-Dom- Posted December 17, 2014 Report Share Posted December 17, 2014 Forbidden: Super Polymerization -....why? Do konami hate shaddolls AND heroes? Limited: Artifact Moralltach Dark Strike Fighter Snatch Steal Semi-Limited: Honest Goyo Guardian Dark Hole No Longer Limited: Blackwing – Gale the Whirlwind Mermail Abyssgunde Reborn Tengu Reasoning The Transmigration Prophecy source: http://www.yugioh-card.com/en/limited/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maeriberii Haan Posted December 17, 2014 Report Share Posted December 17, 2014 >Tengu at 3 It's happening, yush! Also Snatch Steal, lel. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spinny Posted December 17, 2014 Report Share Posted December 17, 2014 Forbidden: Super Polymerization - Well this is totally pointless Limited: Artifact Moralltach - Good. Dark Strike Fighter - Dont really think this will break the game so meh. Snatch Steal - Actually looking over card again, its not too bad it coming back. Semi-Limited: Honest - Doesnt have a big-enough impact right now anyway Goyo Guardian - Well this wont change too much either Dark Hole - we have raigeki. No Longer Limited: Blackwing – Gale the Whirlwind - Really depends on how broken the upcoming support is. Mermail Abyssgunde - Things are limited for a reason..... wut? Reborn Tengu - Wow this thing is actually playable now. Reasoning - Infernoid reasons, kinda obvious. The Transmigration Prophecy - About time. source: http://www.yugioh-card.com/en/limited/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bringerofcake Posted December 17, 2014 Report Share Posted December 17, 2014 I can't tell if I like this list or hate it. New errata'd DSF, Tengu, and Super Poly: Good 2 Goyo: Why 3 Reasoning for obvious Infernoids is obvious SNATCH STEAL FOR WHAT REASON Morall is kinda meh, it kills all the artyfact variants though 2 Honest oh god Time to build Tengu ScrapsI can't tell if I like this list or hate it. New errata'd DSF, Tengu, and Super Poly: Good 2 Goyo: Why 3 Reasoning for obvious Infernoids is obvious SNATCH STEAL FOR WHAT REASON Morall is kinda meh, it kills all the artyfact variants though 2 Honest oh god Time to build Tengu Scraps Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Master Hyperion Posted December 17, 2014 Report Share Posted December 17, 2014 Forbidden: Super Polymerization Understandable, but it would be better if Shaddols weren't so f***ing broken to begin with Limited: Artifact Moralltach Finally Dark Strike Fighter Expected with the nerf Snatch Steal Let's keep Brain Control on the list, but lets unban a searchable permanent Brain Control instead. WTF Semi-Limited: Honest ??? Goyo Guardian Might be interesting when the new Synchro stuff coming out Dark Hole We have Raigeki at 1 already, so meh No Longer Limited: Blackwing – Gale the Whirlwind Won't do anything Mermail Abyssgunde I forgot this was on the list actually Reborn Tengu They really want us to play Quasar Reasoning Why was this card still on the list when everything else is also on the list? The Transmigration Prophecy Why was this card still on the list on the first place? source: http://www.yugioh-card.com/en/limited/ I'm not sure if I like this list. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lonk Posted December 17, 2014 Report Share Posted December 17, 2014 Dat Honest @2. Time to spam Bujins. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spinny Posted December 17, 2014 Report Share Posted December 17, 2014 @ Hyperion, who the hell is actually going to sacrifice their normal summon/set to search this anyway? The list is fine overall. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Progenitor Posted December 17, 2014 Report Share Posted December 17, 2014 Honestly I didn't care what they did so long as they hit Scout, Skill Drain and Vanity's in some way...... http://youtu.be/XOC3vixnj_0?t=7m1s Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Master Hyperion Posted December 17, 2014 Report Share Posted December 17, 2014 @ Hyperion, who the hell is actually going to sacrifice their normal summon/set to search this anyway? whats a normal summon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
~British Soul~ Posted December 17, 2014 Report Share Posted December 17, 2014 Forbidden: Super Polymerization I actually don't mind this tbh. Limited: Artifact Moralltach HAT player won't like this much, but I'm fine with this. Dark Strike Fighter We all knew this would happen. Snatch Steal Teh fuck Konami? On the brightside, I have a use for the MRL Ultra I picked up at a car boot for like 30p. Semi-Limited: Honest Sure... give Bujins anotherHonest. Goyo Guardian Why....? Dark Hole I'm not gonna play 2 Dark Hole. No Longer Limited: Blackwing – Gale the Whirlwind Mehh.... depends on what the new support does. Mermail Abyssgunde I actually forgot this was even on the list. Reborn Tengu Not sure what to think of this move atm. Reasoning Konami wants to push Infernoids don't they? The Transmigration Prophecy About time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jabber2033 