Lonk Posted June 29, 2015 Report Share Posted June 29, 2015 >Not banning Royal Magical Library k Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blake Posted June 29, 2015 Author Report Share Posted June 29, 2015 But in that sense Stick should have taken the blow then. Again, Chain at multiples shouldn't be a thing, but it doesn't need a ban faster than the rest of the cards that it follows through with. I agree that it kinda is a decent move, but I tend to be less Pro Meta in my view of things, and I feel thin ice like letting Releaser exist and Stick be at multiples just is a face palming experienceFirst off, Clownblade is still strong without Stick, Seraph is just the best engine that has a ton of synergy with the deck. In addition, there is the fact that Stick is still fairly new, just like Thousand Blades. They only came out 2.5 months ago, so there's no way they'd hit them like that. Product cycles. And nothing else in Clownblade could really take the hit. Delteros? Nah. Ouroboros? Nah. Amaterasu? Nah. Ptolemaeus? Too new. Trapeze? Way too new. Anything else in the ED is generic R4 stuff. Assault Halberd? Thousand Blades? Stick? Chair? All too new. Juragedo? Too new. Damajuggler? Tricklown? Hattricker? Too new. They're not going to announce hitting Instant Fusion until after Norden's sold enough, if not for another format after that. I'm not arguing that all of these cards are problems, just pointing out th cards in the deck. I've gone over every last card in the deck... and no other card would be hit for the same result while considering product cycles. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ihop Posted June 29, 2015 Report Share Posted June 29, 2015 Gotta sell them Ghost Bunnies somehow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Expelsword Posted June 29, 2015 Report Share Posted June 29, 2015 Banned:Blaze Fenix OkLavalval Chain My DDT! D:Magical Explosion K. Limited:Chaos Emperor Dragon - Envoy of the End Uhhh....Cir, Malebranche of the Burning Abyss Good riddanceDark Magician of Chaos Uh, was this errata'd?Graff, Malebranche of the Burning Abyss BA is dead.Nekroz of Unicore Kaleido Mirror no longer autopilot?Nekroz of Valkyrus BATTARU FEIDASuper Rejuvenation I'm concerned with this oneMind Crush Let's see what people side nowMistake ^ Semi-Limited:Satellarknight Altair Oh no, their only play!Tour Guide from the Underworld Still deadEl-Shaddoll Construct KDragon Ravine Phaaaaalanx!El-Shaddoll Fusion Still too manyMonster Gate ENTER THE VOIDReinforcement of the Army Limit plsSummoner's Art ^ Unilimited:Honest ...That's okay. I wasn't planning on attacking... :(Sinister Serpent KCharge of the Light Brigade Inswernoid hype!Sacred Sword of Seven Stars Rip EDragons Overall, I'm skeptical. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blake Posted June 29, 2015 Author Report Share Posted June 29, 2015 Btw, one of the main reasons I made that rant was because I saw some complaints on stuff like ARG where people wanted Lavalval Chain because "It sends the Djinn", as if the Djinn is fine. It makes me feel like Konami listened to themThe thing is, that is a legitimate argument. The djinn is actually a sheet card that's only good because Lavalval sends it. It's not fine to exist, but you have to account for everything Chain has done to the game through time. This just happns to be an example where it enables a stupid SS lock. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ihop Posted June 29, 2015 Report Share Posted June 29, 2015 It's not as if Chain isn't ridiculous in Nekroz regardless of Djinn. You use it pretty often either to stack a Ju so you can guarantee a good play next turn or, even better, stack a Lancea and then draw it off Valk in order to tell your opponent "I've played Yugioh, now you can't play Yugioh next turn". Sure, that might be the problem of Valk (or even Lancea) but pretty much every use of Lavalval Chain can be blamed on something else because the card is entirely interactive with other cards, eventually you need to start looking at Chain itself and it's been the cause of so many ridiculous combos over its time that it can't really stay. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Resident Fascist Posted June 29, 2015 Report Share Posted June 29, 2015 You know, is this list is real, Yang Zing might actually be a legitimately good deck. The prospect of that actually makes me rather giddy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryusei the Morning Star Posted June 29, 2015 Report Share Posted June 29, 2015 Super Rejuvenation The Red Eyes pandering is sick When OCG does you all sheet a brick, when TCG does it, nobody gives a flying funk "OK" CED is not meant for TCG. Where is Trishula ......why is the list becoming more and more like OCG's? