heraldry_lord Posted December 16, 2014 Report Share Posted December 16, 2014 Newly Forbidden: Heavy Storm (was limited) Newly Limited: Chaos Emperor Dragon – Envoy of the End (was banned) Sinister Serpent (was banned) Blaze Fenix, the Heavy Bombardment Bird (was unlimited) Senju of the Thousand Hands (was unlimited) Manju of the Ten Thousand Hands (was unlimited) The Nekroz of Unicore (was unlimited) Instant Fusion (was unlimited) Temple of the Kings (was banned) Preparation of Rites (was unlimited) Symbols of Heritage (was unlimited) Super Polymerization (was unlimited) Harpie’s Feather Duster (was banned) Exchange of the Spirit (was banned) Crush Card Virus (was banned) Ring of Destruction (was banned) Newly Semi-Limited: Inzektor Hornet (was limited) Atlantean Dragoons (was limited) Number 11: Big Eye (was limited) Brotherhood of the Fire Fist – Rooster (was limited) Monster Gate (was limited) Newly Unlimited: Evilswarm Ophion (was semi-limited) Chronomaly Nebra Disk (was semi-limited) Card Trooper (was semi-limited) TG Striker (was limited) Tragoedia (was semi-limited) Lonefire Blossom (was semi-limited) Hieratic Seal of Convocation (was semi-limited) A Hero Lives! (was semi-limited) Ojama Trio (was semi-limited) NB: "Chaos Emperor Dragon - Envoy of the End", "Sinister Serpent", "Ring of Destruction", "Crush Card Virus", "Exchange of the Spirit" and "Temple of the Kings" are all getting errata. Source: https://ygorganization.wpengine.com/thetruelimit/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maeriberii Haan Posted December 16, 2014 Report Share Posted December 16, 2014 Wait, it's confirmed now? damn. So OCG's position as the format with fully experimental list is still undisputed. Also, all the old deck pandering, Infernoid pandering, and still barely any Qliphort hits bar Harpie's returning. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premier Alexander Romanov Posted December 16, 2014 Report Share Posted December 16, 2014 Could you post where they are moving from? That would be a bit helpful, please. Also, CED is Limited? That's a bit scary. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JessicaMuddy Posted December 16, 2014 Report Share Posted December 16, 2014 Heavy Storm - Banned Harpie's Feather Duster - Limited Seems like either logic went on a holiday or Feather Duster will change to be more balanced. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UltimateIRS Posted December 16, 2014 Report Share Posted December 16, 2014 Heavy Storm - Banned Harpie's Feather Duster - Limited Seems like either logic went on a holiday or Feather Duster will change to be more balanced. Neither. Logic was not present to begin with. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trebuchet MS Posted December 16, 2014 Report Share Posted December 16, 2014 >Bunch of Forbidden cards coming back What the f-- >They will be getting errata'd ...Now my curiosity's piqued. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aerion Brightflame Posted December 16, 2014 Report Share Posted December 16, 2014 Heavy Storm - Banned Harpie's Feather Duster - Limited Seems like either logic went on a holiday or Feather Duster will change to be more balanced. The probable reason is a mixture of Pendulum decks like Quiploth apparently nuking there own stuff after Pendulum Summons to allow them to Xyz (I say apparently, because I have no idea, it's just something I was told), and the fact Harpies are getting more support. So there is logic behind it, just not conventional logic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Azuh Posted December 16, 2014 Report Share Posted December 16, 2014 Tbh I dont understand why they limited Senju and Manju. Its disgusting when Konami hits random techs because money Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Agro Posted December 16, 2014 Report Share Posted December 16, 2014 This is the most balanced list the OCG has made in years. lawl Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super Chaos Sonic Posted December 16, 2014 Report Share Posted December 16, 2014 And they limited Super Poly...again...and these are the struggles of using a HERO deck are real _-_ And Envoy of the End is finally unbanned...? Jeez, I never thought I'd see the day! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
evilfusion Posted December 16, 2014 Report Share Posted December 16, 2014 The only card that got banned was Heavy Storm... And they unbanned a bunch of really powerful cards that got erratas. I don't even know. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blake Posted December 16, 2014 Report Share Posted December 16, 2014 Tbh I dont understand why they limited Senju and Manju. Its disgusting when Konami hits random techs because money "random techs" You mean 5-6 cards in every Nekroz deck? They literally cut out 7-8 cards of the deck, with all of the hits. It makes Kaleidomirror and Nyarla worse, which makes the early game for the deck weaker. They only have 2 stratos total and 1 super RotA, and only 1 Unicore. Hitting them makes sense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Expelsword Posted December 16, 2014 Report Share Posted December 16, 2014 Also, all the old deck pandering, Infernoid pandering, and still barely any Qliphort hits bar Harpie's returning. Infernoid pandering? I suppose you mean Reasoning and Monster Gate not Limited? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blake Posted December 16, 2014 Report Share Posted December 16, 2014 Infernoid pandering? I suppose you mean Reasoning and Monster Gate not Limited? Monster Gate and Card Teooper Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maeriberii Haan Posted December 16, 2014 Report Share Posted December 16, 2014 Infernoid pandering? I suppose you mean Reasoning and Monster Gate not Limited? Reasoning's already been at 3 in OCG before. Was referring to Troop and Gate, but yeah, pandering might be a bit too much of a stretch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Expelsword Posted December 16, 2014 Report Share Posted December 16, 2014 Reasoning's already been at 3 in OCG before. Was referring to Troop and Gate, but yeah, pandering might be a bit too much of a stretch. Oooh I didn't even see that. Troop Dupe Scoop returns. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greiga Posted December 16, 2014 Report Share Posted December 16, 2014 Hitting Necloth so soon? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Azuh Posted December 16, 2014 Report Share Posted December 16, 2014 I think the most annoying decision about these errata is that Konami hasn't even bothered to fix Substitoad or Mind Master with hard once per turn clauses. Can't wait for that Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toffee. Posted December 16, 2014 Report Share Posted December 16, 2014 I think the most annoying decision about these errata is that Konami hasn't even bothered to fix Substitoad or Mind Master with hard once per turn clauses. Can't wait for thatJust shut up and take my feels.Though, to be fair, I like how they are experimenting with some of more infamously busted ones, which is an amusing start. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lonk Posted December 16, 2014 Report Share Posted December 16, 2014 >Fixing Chaos Emperor Dragon so it wouldn't be as bad. >Didn't do much to it in terms of nerfing it and unbanned it. Yeah, I'm pretty sure this is what Konami was thinking at the time: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rl-rcmNLv8k Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sleepy Posted December 17, 2014 Report Share Posted December 17, 2014 Sooo no word on the erratas they have planned? I feel bad that I won't be able to put Chaos Emperor Dragon as a bad example anymore if they go this far.... I mean, as an example of why it'd be stupid to unban it...... Edit: Oh.... I saw...... oh... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SANDAA BORUTO Posted December 17, 2014 Report Share Posted December 17, 2014 Newly Forbidden: Heavy Storm (was limited) I believe we're even, OCG. Newly Limited: Chaos Emperor Dragon – Envoy of the End (was banned) Should have stayed on the list. The nerf was minimal. Sinister Serpent (was banned) I think this shouldn't be banned even if it wasn't nerfed. Blaze Fenix, the Heavy Bombardment Bird (was unlimited) GG Blaze Fenix OTK. This was a needed move. Senju of the Thousand Hands (was unlimited) They can hit the problem cards in Nekroz. They hit this instead. Wut. Manju of the Ten Thousand Hands (was unlimited) See above. The Nekroz of Unicore (was unlimited) Damn, this was a hard hit on Nekroz. Konami no like Nekroz. Instant Fusion (was unlimited) Instant Fusion? Can I call that a Shaddoll hit since it can bring out Winda? I suppose so. Temple of the Kings (was banned) Was nerfed and is now balanced, so good move. Preparation of Rites (was unlimited) God dang it, Konami, are Nekroz Tier 0 in the OCG or what? Symbols of Heritage (was unlimited) Uh... I don't know why they hit this, honestly. Super Polymerization (was unlimited) They did the same thing in the west, so expected move. Harpie’s Feather Duster (was banned) They're doing with this what they did with Raigeki in the west. Only here, they didn't ban Dark Hole. Exchange of the Spirit (was banned) Was nerfed and is now balanced, so good move. Crush Card Virus (was banned) I didn't like the nerf at all, but it's balanced, so no need to be banned. Ring of Destruction (was banned) Was nerfed, is now balanced, so good move. Newly Semi-Limited: Inzektor Hornet (was limited) Are Inzektors still a Deck? Atlantean Dragoons (was limited) Dangerous move, but let's see how it plays out. Number 11: Big Eye (was limited) The main reason this was at 1 was Dragon Rulers. Since they are no longer a Deck, it can go up a spot. But no 3 for it anytime soon. Brotherhood of the Fire Fist – Rooster (was limited) I don't think Fire Fists need this anymore. Monster Gate (was limited) I forgot this card existed. Newly Unlimited: Evilswarm Ophion (was semi-limited) Why was this at 2 again? Chronomaly Nebra Disk (was semi-limited) The OCG-only trigger for a bad Deck. Why was it at 2? Card Trooper (was semi-limited) Finally! I hope the TCG does this too. TG Striker (was limited) At long last. Tragoedia (was semi-limited) Is Trago at 2 or 3 in the TCG? I think 2, and I think it's time for it to go to 3 here too. Konami of Japan thinks so too. Lonefire Blossom (was semi-limited) I agree with this one. Hieratic Seal of Convocation (was semi-limited) This is going to turn into the Chaos Sorcerer of Spell Cards pretty soon. A Hero Lives! (was semi-limited) Are HEROes even played anymore? Ojama Trio (was semi-limited) To 3 in the TCG too, please! All in all, an excellent list. I wish most of these changes affect the TCG as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jord200 Posted January 4, 2015 Report Share Posted January 4, 2015 I hope to God Nekroz don't get hit that hard in the TCG........ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maeriberii Haan Posted January 5, 2015 Report Share Posted January 5, 2015 I hope to God Nekroz don't get hit that hard in the TCG........ They're still ridiculously effective even with the nerf to the consistency. Don't forget that Necloth's level of consistency is completely almost something unheard of before. Even with all of these hits, they're still consistent enough. They can actually brick more now though, which is nice. Not to mention missing Nyarla combo, which might or might not be relevant enough. So yeah. The hits were nowhere near to something I'd call hard. Tell me when they hit brionac if you want something that really hurts the deck. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jord200 Posted January 5, 2015 Report Share Posted January 5, 2015 They're still ridiculously effective even with the nerf to the consistency. Don't forget that Necloth's level of consistency is completely almost something unheard of before. Even with all of these hits, they're still consistent enough. They can actually brick more now though, which is nice. Not to mention missing Nyarla combo, which might or might not be relevant enough. So yeah. The hits were nowhere near to something I'd call hard. Tell me when they hit brionac if you want something that really hurts the deck. Oh. I see. Interesting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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