The Highlander Posted May 14, 2015 Report Share Posted May 14, 2015 Very few cover cards are all that good. Overall, I'm happy with Caesar Ragnarok. Kali Yuga is a bit tough now, but Baphomet should fix that. If he stays true to the anime. Amazing cover cards include: odd-eyes, stardust dragon, rune-eyes pendulum dragon (you all know why right ?), dark rebellion xyz dragon, odd-eyes rebellion dragon, clear wing synchro dragon, Judgement Dragon, number 62: galaxy eyes prime photon dragon, black rose dragon, honest, power tool dragon, ancient fairy dragon, junk berserker, shooting star dragon (for quasar), (number c39), number 17: leviathan dragon, heroic champion - excalibur, Number c101: silent honor DARK, ... half of zexal were good, half of 5ds and every single cover card of arc v are good (why suddenly stop that). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
玄魔の王 Posted May 14, 2015 Report Share Posted May 14, 2015 If he stays true to the anime. Amazing cover cards include: odd-eyes, stardust dragon, rune-eyes pendulum dragon (you all know why right ?), dark rebellion xyz dragon, odd-eyes rebellion dragon, clear wing synchro dragon, Judgement Dragon, number 62: galaxy eyes prime photon dragon, black rose dragon, honest, power tool dragon, ancient fairy dragon, junk berserker, shooting star dragon (for quasar), (number c39), number 17: leviathan dragon, heroic champion - excalibur, Number c101: silent honor DARK, ... half of zexal were good, half of 5ds and every single cover card of arc v are good (why suddenly stop that). What definition of "good" are you using? Because if we define "good" as "can actually be used against/in meta decks", half that list goes away. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
~British Soul~ Posted May 14, 2015 Report Share Posted May 14, 2015 If he stays true to the anime. Amazing cover cards include: odd-eyes, stardust dragon, rune-eyes pendulum dragon (you all know why right ?), dark rebellion xyz dragon, odd-eyes rebellion dragon, clear wing synchro dragon, Judgement Dragon, number 62: galaxy eyes prime photon dragon, black rose dragon, honest, power tool dragon, ancient fairy dragon, junk berserker, shooting star dragon (for quasar), number c39, number 17: leviathan dragon, heroic champion - excalibur, Number c101: silent honor DARK, ... half of zexal were good, half of 5ds and every single cover card of arc v are good (why suddenly stop that). Judgment Dragon wasn't a cover card if I recall correctly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flash Flyer - Sakura Posted May 14, 2015 Report Share Posted May 14, 2015 Judgment Dragon wasn't a cover card if I recall correctly. It wasn't; that spot went to Honest. For cover cards (since it appears we're talking about Kali Yuga being a potential one here), again we'll have to see if this set gives D/D's more Level 8 support to make his summon possible. It already is, but just that there are better things to be doing with both Ragnaroks (and Hell Armageddon is terrible). They could've probably left it at 2 Level 8 Fiends like they did with Caesar (Tell is generic); but I suppose it's like this due to possible Dark World abuse or something (since they also fill the conditions) that it mandates D/D's. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(GigaDrillBreaker) Posted May 14, 2015 Report Share Posted May 14, 2015 Double ragnorok into this guy isn't optimal, but I don't think some of you realize how immensely powerful he is. He gives you two battle phases where the opponent has no backrow. In D/D/D, that often means you simply win. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
~British Soul~ Posted May 14, 2015 Report Share Posted May 14, 2015 It wasn't; that spot went to Honest. I know. But there might've been a set where JD could've been a cover card, but there isn't, so yeah. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Highlander Posted May 14, 2015 Report Share Posted May 14, 2015 Judgment Dragon wasn't a cover card if I recall correctly. Mixed him up with honest. What definition of "good" are you using? Because if we define "good" as "can actually be used against/in meta decks", half that list goes away. Odd-Eyes rebellion is at least playable in his own deck (odd-eyes magicians) and definitely worth the summon requirements. Galaxy Eyes ( as well as number 107) fullfill the summon requirements of full armor photon dragon and dark matter, which was quite powerful with the dragon rulers. Ancient Fairy Dragon and Power Tool Dragon is very powerful in (ftk) loops and was part of the divine mist loop. If I recall correctly some tengu plants played it. Number 39 might not be too strong, however it is not a burden to its own archetype and can be used to extend plays (as well as number s39). Shooting Star Dragon is a free 3.3k body after one loses a quasar and sometimes enough to increase the pressure enough to win the game (after quasar goes down). Dark Rebellion