[[SA]] F•HERO Cards (Lady Gale Added!!)

[Saiba Aisu]

Jolta: She's based off of Elemental Hero Captain Gold. Thanks for the high rating!

 

Zombie: I've only ever posted them once, so I've no clue what you mean... >_> As to making a unique card, there are some here and there - Athena's a nice one. But it's difficult to make cards unique without making them unplayable, as well... Thanks for the high rating, as well.

 

Nave: Thanks, glad you like them, but... Well, if you paid attention to Aquamarie, you'd see that her effect been edited to be much fairer. 7.9 is a pretty low rating, I think... Care to explain?

 

Jolta: She's based off of Elemental Hero Captain Gold. Thanks for the high rating!

 

Zombie: I've only ever posted them once, so I've no clue what you mean... >_> As to making a unique card, there are some here and there - Athena's a nice one. But it's difficult to make cards unique without making them unplayable, as well... Thanks for the high rating, as well.

 

Nave: Thanks, glad you like them, but... Well, if you paid attention to Aquamarie, you'd see that her effect been edited to be much fairer. 7.9 is a pretty low rating, I think... Care to explain?

[Saiba Aisu]

Update, everyone. We're back, and better than ever.

 

Added a beautiful and never before-seen Fancy Hero Fusion!! Please tell me what you think!

[ragnarok1945]

for your fusion monster's effect in destroying your opponent's spells/traps, the drawback isn't enough.

 

I'd change it so that you'd have to skip your battle phase COMPLETELY, and not just the fusion monster can't attack

 

9/10

[Saiba Aisu]

Hm. I wouldn't say that she's underpowered. Fusion Monsters really aren't too good right now, considering that you're basically -2ing yourself. If I changed it to that, I think she'd be underpowered... This way, it reinforces the team feel of the Fancy Heroes.

 

But thanks for the high rating. How did you like the image?

[chizuruotohime]

ehem...its not a fancy hero..its phoenix warrior first ,you have permission to the original artist (not kaibaman)

 

i have my version of the phoenix champion...its f hero phoebie burstwing..it will be released soon and i have a unique effect for her

[Saiba Aisu]

Um, Chizu, dear... It's a Fancy Hero if I say it is. This is my thread, remember? If you had taken time to read the post in question, you'd see I gave Kaibaman credit for his image. If I had used the name 'Phoenix Warrior' or given her a similar effect, I would have had to track down the original artist. And she's definitely Fancy Hero-looking... She could be Incendine/Lucie's older sister, and I even gave her a heart on her belt! :P

 

Glad to see you like her. xP

[Vector Nightmare]

Eh. Now that I've dueled with you using your F-Heroes I can formulate a more educated opinion on the subject of balance. As ragnarok said, the Spell / Trap destruction effect is rather off-the-hook if you ask me. It's like having anywhere from one to three MST's out every turn. You should at least make it so that it doesn't take PC herself into account, and only destroys one for every other F-Hero you control, and even then it's probably too much. With practically 2800 ATK points, she's not an easy target to put down.

 

Concept-wise, it is an amazing idea. I like the image as I've already said, and in card format it looks considerably neater than it did independently. You know my views on the name already as well. Excellent work there.

[chizuruotohime]

Um' date=' Chizu, dear... It's a Fancy Hero if I say it is. This is my thread, remember? If you had taken time to read the post in question, you'd see I gave Kaibaman credit for his image. If I had used the name 'Phoenix Warrior' or given her a similar effect, I would have had to track down the original artist. And she's definitely Fancy Hero-looking... She could be Incendine/Lucie's older sister, and I even gave her a heart on her belt! :P

 

Glad to see you like her. xP

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its not like it...but i wish all fancy heroes will be on kaibaman art not others..

[Saiba Aisu]

Ixigo: You have to try and remember that she's a Level 7 Fusion Monster... There are many, many ways to take her out, and you're basically -2ing yourself every time you play her. If that weren't enough, you need to have additional monsters on the field to make her of any use...

 

She's useful, but I wouldn't say she's overpowered...

