IceDorago Posted December 18, 2011 Report Share Posted December 18, 2011 [quote name='Hydreigoon' timestamp='1324245752' post='5715706'] Hmm, I wonder what Number 25 does. [/quote] SHOOT GIANT CAMERA LAZER CANNONZ!!!!! Might have an effect to verify the face-downs of the opponent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jord200 Posted December 19, 2011 Report Share Posted December 19, 2011 [quote name='Icemare Moon' timestamp='1324250736' post='5715932'] SHOOT GIANT CAMERA LAZER CANNONZ!!!!! Might have an effect to verify the face-downs of the opponent. [/quote] I hope not. We have enough bad Numbers the way it is. Illumiknight, Goldrat, Crimson Shadow, Lucky Stripe, Black Corn, Freezerdon ( IRL one at least ), Terror-Byte, Black Mist, and Giant Killer all aren't worth it or are horrible. Brilliant is ok, just outclassed. So would Syuta count as a Numbers Hunter since he wants to get all of them, or is he just http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/BrainwashedAndCrazy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
evilfusion Posted December 19, 2011 Report Share Posted December 19, 2011 According to Wiki's little article on Numbers Hunters, people possessed by a Number and trying to get more do not count. So he doesn't count because while he wants to collect Numbers, his motives seem to be biased by Number 25, and not his own wishes. Kaito's motive is to help his brother, and he has never shown any indication that Numbers guide his goals. Yuma is collecting them for Astral, so he counts. III, IV, and V are collecting Numbers for revenge against Dr. Faker, and they're similarly uninfluenced by Numbers. Therefore, they count. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IceDorago Posted December 19, 2011 Report Share Posted December 19, 2011 [quote name='Jord200' timestamp='1324258185' post='5716206'] I hope not. We have enough bad Numbers the way it is. Lucky Stripe [/quote] stfu Lucky Stripe is best Numbers. You always win with it until the sun splits in two!!!!! *shot* Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jord200 Posted December 19, 2011 Report Share Posted December 19, 2011 I see. Well then that me say this instead, we know from the spoilers that Kathy makes it to the finals, I doubt Takashi and Tonnsuke will, Tetsuo might make it. Do you think its possible that eventually the rest of Yuma's friends will need to use a Number for some reason? In theory, its a great idea for us to see the other Numbers. Kathy uses Level 1s - Galaxy Queen Tetsuo uses a lot of Level 4s- Shock Ruler Takashi spams Level 3s- Terror-Byte And Kotori. Is she EVER going to do something besides get kidnapped and be a cheerleader? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
evilfusion Posted December 19, 2011 Report Share Posted December 19, 2011 Although it's said Kathy and Yuma passed the preliminaries, it's also said Yuma still needs a Heart Piece(s). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IceDorago Posted December 19, 2011 Report Share Posted December 19, 2011 Kotori and Akari really should duel. Seriously. I really hope Yuma has to give his friends Numbers sometime so that everything besides Hope doesn't sit around gathering dust. (Revise is 3/4 covered in dust.) >.> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
evilfusion Posted December 19, 2011 Report Share Posted December 19, 2011 I hate how protagonists seem to spam their aces so much. Especially since Yuma has like...7 other potential aces he could use. I also note all the other Rank 4 Numbers need 3 Materials. Clearly they can't give Yuma a Rank 4 he'd actually be able to USE. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jord200 Posted December 19, 2011 Report Share Posted December 19, 2011 Yuma can bring out ANY of his Numbers though. Mainly with the Gagagas. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
evilfusion Posted December 19, 2011 Report Share Posted December 19, 2011 Yeah, but if he ever got another Rank 4 with only 2 Materials, he might actually end up PLAYING it instead of Hope, and we all know the writers would hate having to do that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IceDorago Posted December 19, 2011 Report Share Posted December 19, 2011 Except with stuff like Golem surviving then a Goblindbergh combo he could easily make triple Lv.4s. He can obviously also go for Galaxy Queen since he can make Tragon, too. But the writers are lazy fools who don't seem to think that constantly using the same strategy is boring as hell. I mean, it's to the point that I'd literally have a heart attack if Yuma used something besides Hope/Revise (hell, maybe even seeing Revise would cause it at this point), it's just be [i]that [/i]surprising. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Legendary Dragon Posted December 19, 2011 Report Share Posted December 19, 2011 Well, it appears that Yuma doesn't use his normal Numbers when hes against a Non-Numbers user. In that case, you should be dead by now, since you would've had 3 heart attacks! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
evilfusion Posted December 19, 2011 Report Share Posted December 19, 2011 BS Xyz out of nowhere probably wasn't worth a heart attack and more of a groan of "I hate the writers" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IceDorago Posted December 19, 2011 Report Share Posted December 19, 2011 Exactly. His stupid Xyz he pulled out of nowhere just matched the stupidity of the episodes they were used in. I'm obviously talking about him using other Numbers becuase he obviously will never use anything other than Hope and Revise, aand I'm worried he won't ever use the latter again either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
