Yeezus Posted August 12, 2013 Report Share Posted August 12, 2013 The list just highlights how bad the current state of the game is Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toffee. Posted August 12, 2013 Report Share Posted August 12, 2013 >Smaller Dragons BannedAside from the fact I'll miss Reactan, that's actually the smarter choice for dealing with that deck; Because the smaller ones are, if not, most of, the deck's speed in general.>Birdman Limitedidgi>Gorz Semi'dI have no comment :/>Mirror Force, Scapegoat, and ARA@3Seems interesting, but also wonky. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Legend Zero Posted August 12, 2013 Report Share Posted August 12, 2013 Lets talk about the deck of every list. GEEBEESTheir struggle is over.EDIT: Instead of taking out the finisher in the loop, they hit the loop enabler? How many loops is birdman involved in? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dog King Posted August 12, 2013 Report Share Posted August 12, 2013 I like how this list did nothing to inzektor ftk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yeezus Posted August 12, 2013 Report Share Posted August 12, 2013 Lets talk about the deck of every list. GEEBEES Their struggle is over. EDIT: Instead of taking out the finisher in the loop, they hit the loop enabler? How many loops is birdman involved in? GBs still won't do anything Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toffee. Posted August 12, 2013 Report Share Posted August 12, 2013 EDIT: Instead of taking out the finisher in the loop, they hit the loop enabler? How many loops is birdman involved in?Methinks they didn't want any Divine Wind shenanigans.But like... Why not just remove Wind all together? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eury Posted August 12, 2013 Report Share Posted August 12, 2013 I don't know why they just didn't ban or limit Blaze Fenix. That would have made so much more sense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premier Alexander Romanov Posted August 12, 2013 Report Share Posted August 12, 2013 I like this banlist.It gets rid of any deck that utilized Dragon Rulers while also limiting the power of 3-Axis, Mermails, and Spellbooks, and bringing back Trishula, an old Synchro favorite.Did I just make an intelligent analysis of the banlist?OwOMaybe I shouldn't leave after all... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yeezus Posted August 12, 2013 Report Share Posted August 12, 2013 I like this banlist. It gets rid of any deck that utilized Dragon Rulers while also limiting the power of 3-Axis, Mermails, and Spellbooks, and bringing back Trishula, an old Synchro favorite. Did I just make an intelligent analysis of the banlist? OwO Maybe I shouldn't leave after all... No, because you failed to pick up that Gorz to 2 is stupid and said that Trish coming back was a good idea... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Legend Zero Posted August 12, 2013 Report Share Posted August 12, 2013 ——Posted by the man trusted by "Mr.snake"Some changes seems still remain to be seen....Seems [YGOCARD]Chaos Sorcerer[/YGOCARD] and Tenki are Semi-Limited .Rooster's limit is repeated.[YGOCARD]Deep Sea Diva[/YGOCARD]'s unchange is repeated.This is still under investigation. Seems Snake/Psh is still posting in 2ch.EDIT: Gorz 2 is weird, but not stupid. I don't think Trish coming back is bad, considering nothing can loop it. What is a konami list without its share of "oh, ok. :I"Banlist is the best I've seen for a while. Not perfect but fun. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premier Alexander Romanov Posted August 12, 2013 Report Share Posted August 12, 2013 No, because you failed to pick up that Gorz to 2 is stupid and said that Trish coming back was a good idea...I don't think Gorz at 2 is that bad. It can't really be used for much, other than filling in the holes left behind by the Dragon Rulers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
.Leo Posted August 12, 2013 Report Share Posted August 12, 2013 ——Posted by the man trusted by "Mr.snake" Some changes seems still remain to be seen.... Seems [YGOCARD]Chaos Sorcerer[/YGOCARD] and Tenki are Semi-Limited . Rooster's limit is repeated. [YGOCARD]Deep Sea Diva[/YGOCARD]'s unchange is repeated. This is still under investigation. Seems Snake/Psh is still posting in 2ch. EDIT: Gorz 2 is weird, but not stupid. I don't think Trish coming back is bad, considering nothing can loop it. What is a konami list without its share of "oh, ok. :I"  Chaos Sorcerer at 2 seems interesting. I still don't like Gorz at 2 though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Hounds Of Anubis Posted August 12, 2013 Report Share Posted August 12, 2013 I don't think Gorz at 2 is that bad. It can't really be used for much, other than filling in the holes left behind by the Dragon Rulers.Fuck off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Legend Zero Posted August 12, 2013 Report Share Posted August 12, 2013 My only thought is that konami thinks that 2 Gorz will slow down the game, pleasing the player base. They're trying to use their heads as much as possible. *shrug*EDIT: Disregard the Chaos Sorc stuff, been debunk in 2 forums. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premier Alexander Romanov Posted August 12, 2013 Report Share Posted August 12, 2013 Fuck off.No.After having a breakdown yesterday, I am actually attempting to have a legitimate discussion with this forum, only to get rebuked.I stand by what I said. I mean, we have so much stuff that can take care of Gorz or simply make it not work that it doesn't really matter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Legend Zero Posted August 12, 2013 Report Share Posted August 12, 2013 This will not turn into a flame war, so Chris....I'm watching you. Be civilized. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yeezus Posted August 12, 2013 Report Share Posted August 12, 2013 There's a few questionable changes, but banning Judgement and the babies is a good step. I still think a bit more needs to be done but apart from that it's alright. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premier Alexander Romanov Posted August 12, 2013 Report Share Posted August 12, 2013 This will not turn into a flame war, so Chris....I'm watching you. Be civilized.Thank you.Also, was it better to ban the baby Rulers, or should the bigger ones have been taken care of instead? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Airride Posted August 12, 2013 Report Share Posted August 12, 2013 My thoughts on the list: Â Bans Babies - This is good. Very, very good. I like it. Jugement - The most logical hit, since it's basically the thing that made the deck broke. Â Limits Rooster - ...Huh. Good choice, but...huh. Birdman - ...Konami, you are dead to me. DEAD TO ME! Abyssteus - ...Eh, okay? Shark - ...This seems like a strange hit. Trishula - ...Wat. Big Eye - Good. Hitting this stupid card makes me happy. Divine Wind - (See Birdman) Super Rejuv - Bye Bye Dragon Exodia! Also, super broken draws. Sphere - ...Okay then. Â Semis Bestari - ...This seems a bit risky. Gorz - ...Am...am I reading this list correctly? Why would they do this? Grand Mole - Meh, whatever. Seems cool. Black Whirlwind - ...Seems a little odd. Â Unlimits Tskuyomi - ...Alright then. Magician - ...What the heck? Why would they swap this and shark? ARA - This, I'm okay with. for now. E-Call - ...Not sure what to think of this. Duality - Good Konami. You actually did something good besides the banned section of this list and a couple other things. Scapegoat - ...Why? Mirror Force - ...Nobody will use it still. Â Overall, Its kind of a "meh" list to me other than the murdering of Prophecy and E. Rulers. It's just...not very good other than those, in my opinion. Prolly won't really push me to get much back into the game, especially considering it just killed the only semi-viable form of genex. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Althemia Posted August 12, 2013 Author Report Share Posted August 12, 2013 Thank you.Also, was it better to ban the baby Rulers, or should the bigger ones have been taken care of instead?Everyone already agreed that the Babies should have been hit. Like really, there's no point in hitting the big dragons when they're not the problem?The only thing I'm truly worried about is Gorz at 2. That doesn't seem like a correct move. Everything else is fine to me, maybe Trish is a little bit wobbly but even then. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Legend Zero Posted August 12, 2013 Report Share Posted August 12, 2013 I think Scapegoat is because they watch DN/DGZ and how popular Goat format has become. XDBaby rulers were the best hit, because the daddys can still be Attribute support. (LIKE THEY WERE INTENDED)EDIT: I think everyone is worried about the Gorz @2. The worst part about the list. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sora1499 Posted August 12, 2013 Report Share Posted August 12, 2013 Welp, looks like Wind-Ups will reprise their role in the meta. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yeezus Posted August 12, 2013 Report Share Posted August 12, 2013 Mole to 2 > All other changes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
evilfusion Posted August 12, 2013 Report Share Posted August 12, 2013 I don't think Gorz at 2 is that bad. It can't really be used for much, other than filling in the holes left behind by the Dragon Rulers. Â Just for clarification, Gorz is constantly cited as being terrible design because it does too much for too little (taking damage when your Field is empty) and can actually reward bad playing, because you drop a 2700 monster, plus a Token that could possibly be stronger than Gorz itself. It stops OTKs, but not in a healthy way. Â It will NOT fill in the holes by Dragon Rulers. Â Not sure how much it'll change by being put to 2, but Gorz is frequently said to be a card that should be put to 0, not 2. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premier Alexander Romanov Posted August 12, 2013 Report Share Posted August 12, 2013 I think Scapegoat is because they watch DN/DGZ and how popular Goat format has become. XDBaby rulers were the best hit, because the daddys can still be Attribute support. (LIKE THEY WERE INTENDED)EDIT: I think everyone is worried about the Gorz @2. The worst part about the list.Ah. I never got the chance to really explore Dragon Rulers.Just for clarification, Gorz is constantly cited as being terrible design because it does too much for too little (taking damage when your Field is empty) and can actually reward bad playing, because you drop a 2700 monster, plus a Token that could possibly be stronger than Gorz itself. It stops OTKs, but not in a healthy way.It will NOT fill in the holes by Dragon Rulers.Not sure how much it'll change by being put to 2, but Gorz is frequently said to be a card that should be put to 0, not 2.Ah. And this is why I consider you a very good friend, evilfusion.So how should decks be changed to match Gorz being Semi-Limited?Would it really take much to counter such a massive imending threat upon the meta? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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