Duel Portal - Duel with your created cards [SUPPORT THREAD] [ONLINE]

[Flash Flyer - Sakura]

Any chance Duel Portal could get moderators of some kind to deal with unreasonable / toxic players?  Some people are just not listening to card making balance standards, arguing against legit plays without an inkling of reason other than saltiness, or are editing public cards to make them in to useless custom archetypes.  We have no way to prevent/stop this, right now, and can only try to fix it once the damage is already done.

 

It's been brought up before, and I'd agree that there should be someone to keep tabs on members there. Problem is that sea is absent most of the time, and he's the only one who can really give powers.

 

Although, if you can provide specific names, we can try to do something once sea shows himself. (Or leave a list of cards that were vandalized and their original effects if you know them)

[Kupoin]

From what I could gather, it was the entire Phantom Knights archetype.  As for a list of people... Hoo boy.  I'll try and get in contact with my buddy Djehuty and see if I can get that blacklist he keeps talking about off of him, but in the meantime, here's all the people I've encountered that have had a history of bad behavior and general toxicity.  Snoop Dogg means 'can be alright to duel, but be cautious', means 'duel at your own risk'.

 

• :: felgrand(series of numbers here) : This guy uses glitches to try and sneak plays, gets incredibly angry when called out on it, and also continuously chastises people who call him out on his BS in main chat.  Pulls the 'ur angry cuz u lost' defense, and refuses to stop when told by multiple people.  Got called out on his crap so much he changed his name to magnetboy326.  ^{_{Djehuty: guy's also got issues with people using custom cards, apparently.}}
• :: dreidelmts: Absolutely refuses to listen to people when they tell them to balance their Crystal Gem archetype, which they have yet to do.  Uses the whole 'trying to match the meta / compared to Konami' excuse.  _{^{Djehuty: not even remotely reasonable in my experience.}}
• :Snoop Dogg: 5fdpunch:  Has a history of using overpowered cards (Anime-version Seal of Orichalcos) in Tournament without warning, and says anyone who calls him out on that sort of thing is just complaining.  Does the passive aggressive  "so are you gonna quit or can i continue?" routine.  When he's not, though, he's alright to duel against.  _{^{Djehuty: eh, this one's cool.}}
• :Snoop Dogg: Surveillance:  Can be alright, but has a history of being outright rude and dick-ish to people while dueling, regardless of whether or not they're winning or losing.  ^{_{Djehuty: not a fan, but Halohbottech thinks he's good folks.}}
• :: Yuto: Edits TCG/OCG Konami-printed archetypes 'because no one can stop him.' Also argues consistently in Main Chat and is very spiteful.  ^{_{Djehuty: literally the worst.}}
• :: 0713MM:  Simply ignores anyone and everyone who has anything negative to say about their cards.  Almost never speaks, but does not listen to people telling them what is and isn't balanced.
• :: magnetboy326:  Felgrand under a different name.  Has a history of claiming legit plays to be cheating despite being told the rules and will chastise people in main chat because of it.  This is a personal gripe, but; net-decker.  Also a consistent competitive meta player - nothing wrong with that in the grand scheme, but don't expect to have much fun dueling this guy.  ^{_{Djehuty: also a very sore loser.}}
• :Snoop Dogg: JAIME:  Is improving, but still uses much profanity and has a serious problem with losing.  Enters rage mode when beaten particularly badly, and has been known to be passive aggressive (flooding duel chat with deck shuffling when asked to fix glitches sometimes, that sort of thing) and generally salty.  Also apparently has something against the Extra Deck.  My buddy Djehuty is trying to turn them on to GOAT.  Like I said, is improving.
• yeho:  Gone the way of most newbies to the site; uses crazy-broken cards and generally refuses to balance them along the proper guidelines.  They're not so-broken they're unbeatable, but he has some serious problems handling criticism.
• :: thevanitysguy:  Thinks he's some kind of YGO savior, keeps going on about how he's this incredible, heroic duelist who fought for freedom and sacrificed... Something.  Came from Dueling Network.  Whenever he's online, brings anywhere from ten to fifteen 'people' with him who do NOTHING but sing his praises.  Constantly.  We think they're all one person.  Doesn't help that the guy outright refuses to duel.  'War is Hell', apparently.  ^{_{Djehuty: managed to get him to slip up once, so that confirms it in my book.}}
• :: There's also a guy who came in once that made cards using pornographic images.  I should've written his name down.  He just kept calling everyone 'prudish' when he was called out on it.  Probably doesn't matter much to bring it up, but I figure we don't want SJW fathers/mothers to get up-in-arms 'cause their son's whacking it to a card game.  _{^{Djehuty: i also pointed out that Konami probably wouldn't appreciate that very much.}}

 

With the exception of that last fellow, these people are around generally every day.  We've adopted a general 'ignore most of the time' policy for pretty much all but 2 of these people, which is pretty dang sad.  Most are very active, but for the most part don't bring much to the table other than frustration and irrationality.