~British Soul~ Posted December 19, 2011 Report Share Posted December 19, 2011 we (i mean the wikia) haz the art for this card (and its stats) [img]http://images4.wikia.nocookie.net/yugioh/images/thumb/6/65/Number25FocusForce-JP-Anime-ZX.png/300px-Number25FocusForce-JP-Anime-ZX.png[/img] 2800/2400 we don't know its effects yet though (probably because the image is blurry) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DARKPLANT RISING Posted December 19, 2011 Report Share Posted December 19, 2011 Activate when your opponent activates the effect of a monster, by detatching 1 of this card's Xyz Materials. Target monster's effs are negated till the End Phase. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Resident Fascist Posted December 19, 2011 Report Share Posted December 19, 2011 [quote name='Darkplant - FEAR' timestamp='1324299183' post='5716936'] Activate when your opponent activates the effect of a monster, by detatching 1 of this card's Xyz Materials. Target monster's effs are negated till the End Phase. [/quote] It's a Veiler?! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
~Tico~ Posted December 19, 2011 Report Share Posted December 19, 2011 If it is, I will rage. We already have enough subpar Numbers without adding in a giant Veiler that you sacrfice two level 6's to put in play. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DARKPLANT RISING Posted December 19, 2011 Report Share Posted December 19, 2011 But TBH I'd summon Messier 7 over this a lot of the time. Depends on opp's deck, tho'. 2800 ATK is pretty nice on it too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
evilfusion Posted December 19, 2011 Report Share Posted December 19, 2011 Called it. [quote name='evilfusion' timestamp='1324234565' post='5715284'] My bet is Number 25 can negate effects somehow. Every duel it has appeared in seemed to involve a player having Set cards, but not being able to do anything about it. And Syuta claimed Yuma will Summon Number 39 during Turn 5, and during Turn 6, Focus Force will win him the duel. Considering Utopia's effect, either Focus Force can negate cards somehow, or Syuta has something to bypass that. [/quote] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Legendary Dragon Posted December 19, 2011 Report Share Posted December 19, 2011 So all recent Numbers suck. Then again, reverse nerf... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
evilfusion Posted December 19, 2011 Report Share Posted December 19, 2011 [quote name='Hydreigoon' timestamp='1324316751' post='5717240'] So all recent Numbers suck. Then again, reverse nerf... [/quote] Most Numbers are plot devices. They usually get slightly modified, for better or worse, for release. Keep in mind that in the anime, Numbers can only be destroyed by Numbers, so...they can be meh and still be "good" in the anime. -Number 17 is the same, but it's unclear if the RL restriction on direct attacks when lacking Overlay Units is also in the anime. -Number 39 is the same, but the RL version is nerfed with the self-destruct clause that definitely does not exist in the anime. -Number 34 is the same. -Number 83 is the same. -Number 61 got nerfed, but the anime version was broken, and the nerfs are reasonable. -Number 19 got its effect changed a bit. Unclear if it's better or worse. -Number 56...we never saw it in action, so it's probably the same. -Number 10 is the same. That is, terrible. -Number 20 is BETTER in RL. The anime version only affected itself. -Number 12 is better in RL. It works on all Ninjas for the entire turn, not just itself. -Number 16 is the same. It's epic. -Number 11 is the same. It's also epic. -Number 96 is generic in RL. It's better now. -Number 30 is better in RL purely because the anime gave it a self-destruct + Burn clause when it's attacked. -Number 7 is better in RL. It still sucks because it s a Rank 7 with 3 Materials and completely based on luck. Number C39 can be SSed regardless of LP score, but can only use its effect when your LP is 1000. It's still better than the anime version because it counteracts Number 39's self-destruct, and stealing your opponent's Utopia is fun. So yeah, seems like the OCG/TCG like reverse nerfing the Numbers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Northern Sage Posted December 19, 2011 Report Share Posted December 19, 2011 OUT. http://www.anime44.com/yu-gi-oh-zexal-episode-36 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
evilfusion Posted December 19, 2011 Report Share Posted December 19, 2011 Decent enough episode. Sadly, next week is the Droit/Gauche vs Yuma, and then they'll take a week off before airing the episode after that...meanies. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IceDorago Posted December 19, 2011 Report Share Posted December 19, 2011 Kaito is a superhero, even though I'm assuming he just saved the blimp under the orders of Faker/Heartland. I liked this episode. Also, I just realized that if Yuma really wanted to be good he could do nothing turn one, then let his opponents nearly kill him next turn (Utopia Ray range), and on turn 3 use Goblindbergh/Katetokage combos to get out Utopia, change it to Ray and then unless they have something 3100+ they lose. It's situational, but it's also the anime. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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