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Agro Posted June 29, 2015 Report Share Posted June 29, 2015 So glad beasts are tier 1 right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wildflame Posted June 29, 2015 Report Share Posted June 29, 2015 Fake, calling it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(GigaDrillBreaker) Posted June 29, 2015 Report Share Posted June 29, 2015 I refuse to believe in this.The banning of lavalval chain should be marked in history forever.Never really liked volcanics, but i cant help but share some empathy in this particular moment.This list is favorable for volcanic. Losing chain sucks, but L1T is still at 3, and mistake got hit as well. Unfortunately, Volcanic can't hold a candle to 'noids, as the fold to scattershot being banished. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SANDAA BORUTO Posted June 29, 2015 Report Share Posted June 29, 2015 Banned:Blaze Fenix (I thought the OTK was already dead... Why ban it now?)Lavalval Chain (OMG. Wasn't expecting this. But yeah, Chain is broken.)Magical Explosion (Why? its FTK is either dead or horribly inconsistent.) Limited:Chaos Emperor Dragon - Envoy of the End (Errata'd.)Cir, Malebranche of the Burning Abyss (Key hit. This is required to slow BA down.)Dark Magician of Chaos (Errata'd.)Graff, Malebranche of the Burning Abyss (Also a great BA hit.Nekroz of Unicore (This and Valkyrus had become the main centerpieces of Nekroz. Let's see how they fare if they lose 2 of each.)Nekroz of Valkyrus (This and Unicore had become the main centerpieces of Nekroz. Let's see how they fare if they lose 2 of each.)Super Rejuvenation (With D-Rulers gone and Hieratics not meta relevant, this can safely stay at 1.Mind Crush (Safety hit, considering the huge amount of searching the current meta has. I don't know if 1 might be too harsh, but definitely too powerful this format to stay at 3.)Mistake (Well, it's Thunder King in trap form. If TK isn't at 3, this shouldn't be either.) Semi-Limited:Satellarknight Altair (Honestly, I'd like it at 1 more.)Tour Guide from the Underworld (This is the ideal spot for Tour Guide on the list. Not higher, not lower.)El-Shaddoll Construct (I'd like to see her gone like she is in the OCG.)Dragon Ravine (Yes! Only reason this was ever limited was because of D-Rulers. I think it could go to 3 and Dragons would still suck, because they don't have 3 REDMD anymore.)El-Shaddoll Fusion (Cool. Not much to say about it.)Monster Gate (What the hell was this doing at 1? If Reasoning is at 3 and it's pretty much the same card with a different requirement, why isn't this at 3? After all, isn't Reasoning a lot better than this card since it doesn't require a monster on your field?)Reinforcement of the Army (Personally, I think this shouldn't have ever been put at 3, or any higher than 1 for that matter.)Summoner's Art (Because Qliphort. Since no other Qli card can be hit without killing the Deck, let's hit their Scout/Monolith searcher.) Unilimited:Honest (So, Satellars lose one Altair, but gain a 3rd Honest. This is nothing more than a sacky card, so I don't see why it can't be at 3.)Sinister Serpent (Card sucks now, so shouldn't ever be lower than 3.)Charge of the Light Brigade (CotLB at 3 and JD at 3? LIGHTSWORNS TIER 1!!! Jokes aside, I think this is kind of a bad move, especially considering it makes splash this + 3 Ryko in any Deck that makes babies with the grave an engine. I really don't like this at all.)Sacred Sword of Seven Stars (Anyone remind me why was this lower than 3 with the D-Rulers gone?) Supposedly going up tomorrow. Take with a grain of salt. Not too good at all. Especially the bans, they seem quite bad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slinky Posted June 29, 2015 Report Share Posted June 29, 2015 Did you just call Chicken Race FTK incredibly inconsistent? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ihop Posted June 29, 2015 Report Share Posted June 29, 2015 As if it can't function fine with Blasting the Ruins. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slinky Posted June 29, 2015 Report Share Posted June 29, 2015 As if it can't function fine with Blasting the Ruins. Precisely why I said this in previous topics about the FTK. If Explosion gets the axe, they are just going to switch to Blasting the Ruins. Axe them both, or axe Life Equalizer. Or do both, and axe RML alongside it so that the FTK cannot exist in any form whatsoever. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryusei the Morning Star Posted June 29, 2015 Report Share Posted June 29, 2015 Quote:https://www.facebook.com/PJTierneyYGO/posts/1456785267972954?fref=nf Quick comment on all of the F&L list rumours flying about: The current F&L List (which started on April 1) is the one that will be used at this weekend's European Championship. Additionally, do not expect any announcement on a potential future list this week. There will be no updates or new pages added to the EU/OC yugioh-card.com pages this week, except for maybe a final update to the Invited Players List tomorrow. The current list has no publicised end date, so any comments you hear about publication dates or whenever a "new list" goes into effect are simply speculation. Unless you read a comment from an official source (such as Official Yu-Gi-Oh! TRADING CARD GAME (TCG)) please treat any "new F&L list" information as suspicious. Finally, as mentioned previously: The newly-released cards in CROS Advance Edition will be legal for the European Championship. The newly-released cards in Duelist Pack: Battle City are not legal in Europe, and are listed on the Card Legality page. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SANDAA BORUTO Posted June 29, 2015 Report Share Posted June 29, 2015 Precisely why I said this in previous topics about the FTK. If Explosion gets the axe, they are just going to switch to Blasting the Ruins. Axe them both, or axe Life Equalizer. Or do both, and axe RML alongside it so that the FTK cannot exist in any form whatsoever. Ban Chicken Race then. That card should have never been made in the first place. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ihop Posted June 29, 2015 Report Share Posted June 29, 2015 A friend of mine told me that he'd heard from some Konami representative that the banlist will be released the day after Euros - this fits with what PJ is saying, but again, take it with a salt cellar. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryusei the Morning Star Posted June 29, 2015 Report Share Posted June 29, 2015 Why TCG was stupid enough to ban Rejuv and Ravine in the first place is beyond me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ihop Posted June 29, 2015 Report Share Posted June 29, 2015 Why TCG was stupid enough to ban Rejuv Probably something to do with the fact you could quite easily draw 4 per end phase and then draw into another one to draw 4 more. I know you're going to pull out the "that's the fault of the rulers" argument but they just wanted to get everything that caused a problem banned because the format was so awful. Ravine was also ridiculously good, but it wasn't the right choice to ban. Again though, it was just a knee-jerk reaction to the power of rulers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blake Posted June 29, 2015 Author Report Share Posted June 29, 2015 Ban Chicken Race then. That card should have never been made in the first place.Produc. Cycles. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryusei the Morning Star Posted June 29, 2015 Report Share Posted June 29, 2015 Probably something to do with the fact you could quite easily draw 4 per end phase and then draw into another one to draw 4 more. I know you're going to pull out the "that's the fault of the rulers" argument but they just wanted to get everything that caused a problem banned because the format was so awful. Ravine was also ridiculously good, but it wasn't the right choice to ban. Again though, it was just a knee-jerk reaction to the power of rulers.Rejuv has been legal in OCG the entire time. Those +1's off tributing Black Stoneof Legend then discarding for Ravine sure are shaking the meta up Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryusei the Morning Star Posted June 29, 2015 Report Share Posted June 29, 2015 Banned:Blaze FenixLavalval ChainMagical ExplosionLimited:Chaos Emperor Dragon - Envoy of the EndCir, Malebranche of the Burning AbyssDark Magician of ChaosGraff, Malebranche of the Burning AbyssNekroz of UnicoreNekroz of ValkyrusSuper RejuvenationMind CrushMistakeSemi-Limited:Satellarknight AltairTour Guide from the UnderworldEl-Shaddoll ConstructDragon RavineEl-Shaddoll FusionMonster GateReinforcement of the ArmySummoner's ArtUnilimited:HonestSinister SerpentCharge of the Light BrigadeSacred Sword of Seven StarsSupposedly going up tomorrow. Take with a grain of salt.Where did you get this information. Rejuv makes sense as Core pushing. But the erratas? Where's the place to print em Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DuelSpectre Posted June 29, 2015 Report Share Posted June 29, 2015 http://imgur.com/a/Sg3SH Supposed to have been circulating at Nats. Weird things are DMoC/CED with no errata in sight, and the Construct semi. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryusei the Morning Star Posted June 29, 2015 Report Share Posted June 29, 2015 Blaze isn't even a problem tho! It's fine at one!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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