[宇佐見 蓮子@C94]

lmao duelportal turned to sheet after i abandoned it

 

thanks guys well played

[Kupoin]

We try to tell them it's okay to be salty, but being a douche isn't welcome.  Doesn't get through to some people.  It's not ALL bad, but the absence of Dueling Network has brought in more players with tissue-paper for skin than I personally would like.

 

EDIT:  OH, and uh - wouldn't be this bad if we had some form of moderation.

[seattleite]

To anyone having problems uploading cards:

Someone approached me with the same problem. He said the problem was gone when he switched from IE to Firefox. Don't know why, but it's worth a try.

 

 

Any chance Duel Portal could get moderators of some kind to deal with unreasonable / toxic players?  Some people are just not listening to card making balance standards, arguing against legit plays without an inkling of reason other than saltiness, or are editing public cards to make them in to useless custom archetypes.  We have no way to prevent/stop this, right now, and can only try to fix it once the damage is already done.

 

Yeah. I've made a thread here: http://forum.yugiohcardmaker.net/topic/357982-public-cards-moderation/

[Darj]

I just tried to change the email for my Duel Portal account and a window appears stating that "There was an error updating your profile".

 

EDIT:

I checked out of curiosity, and the same message appears when trying to change the "Allow Messaging" setting.

 

Quoting this to remind of this issue. Just tried to change the email again and its' still not working.

[Sluggaholic]

Yeah, just about everyone on Kupoin's list is someone who genuinely needs to meet a moderator who can do something.

 

Though, in my personal experience: felgrand (now magnetboy, to my knowledge) along with Surveillance are both decent people. A bit prickish, but decent nonetheless.

 

JAIME seems like he might be younger, or have some kind of mental regression issue (NOT SAYING THIS AS AN INSULT. THIS IS A GENUINE CONCERN OF MINE.) that makes him overly attached to older cards, throwing outright temper tantrums when people use Extra Deck cards he's not a fan of (i.e. Xyz Summoning, one I constantly use when I duel, and not just against him.) and swearing to high hell and back if he doesn't like someone. However, like Kupoin stated, he IS coming around, and if you joke around with him a little bit (not at his expense) you can usually get a good two or three duels out of him to relieve your own stress, assuming he isn't having an off day. Arguably the closest of the three I've mentioned so far to need to meet a ban hammer.

 

5fdPunch hasn't been an issue for me, but Kupoin's right: he doesn't accept-- or in my case, even acknowledge-- when others tell him about the OPness of some of his cards. (Mostly due to lack of PSCT knowledge, in that not a single card of his, regardless of power, ever has HOPT, and most rarely have OPT.)

 

Otherwise, yes: Kupoin most definitely hit ALL the right nails on the head here: we SERIOUSLY need card moderators.

 

If I were to suggest any, I'd suggest nuclearwhale on the site, and Hintin. Maybe Surveillance, but he's a bit prickish sometimes, so I'm not sure.

 

Oh, and maybe Kupoin. Don't know the guy well enough to say "yeah, he'd make a good mod", but he seems pretty level-headed and decently reasonable.

[zee1108]

Christ Kupoin, I havent seen bants like this in a while, calling everyone out kek.

But in all seriousness, someone need to be managing these cards, i don't know how you guys would manage this, but something needs to be done. It could even be a vote system where players vote on cards/archetypes and the creator is notified whether a majority thought it was broken or not.

And seriously, the state this game is in is a complete travesty. I understand the the audience for custom made Yugioh dueling is very small, but i'd rather have no medium to play this than a glitchy, damn-near unplayable, almost rage inducing release such as the one currently in place.

[Flash Flyer - Sakura]

Look at the linked thread to see what members think the card pool should look like for the future. Right now, the idea is that a group of about 3-5 trusted members looks at the cards and determines if they're overpowering or not. Question is if the members in charge of grading will have a diverse range of opinions of what they believe is an acceptable gamestate, and obviously compromise on it if they need to. 

 

Going with some of the suggestions, should probably be fine, but again, the measure isn't set in stone yet (although people are fond of the idea). Again, look at the thread sea linked to. 

[TRUE RULER^(Imper.Di )]

I know I'm late on the topic of card management. Do most people who play in non-CCG make their cards on ycm? If so, it would be nice if they posted cards on the forum. I've been on here since DP was a desktop program and I'm slow to change. I like to post cards but I know topics now get many views and almost no critiques or comments unless its done in game. We are a community afterall. We should make a community effort toward balancing. I've met a few toxic players but never thought twice about their names

[Neochu-H]

 If so, it would be nice if they posted cards on the forum.

they don't post because

1. they don't care

2. most topics get ignored.

