~British Soul~ Posted September 10, 2015 Report Share Posted September 10, 2015 Dragon/Synchro/Effect(This card's original Level is always treated as 12.)Cannot be Synchro Summoned. Must be Special Summoned (from your Extra Deck) by sending 2 Level 5 or higher monsters you control with the same Level to the Graveyard (1 Tuner and 1 non-Tuner), and cannot be Special Summoned by other ways. Once per turn, when a Spell/Trap Card(s) is Set on your side of the field (except during the Damage Step): You can Special Summon 1 "Power Tool" Synchro Monster or 1 Level 7 or 8 Dragon-Type Synchro Monster from your Extra Deck. Cannot be targeted for attacks or by card effects, while you control another Synchro Monster.0/0 So this guy is also getting a reprint in the Clash of Rebellions SE, discuss? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
evilfusion Posted September 10, 2015 Report Share Posted September 10, 2015 Good, because it's always sold out online, and pushing $18. And it's just one of those cards I want for the sake of it, so I don't want to pay that much if I'm not actually using it in a Deck. I'm not too fond of the Summoning Condition though, because I'm not sure how many card combos really can practically produce it. I thought of Quickdraw and Salvage Warrior type things, but if you're doing that, your Extra Deck is too cramped with things you actually want to Summon throughout a Duel to fit enough Signer Dragon theme Synchros to make use of its effect. I do like it can bring out Power Tools, though, or Life Stream. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toffee. Posted September 10, 2015 Report Share Posted September 10, 2015 It's pretty funny how This card is so gimmicky, but it's a lot of gimmicks with a rather large payoff. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tinkerer Posted September 11, 2015 Report Share Posted September 11, 2015 Wow... Speak of the devil... I was talking about using this card in the "Dragon's Bind" discussion. Anyway, I'm glad for this reprint. I have a few Hieratics lying around and was considering making an Ultimaya deck with the Hieratic engine until I saw its price. ...Hieratics ARE still the easiest way to make this, right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
~British Soul~ Posted September 12, 2015 Author Report Share Posted September 12, 2015 So the org has confirmed that the CORE SE is North America-exclusive which is a bit of a pisstake tbph. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neutrality Man Posted September 12, 2015 Report Share Posted September 12, 2015 So the org has confirmed that the CORE SE is North America-exclusive which is a bit of a pisstake tbph. Well then... dust off those Temples of the Kings and Scrap-Iron Scarecrows before they get hit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blake Posted September 12, 2015 Report Share Posted September 12, 2015 Well then... dust off those Temples of the Kings and Scrap-Iron Scarecrows before they get hit.nothing in that deck would be hit, especially not what you mentioned Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
~British Soul~ Posted September 12, 2015 Author Report Share Posted September 12, 2015 Well then... dust off those Temples of the Kings and Scrap-Iron Scarecrows before they get hit.Nah, I'll leave them to collect dust with this development. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toffee. Posted September 12, 2015 Report Share Posted September 12, 2015 Well then... dust off those Temples of the Kings and Scrap-Iron Scarecrows before they get hit.Tzolkin is hardly that gamebreaking. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(GigaDrillBreaker) Posted September 12, 2015 Report Share Posted September 12, 2015 Would the easiest way to summon this be Decatron, sending Piaty or something, which would then summon itself? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tinkerer Posted September 12, 2015 Report Share Posted September 12, 2015 Would the easiest way to summon this be Decatron, sending Piaty or something, which would then summon itself?Doesn't 'tron gain the level of the monster it sends? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(GigaDrillBreaker) Posted September 12, 2015 Report Share Posted September 12, 2015 Doesn't 'tron gain the level of the monster it sends?Probably. Quickdraw and Junk Warrior is workable, though stardust warrior is better than this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goodfusion Posted September 12, 2015 Report Share Posted September 12, 2015 So the org has confirmed that the CORE SE is North America-exclusive which is a bit of a pisstake tbph. A bit of? I'm very annoyed. Oh well, I probably wouldn't really use the cards anyway, they're just cool to have. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
~British Soul~ Posted September 12, 2015 Author Report Share Posted September 12, 2015 A bit of? I'm very annoyed. Oh well, I probably wouldn't really use the cards anyway, they're just cool to have.I was also annoyed with that. I'd rather have had the CORE SE than the crummy in comparison DOCS AE anyday. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