 

Chizu: You want all the Fancy Hero artworks you use in the set to be from Jadenkaiba...? So what do you have to say about your Fancy Hero Ayame and Raviona, who have totally different styles?

[Wanderley]

new card is just awesome

OCG and effect and the image too

9.99/10

[Merci]

Awelot...((How do you do that infinity symbol again?))/10...

 

But Chizuru's work is even better.....

[Saiba Aisu]

Wanderley: Thanks for the excellent rating. I'm glad you can appreciate her, and I hope you're keeping well.

 

Merciful: Thanks for the lovely and flattering rating, haha. And what do you mean, 'Chizu's work is even better?' I'm not doubting her work or competing here with her. She has the original concept and I don't deny that, but generally my effects, card grammar, names, and images tend to be better.

[Vector Nightmare]

Ixigo: You have to try and remember that she's a Level 7 Fusion Monster... There are many' date=' many ways to take her out, and you're basically -2ing yourself every time you play her. If that weren't enough, you need to have additional monsters on the field to make her of any use...[/quote']

 

By summoning her, you have:

 

-An offensive powerhouse

-A MST every turn at the very least

 

Yes, there are ways to take her out, but not more ways than for another comparable monster with much weaker effect. The fact that she's a Fused monster isn't enough to justify it, considering the amount of support they get. I'm comparing her to some E-Hero Fused monsters, and she still seems quite strong.

[Saiba Aisu]

Ixigo, she's not exactly difficult to summon, you're right. However, she's a Fusion Monster, and Fusions generally tend to hurt more than they help, especially when they require cards like Polymerization (or in this case, Fancy Fusion). Like you said, there are several ways to get rid of her - however, just because she shares some of these weaknesses with weaker monsters isn't a reason to tone her down.

 

Also most Fusion Monster support is pretty poor, except perhaps with the exception of Re-Fusion. Most E-Hero Fusions are trash; that's probably why. Some of the more recent ones, like Absolute Zero and Hurricane, are way more powerful than her. After talking it over with my pro-level friend Dan, he says she's pretty terrible when placed in a top tier context.

[chizuruotohime]

Tend to be better??

[Saiba Aisu]

Update! Fancy Hero Shock Fire added!

 

Chizu, I'm not sure about this, but I am guessing that English is not your first language. If so, you have achieved something amazing by creating as popular and well-thought out cards as you have. However, from time to time, you have a few grammar errors or OCG mistakes. Also, some of the names of the Heroes (like Mimi or Polly) could be better.

[ragnarok1945]

Shock Fire is somewhat OPed

 

*500 is just too much, its atk will jump to 3600 when battling a lv9 monster, which will probably guarantee the lv9 monster gets destroyed

 

then you get to burn your opponent for the lv9 monster's atk, there's not a single drawback on this, add some

 

7.9/10

[Saiba Aisu]

Well, for starters... She's actually quite weak for a Level 6 monster, meaning that most of her same-Level counterparts - Monarchs, Magical Android, other Synchro Monsters - will bulldoze right past her without her gaining any ATK.

 

Also, Level 9 monsters aren't that common in the metagame... The only ones that I think are used actively are Red-Eyes Darkness Dragon and Mist Wurm. So, on average, she's not that likely to gain large amounts of ATK. In addition, there's a lot of monster removal going on around the metagame in the form of Traps and Spells, meaning that she's quite easy to take out, considering her only usefulness is through attacking.

[ragnarok1945]

I know she's weak for lv6, which is why if used against you even the lv5 monsters should be able to handle her

 

and while lv9s aren't common, lv8 ones are more common. 3100 atk is considered on the very high end for a lv8, it can handle most of them you know

[ragnarok1945]

I'd change the burn damage

 

instead of ALL the destroyed monster's atk, cut it in half.

 

As for the atk gain, make it *300 instead of 500, but make it apply to lv5 or higher monsters this card battles with

[Saiba Aisu]

Hm, I guess I could halve the burn damage... That's not too bad... But as for the ATK increase, 300 is too random a number, and so is Level 5...

[Leturn Master]

Well, the concept is quite awesome... the follow-through however.

