted August 16, 2016 So they nerfed OMK Gum (other than making it non-nomi) from the anime, which is disappointing as it didn't need it. But hell I love the Wind Witches. Winter Bell is especially nice for effectively having a more powerful version of Ancient Fairy Dragon's first effect, enabling either further Synchro plays or Rank 7 (with Machina Fortress?) Depending on the rest of the Wind Witches, I may well build Speedwitches.How did they really nerf it? Considering it lost Special Summon monster status I'd say that's a buff all around. Winter Bell likewise got its requirement changed from only members of its own Archetype. Which I appreciate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cardgameking Posted August 16, 2016 Report Share Posted August 16, 2016 Well, damn. The Synchro may have lost that effect copying ability (which may be annoying, if other Witches get good effects) but the burn effect is sweet if the archetype gets more Synchros or a high level Fusion. So it can target itself with the second itself? So more Witches every battle phase, nice.Snow Bell is basically Konami admitting that even Yugo and Rin's decks ship each other. Looks like Speedwitches, if the support continues at a good level, may be a competitively viable deck. Wonder if Predator Plants will ever get good support. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Highlander Posted August 16, 2016 Report Share Posted August 16, 2016 Wonder if Predator Plants will ever get good support. Performapals also had awful support to begin with, until the anime included lizardraw and drumming kong (and sorcerer was revealed) a while ago predator plan(er) was used in the anime, so this might be the turning point, though Tempest + a Booster SP would be best to make them worthwhile. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tinkerer Posted August 16, 2016 Report Share Posted August 16, 2016 Alright, so, hand consisting of a Snow Bell and Terrortop. If you want to double the output you need another Snow Bell, Speed Recovery, and any other Speedroid non-Tuner (You can have Yoyo instead of the previous two cards). 1. SS Terrortop, add Taketomborg 2. SS Taketomborg and the amount of Snow Bells you have 3. Activate Taketomborg to Summon Dice, choose Level 6 on Terrortop 4. Synchro Summon Clear Wing with Dice and Terrortop 5. Synchro Summon Crystal Wing with Snow Bell and Clear Wing If you are fine with one Crystal Wing with card effect indestructibility, stop here. Otherwise: 6. Either Summon Yoyo or your other Speedroid non-Tuner 7. Summon Dice using Yoyo or Recovery, choose 6 on the other Speedroid non-Tuner 8. Synchro Summon Clear Wing with the other Speedroid non-Tuner and Dice 9. Synchro Summon Crystal Wing with with Snow Bell and Clear Wing Congrats, you now have two Crystal Wings which are immune to Raigeki and the like. Am I missing something here? This seems like a problem, or maybe I am overestimating it. I mean, maybe the latter is hard to pull off, but the first literally only requires two cards.3x Where Art Thou gets into Snow Bell just using Terrortop, making the combo even easier. And possibly without even using a NS. Now we just need that Scratch-off card. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dokutah Posted August 16, 2016 Report Share Posted August 16, 2016 here only for the Wind Witches, a bit annoyed that their lost their Diamond Dude-esque copy effects...oh well at least is a surprisingly generic-ish WIND toolbox archetype. Indestruct Crystal Wing on using Snow Bell is neat. Seriously?! Winter Bell can Summon ANYTHING?! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
~~~~ Posted August 16, 2016 Report Share Posted August 16, 2016 How did they really nerf it? Considering it lost Special Summon monster status I'd say that's a buff all around.Yeah, I said they nerfed OMK Gum (other than making it non-nomi)because if it had stayed a semi-nomi, it would have been a meaningless piece of cardboard, not a Yugioh card. But they nerfed in the sense that it now only gets the Synchro Summon effect when summoned by its own effect, not from say, a CotH to Trish in your opponent's turn. They also reduced the amount of ATK that can be gained from the mill effect. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
~British Soul~ Posted August 16, 2016 Report Share Posted August 16, 2016 Well or Winter Bell can fuse using parasite fusioner, after attacking, assuming parasite keeps the main part of its effects. However as you mentioned Winter Bell can go into crystal Wing during the main phase 2.We'll have to see if they make any changes to Parasite Fusioner (if any), though I don't see any problems with it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Highlander Posted August 16, 2016 Report Share Posted August 16, 2016 We'll have to see if they make any changes to Parasite Fusioner (if any), though I don't see any problems with it.It would not be the first time an already alright monster would get nerfed without real need. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
~British Soul~ Posted August 16, 2016 Report Share Posted August 16, 2016 It would not be the first time an already alright monster would get nerfed without real need.True. Knowing Konami, they may just nerf it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
玄魔の王 Posted August 16, 2016 Report Share Posted August 16, 2016 Yeah, I said because if it had stayed a semi-nomi, it would have been a meaningless piece of cardboard, not a Yugioh card. But they nerfed in the sense that it now only gets the Synchro Summon effect when summoned by its own effect, not from say, a CotH to Trish in your opponent's turn. They also reduced the amount of ATK that can be gained from the mill effect.None of which really matters when weighed against the fact you can actually use it now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
~~~~ Posted August 16, 2016 Report Share Posted August 16, 2016 None of which really matters when weighed against the fact you can actually use it now.Eh, you can. But I would recommend against it. I was expecting that they'd just remove the Summoning Conditions, so I probably should have said that it was nerfed compared to my expectations. You're right: strictly speaking, it was buffed compared to the anime. Still, OMK Gum is a shitty little card, anime or irl. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VCR_CAT Posted August 16, 2016 Report Share Posted August 16, 2016 Tech Snow Bell in Yosenju's for the Trishula memes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brinolovania Posted August 16, 2016 Report Share Posted August 16, 2016 Awe, I'm sad Winter Bell lost her effect copying thing. That said, being able to pull any monster that's level 7 or lower out of your hand seems pretty neat, although it is kinda slow. Plus, Snow Bell got some pretty nice buffs. Just what we needed, Crystal Wing being even better! Also, both OMK Gum and Winter Bell say "THE Battle Phase" in their effects, not "YOUR Battle Phase." So does that mean they can be used during either player's BP, or nah? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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