玄魔の王 Posted September 12, 2015 Report Share Posted September 12, 2015 So the org has confirmed that the CORE SE is North America-exclusive which is a bit of a pisstake tbph.Basically, Shueisha controls the distribution of promos in North America through Viz, its subsidiary. They refuse to cede that control, and since they have no branch in Europe (likely because it would mean researching WAY more than 2 legal systems), they're hesitant to allow promos to go to Europe quickly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
~British Soul~ Posted September 12, 2015 Author Report Share Posted September 12, 2015 Basically, Shueisha controls the distribution of promos in North America through Viz, its subsidiary. They refuse to cede that control, and since they have no branch in Europe (likely because it would mean researching WAY more than 2 legal systems), they're hesitant to allow promos to go to Europe quickly.Fair, I still find it silly though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
玄魔の王 Posted September 12, 2015 Report Share Posted September 12, 2015 Fair, I still find it silly though.It is, just pointing out what a pain Shueisha is, even for Konami. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
~British Soul~ Posted September 12, 2015 Author Report Share Posted September 12, 2015 It is, just pointing out what a pain Shueisha is, even for Konami.Agreed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blake Posted September 13, 2015 Report Share Posted September 13, 2015 Only the levels 8+ can summon themselves from the grave, though, which makes this impossible to pull off due to the Infernoids' level clause. You'd need to summon deka, dump a level 5+ and have another copy of it in your hand, and then have a spell/trap to set for Tzolk'in's effect. It can work, but I doubt it's worth the hassle.Um... anything but 1-4 can summon from the grave. Problem is that Piaty and Belphegor (w/e it is now) aren't great, and the need for S/T. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tinkerer Posted September 13, 2015 Report Share Posted September 13, 2015 Um... anything but 1-4 can summon from the grave. Problem is that Piaty and Belphegor (w/e it is now) aren't great, and the need for S/T.That still doesn't solve the problem of the fact that Dekatron would be 1 level higher than the revived Infernoid... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blake Posted September 13, 2015 Report Share Posted September 13, 2015 That still doesn't solve the problem of the fact that Dekatron would be 1 level higher than the revived Infernoid...why do you have to revive what you sent? Why can't it just be fodder for something already in the grave and you planned ahead? Not that difficult. I'm not saying do it, but the OCG has done it, so it's not that bad an idea i ntheory. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mugendramon Posted September 13, 2015 Report Share Posted September 13, 2015 Graydle can already play Temple of Kings because they love to activate Split. They can play Abyss Stungray for Rank 5 or Tzolkin! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(GigaDrillBreaker) Posted September 13, 2015 Report Share Posted September 13, 2015 As opposed to Hieratic, noids have a ton of free ED space, so Tzolkin and a decent package can kinda just be tossed in. Otherwise, you are just weakening your deck with a gimmick-reliant ED. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blake Posted September 13, 2015 Report Share Posted September 13, 2015 As opposed to Hieratic, noids have a ton of free ED space, so Tzolkin and a decent package can kinda just be tossed in. Otherwise, you are just weakening your deck with a gimmick-reliant ED. If you're playing Tzolk'in, you're not playing many Rank 6 Xyz, I think. It's not like Hieratics even need Beatrice all that much, and just one M7 is enough. And Hieratics are very consistent with Tzolk'in. They don't need to sack Dekatron or Reasoning, unlike noids, and they can actually throw two Tzolk'ins on the field. Also, Hieratics have a RotA.both of you need to hold up. First off, Hieratic definitely do ultimata best. Why? It's the most consistent, and it's not like you don't have spare ED space, given the lack of good rank 6 monsters worth running in multiples, bar Atum. HOWEVER, it is completely wrong to say the deck doesn't need Xyz, and I even commented on how this is a poor mindset, and it's mostly generated by Yugitubers. You most definitely want more Xyz than Tzolkin. Atum, Gauntlet Launcher, Ptolemy, Utopia Beyond, Strike Bounzer, Number 72(?), Sword Breaker, and Exa-Beetle all exist, not to mention Gaia Dragon. Don't fall into the trick that the deck doesn't need Xyz, because a lack of Xyz makes it garbage. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(GigaDrillBreaker) Posted September 13, 2015 Report Share Posted September 13, 2015 Best package for Ultimaya is Spark, Scrap, Hot Red, and Moonlight, I think. I don't see a need for anything more. I might be wrong, but that gives you the Spark Scrap combo as well as Moonlight, who acts as a silver bullet, and Hot Red is just a good card. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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