 

Pics are great, especially compared to your average YCM-er's picture choice. However, they have a grainy texture that makes it look to me like they were colored in pencil. And, I'm pretty sure, all of them are female... but, anyways.

 

Secondly, every single card (more or less) is a souped-up version of an "Elemental Hero" monster. They even look like them... it's sad... the first one I saw that wasn't an E-Hero was "Aquamarie", who would be banned (I know all about your come-back card idea... but in the meta it wouldn't BE a come-back. It'd be abused. She's like "Disc Commander"... but better...), and she's emulating a D-Hero. Originality = *droops*

 

And "Phoenix Champion" is a little overpowered. I can easily see her DESTROYING the competition. Like "Ixigo" said, she's a powerhouse with some CRAZY "MST"-emulating abilities. She'd be Limited, methinks. There's too much possible abuse. "Shock Fire" is totally fine. If someone is running a high-level monster, it had better me DAD (which will own anyhow) or JD, which can nuke her away. I guess "Plasma" might be used by crazy people, but that can just eat "Shock Fire" without a problem... In reality, she's only a problem to low-level duelists, who would be wiped out by any decent "Fancy Hero" strategy anyhow...

 

And why do all female monster cards have to have giant boobs? Not an attack, just a question... it's the same with every other card, too.

 

:mrgreen:

[Saiba Aisu]

Well, the pictures have a texture that makes it look like they were hand-colored because... they were. Also, what does their gender have to do with anything?

 

Oh, dear. If you had bothered to read the first post, all of this would have been cleared up... They're supposed to have similar images and effects to the Elemental Heroes... They're female counterparts, just a little 'Fancier'. Also, Aquamarie got an effect change, so she's need as broken as before. And no, she's actually emulating Elemental Hero Bubbleman...

 

Phoenix Champion really isn't that powerful; there are certainly a lot of cards in today's top tier metagame that could take her out with ease. She's a Fusion, meaning that it's an instant -2, so that balances her out. I'm glad you like Shock Fire, though...

 

Also, idk. It seems to be a theme very popular in anime/manga. I guess the artist (not me) made them that way. Personally, I like the images.

[ragnarok1945]

Hm' date=' I guess I could halve the burn damage... That's not too bad... But as for the ATK increase, 300 is too random a number, and so is Level 5...

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so what do you have in mind for the modifications?

[Vector Nightmare]

You're saying that because it's a Fusion it's a -2... but that's not entirely correct. High-level monsters require Tributes as well. Tribute Summoning basically requires an entire set-up as well, whereas Fusion Summoning can be done extremely quickly, and it's not anywhere near as inconvenient as it once was due to the huge amount of support even within this very set. I disagree with the notion that because a monster is Fusion Summoned, it automatically should be placed a scale above its tier. It should be placed on the top end of the scale, but not exceed it - Shockfire is too buffed, it can easily take out most higher-levelled monsters while dealing a huge amount of damage. Ragnarok is entirely on the right track here. Cut the burn in half, and reduce the ATK bonus - if you must, make her gain power from monsters on her Level as well, which would even the scales with similar-level monsters. The way it is now, it stands between underpowered and balanced, yes, but it can be a huge game-breaker, and while that doesn't necessarily mean it's overpowered, it's still the kind of card that you'd frown upon, as it can literally shift the scales and win you a game you've been on the losing end of since the first turn in just one move.

 

As far as Phoenix Champion is concerned, I am in agreement with Leturn. No matter how you look at it, having her out is like having a permanent, spammable MST. You may say that she can be brought down easily - but she can also be protected easily. I'll make the point about how Tribute Summoning can be equally inconvenient as Fusion Summoning again, and with her insane Spell/Trap destroying abilities coupled with her battle prowess, Phoenix Champion is one tier higher than she's supposed to be.

 

Also, concerning what Leturn said - you automatically assume that he hasn't read your notes. Even if someone does read that you modeled them after the E-Heroes on purpose (which couldn't really be done accidentally, either), it doesn't mean that he has to approve of it. Since the get-go, my biggest issue with these cards are that they are essentially an already existing archetype that has been modified - greatly improved upon, to be sure, but it's still not an original idea. You can't blame someone for not viewing this under the same light as you.