Posted December 17, 2014 Report Share Posted December 17, 2014 Oh wow. Kinda early for the Ban List, but I'm fine with it. Forbidden: Super Polymerization Have no feelings on this, but likely a good move. Limited: Artifact Moralltach So long HAT decks. Dark Strike Fighter Finally. With the new errata, this isn't as borked. Snatch Steal What? Eh, coulda been worse. Coulda been Harpies Feather Duster or something. Semi-Limited: Honest No. Just no. Goyo Guardian Wasn't that big of a deal so fine. Dark Hole I can see Yang Zings using 2 of this. Don't like it too much, though. No Longer Limited: Blackwing – Gale the Whirlwind Ummm. Was fine at 2. Mermail Abyssgunde Oh hai, Mermails. Reborn Tengu Eh, fine. Reasoning Okay. The Transmigration Prophecy Alright, I suppose. Not entirely sure about my feelings on this list. No Burning Abyss hit. No Qliphort hit. A couple of borked cards going up to 2-3. Kind of a weird list, all in all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spinny Posted December 17, 2014 Report Share Posted December 17, 2014 I doubt that a 2nd honest will even do anything in this format.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toffee. Posted December 17, 2014 Report Share Posted December 17, 2014 >Dark Hole@2 GUYS ITS HAPPENING DARK HOLE IS FINE AT 2 ATLAS WAS RIGHT ALL ALONG HE KNEW IT THE WHOLE TIME GRHFHYDGJFHJBHGFVUYH- *dies* Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Expelsword Posted December 17, 2014 Report Share Posted December 17, 2014 Forbidden: Super Polymerization - I would have expected this years ago, but not now. Are Shadolls really wrecking Heroes' fun that badly? Limited: Artifact Moralltach - RIP in pieces, HAT. I won't miss you. Dark Strike Fighter - This is once per turn now, right? Solid Snatch Steal - WHAT ARE YOU THINKING!? Semi-Limited: Honest - So, do I kill myself now, or later? Goyo Guardian - Who needs more than one? Dark Hole - We already had this with Raigeki, 3 Dark Holes is probably not needed in any deck. No Longer Limited: Blackwing – Gale the Whirlwind - Blackwing meta when? Mermail Abyssgunde - I don't even remember what this card does... Reborn Tengu - 3 Tengu 3 Malicious Bulb is back and Plague is at 3? Engage Synchro Shenanigans!! Reasoning - Infernoids will enjoy this, if they ever get here, Anyone still using DDT will have fun. The Transmigration Prophecy - Shenangians trap. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CLG Klavier Posted December 17, 2014 Report Share Posted December 17, 2014 Forbidden: Super Polymerization I'd like to note that this is a perfect example of the beloved by TCG section "design vs impact" discussion, and an ultimate proof of how it should work. Super Poly was always pretty degenerate, but only deck that could favorably use it was HEROes, which weren't really that good, so it was fine, it gave a boost to a weak deck. Now that Shaddolls exist, and HEROes will get stronger, it was giving an unfair advantage to already strong decks, so it got banned. Perfectly sound logic, and shows how it should work. Limited: Artifact Moralltach Dark Strike Fighter Snatch Steal Huh, didn't expect a Moralltach hit. Artifacts weren't really popular on the TCG side, but I guess it's to slightly nerf the Artifact Shaddoll variants? DSF makes sense with the nerf, but...Snatch Steal, why? Another pointless experiment on TCG side. Oh well, time to run Hidden Armory in Noble Knights. Semi-Limited: Honest Goyo Guardian Dark Hole Jesus fucking christ Honest is @2. I like how Goyo went from banned for ages to 2 in two banlists. Dark Hole...people keep going "not needed we have Raigeki", but you know, now we can have 3 drawbackless board wipes in our decks. Pretty good insurance policy. Also, a tiny boost to Yang Zing I guess? No Longer Limited: Blackwing – Gale the Whirlwind Mermail Abyssgunde Reborn Tengu Reasoning The Transmigration Prophecy Mostly irrelevant...Tengu aside. Fucking hell Plant Synchro times once a-motherfucking-gain. Oh and Reasoning for Infernoids, great. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darj Posted December 17, 2014 Report Share Posted December 17, 2014 Damn, Moralltach at 1. Telefacts was the deck that got me interested in the competitive enviroment about half a year ago, it became less relevant in the last format (at least vs. BAs), and now it is virtually dead. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blake Posted December 17, 2014 Report Share Posted December 17, 2014 whats a normal summon That extremely important thing that you only get one of a turn that's still fucking relevant? I mean, I get your point, but don't act like such a moron when making it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(GigaDrillBreaker) Posted December 17, 2014 Report Share Posted December 17, 2014 Forbidden: Super Polymerization Good Limited: Artifact Moralltach Is there a good reason for this? I thought artifacts were pretty much dead anyway, and this is what made the engine work. RIP, the days of sanctum->moralltach to take out tool Dark Strike Fighter K Snatch Steal Umm... Ok..? Semi-Limited: Honest Fluffals? Goyo Guardian Sure, why not. Dark Hole Is this one of those cards that suddenly becomes good once we have more than one of it? Only time will tell. No Longer Limited: Blackwing – Gale the Whirlwind Yes. Mermail Abyssgunde Hm... Kinda sketched out by this. Reborn Tengu YES. YES YES YES YES YES. Reasoning Infernoidslol. Spell Counters gets a bit better. The Transmigration Prophecy Sweet. source: http://www.yugioh-card.com/en/limited/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spinny Posted December 17, 2014 Report Share Posted December 17, 2014 @Giga, Fluffals dont work with honest, i really dont think it will have any impact this format. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(GigaDrillBreaker) Posted December 17, 2014 Report Share Posted December 17, 2014 @Giga, Fluffals dont work with honest, i really dont think it will have any impact this format. I didn't think so, hence the question mark. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SANDAA BORUTO Posted December 18, 2014 Report Share Posted December 18, 2014 Forbidden: Super Polymerization Why Konami... Just why? It's fine at 1. Limited: Artifact Moralltach Required move. Sanctum + This had became an engine by now. Dark Strike Fighter Uh, we have the new effect, don't we? If yes, I'm totally OK with bringing him back. Snatch Steal I'm happy with this being back but I know a certain someone won't be... Semi-Limited: Honest Oooooh, this'll sound interesting. Nice boost to my Herald Agents. Goyo Guardian Oh MAN! Thank goodness Goyo ain't as powerful as he was in 2011. Dark Hole Most people are replacing this for Raigeki in their Decks since SANDAA BORUTO got unbanned, so I don't see why not bump this buddy up a spot. No Longer Limited: Blackwing – Gale the Whirlwind WOOHOOOOO!!! *Launches fireworks* Mermail Abyssgunde Mermails are no longer a danger. Reborn Tengu This card no longer exists to the meta. Reasoning See above. The Transmigration Prophecy See above. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheTurtleOnceCalledGod Posted December 18, 2014 Report Share Posted December 18, 2014 I think half the decisions for list changes are for promoting new decks and killing off older ones, and the other half is for the lulz and reaction from the players. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
evilfusion Posted December 18, 2014 Report Share Posted December 18, 2014 All righty, let's see what we've got on this list... Super Polymerization - banned (Okay, it's a little sad, because I love the card, but I kind of feel like it deserves it because of Omni-HEROs, Shaddolls, etc being able to abuse it so badly) Artifact Moralltach - limited (I think I've been under the impression this was already limited. Probably OCG side. Eh, don't care). Dark Strike Fighter - limited (Again, thought it already was post-errata. But then again, we got the errata version between lists). Snatch Steal - limited (NO! WHY?!) Honest - semi-limited (I have no idea why they did this. I don't care all that much, to be honest - no pun intended) Goyo Guardian - semi-limited (*shrug* Okay. Don't think it needed to be bumped to 2, but whatever) Dark Hole - semi-limited (What.) Gale the Whirlwind - unlimited (YAY!) Mermail - Abyssgunde - unlimited (Don't care) Reborn Tengu - unlimited (Ehhh...kind of wish I had picked up 3 now, but I don't think it matters that much) Reasoning - unlimited (Don't care) Transmigration Prophecy - unlimited (Don't care) I don't think this list is anything too special. Unbanning Snatch Steal is iffy, though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Self-Destruct Button Posted December 18, 2014 Report Share Posted December 18, 2014 Still waiting for the comment from I hate Snatch Steal. Will he live up to his name? Time will tell. I don't really like the banlist, they might aswell have done absolutely nothing. The format's gonna be the same, BA and Qlis being all over the place (spectating a lot on DN, not rly playing tho), Shadolls got slightly hit for whatever reason being, no Fire Lake or Qliphort Scout hit made me really disappointed. 2 Dork Hole is completely fine by me, not like anyone will be playing 2, I might test it as I don't own any Raigekis. I was wondering when DSF would come back with the errata, no surprise there. Pulled one in LC5Ds yay. (Just like a Goyo <3) Snatch Steal, yeah whatever, I was expecting Sinister Serpent but it's k. Moral Limit comes like 20 Formats late, I don't understand at all why they would hit that now. Yay for Gunde and Tengu, will play Mermail a lot again. And finally Transmigration Prophecy is at 3 again, guess It'll be a side deck staple. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Agro Posted December 18, 2014 Report Share Posted December 18, 2014 Remind me just to quote myself every time a banlist gets released:This list isn't bad. And that's pretty depressing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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