[Pon3]

I have to say, DP is actually pretty good considering the absolute lack of any hierarchy. Though Mods would be great.

[Kupoin]

 

they don't post because

1. they don't care

2. most topics get ignored

 

#2 is the reason I stopped posting custom cards.  If it's not competitive meta, it generally gets ignored.

 

Also - blacklist update.  I'd've added a Snoop Dogg to Yeho, but apparently the post is at its emoticon limit.

[Flash Flyer - Sakura]

That's the reason why Advanced and Casual exist; latter is for more general stuff, whereas Advanced is for the competitive game (or at least better design than you would in Casual). Casual is partly for newer members and those who aren't as skilled in competition or have been out for a while. That, and review threads if you want to ask people to review your works. 

 

As for the blacklist, you can just change the Snoop Dogg / icons to other things. 

[Kupoin]

The one time I reviewed a thread, someone got annoyed, snippy, and pointed out my error in PSCT correction in a not-so-constructive or friendly manner.  Turned me off to the idea of reviewing cards.  Casual doesn't get very many reviews, which is a shame.  More people are focused on stuff built for the competitive meta than anything that's designed purely for the sake of design.

[Skycity]

For some reason, i cannot upload cards from YCM to Duelporta... i used to do it, but i'm using a different computer, and when i copy the url and paste it, it says "Cards need to have a URL!" for EVERY card i try to paste there, can you help me? :)

[seattleite]

For some reason, i cannot upload cards from YCM to Duelporta... i used to do it, but i'm using a different computer, and when i copy the url and paste it, it says "Cards need to have a URL!" for EVERY card i try to paste there, can you help me? :)

 

 

Try replacing the "https" with "http" at the beginning.

[RedStoneMikey]

So, I was excited about being able to play on DuelPortal again, cause it had stopped working for me, right?

Well

 

Excitement = Crushed

 

Now the site won't even load... Could you perhaps assist in some way?

[seattleite]

What browser are you using?

[evawin]

After nearly a year and some change of inactivity, I'm curious; how is DP faring? Judging by the odd fanfare that rolls through, it seems to still be kicking, so I logged on to see that I've been set as "balanced" for the few cards I uploaded? Is that a community feature? Also, has there been any recommendations for clearing up the gazillion set lists that tear your eyes out when you search through the different cards? I'm interested in maybe dipping my toes again (although the no-chrome thing with Silverlight is a thorn, as always).

[Flash Flyer - Sakura]

After nearly a year and some change of inactivity, I'm curious; how is DP faring? Judging by the odd fanfare that rolls through, it seems to still be kicking, so I logged on to see that I've been set as "balanced" for the few cards I uploaded? Is that a community feature? Also, has there been any recommendations for clearing up the gazillion set lists that tear your eyes out when you search through the different cards? I'm interested in maybe dipping my toes again (although the no-chrome thing with Silverlight is a thorn, as always).

 

1. It's still running, but basically the new change came around because some users were making extremely broken stuff and we've had no way of controlling it. 

 

That, and DN users coming over and behaving the same way as they did over there. 

 

2. I haven't checked it recently because Linux Firefox doesn't want to load DP, and the IEOnChrome app is somewhat glitchy, but you can probably use the balanced tag or something. 

 

I think it is a community feature (the balanced tag), but yeah. (Not seeing it on stuff I submitted, but either they're buried deep somewhere or they got glanced over. I don't submit too much though)

 

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If you want to use DP on Chrome, get that app listed above. 

[Self-Destruct Button]

I saw a lot of users make custom tokens for their decks, and banishing them at the start of the duel so they can use them properly. Wouldn't it be possible to place them in the extra deck, or have the token button generate an Extra Deck-esque screen where you can pick the token you want? That'd be convenient, yet not very important. Just a random idea.

[☪©h@ÐØÖk.exe☪]

DP doesn't work on chrome.

[Major's Shadow]

DP doesn't work on chrome.

https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/ie-tab/hehijbfgiekmjfkfjpbkbammjbdenadd?hl=en-US

 

Download this extension, then click the little "e" symbol on the top right of chrome after entering the website for DP. Chrome does not have Silverlight built in, and this extension will re-display the page under Internet Explorer instead, which does have Silverlight extension built-in. Hope this helps. 

[seattleite]

I saw a lot of users make custom tokens for their decks, and banishing them at the start of the duel so they can use them properly. Wouldn't it be possible to place them in the extra deck, or have the token button generate an Extra Deck-esque screen where you can pick the token you want? That'd be convenient, yet not very important. Just a random idea.

 

Good idea, and it's easy to do. I'll put it in the next version.