ragnarok1945 Posted November 16, 2011 Report Share Posted November 16, 2011 [quote name='Izaya Orihara' timestamp='1321475608' post='5646762'] He did get a fourth term and look what happened? He died and his vice president f*cked everything to hell... [/quote] That's normal. Truman just thought the A-bomb was a child's toy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darth Revan of the Sith Posted November 16, 2011 Report Share Posted November 16, 2011 [quote name='ragnarok1945' timestamp='1321475665' post='5646767'] That's normal. Truman just thought the A-bomb was a child's toy [/quote] FDR didn't realize that eventually he would die and should have left after number 3... His New Deal was terrible and the only thing that kept our country in control was WWII.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ragnarok1945 Posted November 16, 2011 Report Share Posted November 16, 2011 you consider Truman's Fair Deal policy similar then? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nexev Posted November 16, 2011 Report Share Posted November 16, 2011 [quote name='~OW~' timestamp='1321408696' post='5645281'] [url="http://americancensorship.org/"]http://americancensorship.org/[/url] Because I was asked to make this topic. Nothing more than the government sucking up to their money makers and continuing to take away our rights. Discuss. [/quote] After extensive study, I have come to conclude that this law is not made of bullshit, and rather is simply made out of paper. And its not going to pass, sites like Facebook make big dough and corporations pretty much always win against the law. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darth Revan of the Sith Posted November 16, 2011 Report Share Posted November 16, 2011 [quote name='ragnarok1945' timestamp='1321475778' post='5646771'] you consider Truman's Fair Deal policy similar then? [/quote] Quite so... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ragnarok1945 Posted November 16, 2011 Report Share Posted November 16, 2011 if they take facebook away there will be GLOBAL rioting Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Resident Fascist Posted November 16, 2011 Report Share Posted November 16, 2011 [quote name='ragnarok1945' timestamp='1321476055' post='5646783'] if they take facebook away there will be GLOBAL rioting [/quote] *prepares anti-riot defences* Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ragnarok1945 Posted November 16, 2011 Report Share Posted November 16, 2011 [quote name='Izaya Orihara' timestamp='1321476039' post='5646780'] Quite so... [/quote] Well it's better than what Reagan did, accusing the public and saying "You public keep blaming the government for your misfortunes, open your eyes and look at yourselves." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darth Revan of the Sith Posted November 16, 2011 Report Share Posted November 16, 2011 [quote name='ragnarok1945' timestamp='1321476254' post='5646795'] Well it's better than what Reagan did, accusing the public and saying "You public keep blaming the government for your misfortunes, open your eyes and look at yourselves." [/quote] Then making the 80's one of the most morally bounded decades in US history... Guy had alzheimers in his own presidency... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ragnarok1945 Posted November 16, 2011 Report Share Posted November 16, 2011 yeah well what Obama said only like a few weeks ago has been the same thing Teddy Roosevelt said at the start of the 20th century which is what the government doing is only immoral, not illegal Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Legend Zero Posted November 16, 2011 Report Share Posted November 16, 2011 [quote name='GreigaBeastDS' timestamp='1321410357' post='5645372'] Clear and Present Danger doctrine. tl;dr The Surpreme Court can completely ignore the amendments (aka our rights) if the country is in clear and present danger. We are currently in a (never ending) war on terrorism. Our government is not perfect. At all. Other countries have a constitution that's awesome an is younger than ours (coughjapancough) and they do awesome. Why is it our government has to be the corrupted one? [/quote] [quote name='ragnarok1945' timestamp='1321410423' post='5645376'] Unless the government intends to turn the structure into a dictatorship [/quote] See "Revolution" in dictionary Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ragnarok1945 Posted November 16, 2011 Report Share Posted November 16, 2011 not all governments are that easy to overthrow, you know Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Just Crouton Posted November 16, 2011 Report Share Posted November 16, 2011 This was at the top of my tumblr updates when I popped in to look for [s]muscular women fetish[/s] pictures. [img]http://i898.photobucket.com/albums/ac187/Deraj_2010/ObamaGood.png[/img] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ragnarok1945 Posted November 16, 2011 Report Share Posted November 16, 2011 he just wants to remain in office another term, could care less what happens with the public as long as they vote for him Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Just Crouton Posted November 16, 2011 Report Share Posted November 16, 2011 [quote name='ragnarok1945' timestamp='1321478431' post='5646865'] he just wants to remain in office another term, could care less what happens with the public as long as they vote for him [/quote] Like any politician. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ragnarok1945 Posted November 16, 2011 Report Share Posted November 16, 2011 [quote name='~King Crouton~' timestamp='1321478659' post='5646875'] Like any politician. [/quote] That's the way it's been for quite some time. In the first term, the only thing presidents do is set everything in place to get themselves re-elected Only the in the SECOND term do they actually DO anything Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LordCowCowCowCowCowCowCowCow Posted November 17, 2011 Report Share Posted November 17, 2011 All governments have flaws, all politicians are easily corruptible. America is just more noticeable in their corruption. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tentacruel Posted November 17, 2011 Report Share Posted November 17, 2011 Woah waoh. Obama veto it? Wasn't it him that proposed it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ragnarok1945 Posted November 17, 2011 Report Share Posted November 17, 2011 [quote name='Lord_Cow_Cow' timestamp='1321491910' post='5647500'] All governments have flaws, all politicians are easily corruptible. America is just more noticeable in their corruption. [/quote] this is why a lot of people argue the US government is not really a democracy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CMRenji Posted November 17, 2011 Report Share Posted November 17, 2011 [quote name='ragnarok1945' timestamp='1321477478' post='5646835'] not all governments are that easy to overthrow, you know [/quote] I bet that's exactly what the Romans thought. I think with enough people, resources and advanced enough technology, the U.S. government could be put into disorder at the least. Though I don't hope that happens, I personally believe our government is semi-competent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ragnarok1945 Posted November 17, 2011 Report Share Posted November 17, 2011 [quote name='â—ŠRenjiâ—Š' timestamp='1321493744' post='5647572'] I bet that's exactly what the Romans thought. I think with enough people, resources and advanced enough technology, the U.S. government could be put into disorder at the least. Though I don't hope that happens, I think our government is competent enough. [/quote] oh please, you really think the government cares about us? You need to watch the film John Q, Renji. Once you watch that, you'll see otherwise Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ieyasu Tokugawa Posted November 17, 2011 Report Share Posted November 17, 2011 [quote name='ragnarok1945' timestamp='1321493795' post='5647575'] oh please, you really think the government cares about us? You need to watch the film John Q, Renji. Once you watch that, you'll see otherwise [/quote] The problem, people vote for the government in America. If they're smart, they will vote out the people who want to put the law into effect and vote in the people who don't like the law at all. The problem is being smart... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ragnarok1945 Posted November 17, 2011 Report Share Posted November 17, 2011 yeah and a lot of people don't vote because they feel the government does not care about them at all Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ieyasu Tokugawa Posted November 17, 2011 Report Share Posted November 17, 2011 [quote name='ragnarok1945' timestamp='1321494021' post='5647593'] yeah and a lot of people don't vote because they feel the government does not care about them at all [/quote] Which if they feel that way, they should vote for the people they do feel care about them. See, we people SHOULD be able to exhibit some control over the government. The problem is people seem to forget about that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ragnarok1945 Posted November 17, 2011 Report Share Posted November 17, 2011 well if you have a way to get EVERYONE not to vote at all next year that'd be great Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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