is a generic 2 mat rank 4, which can be used to run over leo (the level 10 synchro) as well as weaken problematic monsters. Junk Berserker is a the best level 7 synchron option for synchron decks. Excalibur was useful for a while (being a 4k attacker without too much of a downside). Silent Honor DARK is one of the best chaos numbers (alongside number c107) and a great target for RUM - Limited Barians Force and a good tech. for heraldics etc. Do I need to go one ? The current support for Kali Yuga is not enough to make him playable and one would have to weaken the own deck on purpose to actually be able to summon him (with the current support). (Then again we might just wait to see if the support he might get in this booster would justify his summoning conditions). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
~British Soul~ Posted May 14, 2015 Report Share Posted May 14, 2015 Mixed him up with honest. Thought so, though you did mention Honest in the same line. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Highlander Posted May 14, 2015 Report Share Posted May 14, 2015 Thought so, though you did mention Honest in the same line. Well I remembered both to be on the cover of boosters, so I guess that is the issue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
~British Soul~ Posted May 14, 2015 Report Share Posted May 14, 2015 Well I remembered both to be on the cover of boosters, so I guess that is the issue. I don't remember JD being a cover card though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Highlander Posted May 14, 2015 Report Share Posted May 14, 2015 I don't remember JD being a cover card though. Memories can be flawed and sometimes entirely imagination. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
~British Soul~ Posted May 14, 2015 Report Share Posted May 14, 2015 Memories can be flawed and sometimes entirely imagination. After double-checking, I can confirm that you were merely mistaken about JD. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mshends Posted May 14, 2015 Report Share Posted May 14, 2015 British Soul does JD not being a cover card bother you that much. The Highlander just makes a small mistake and you seem to like to point that out, a lot. Just let it go (don't want this to turn into another JD crisis) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Highlander Posted May 14, 2015 Report Share Posted May 14, 2015 To be quite honest I forgot the most important argument which applies for Kali Yuga, he sets up the graveyard for further plays (as D/Ds often tend to love the grave more than the extar deck) especially with ragnarok's pendulum effect. Thus I actually have to admit that he would be no awful cover card and continue the line of actually usable/good (for the own archtype) cover cards. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
~British Soul~ Posted May 14, 2015 Report Share Posted May 14, 2015 To be fair, I wouldn't mind one of these D/D/D's be a cover card tbh. I mean every Arc-V main series set has had a dragon as a cover card, it'd make a nice change. (since the last time we had a no-dragon cover was C101) British Soul does JD not being a cover card bother you that much? The Highlander just makes a small mistake and you seem to like to point that out, a lot. Just let it go (don't want this to turn into another JD crisis) I didn't mean for it to turn into a quote war. It wasn't meant to be that big a deal anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yellow Jacket Posted May 14, 2015 Report Share Posted May 14, 2015 Even though I'm all for the Odd-Eyes monsters and his dimensional counterparts, I would love it if this guy was the cover card. It would give a reason for konami to start making D/D/D monsters over in the tcg. Speaking of that, does anyone know or want to tell me why we don't have the D/D/D's over in the tcg yet? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toffee. Posted May 14, 2015 Report Share Posted May 14, 2015 Both of these are really damn cool. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
evilfusion Posted May 14, 2015 Report Share Posted May 14, 2015 I expect the TCG will start getting D/Ds very soon, because CORE includes D'Arc in the core set. Plus those 2 character structures that are really underwhelming come out soon, giving a good opportunity to introduce D/Ds ASAP. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yellow Jacket Posted May 14, 2015 Report Share Posted May 14, 2015 Cool, because my brother wants to try out the D/D's and I've got nothing better to do than just wait for my damn Magician Pendulum crap and Rebellion Dragon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maeriberii Haan Posted May 15, 2015 Report Share Posted May 15, 2015 Night Howling into Ragnarok into Hell Armageddon have ragnarok tribute howling to banish 1 then Xyz for Kali Yuga. Is that a feasible play? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
evilfusion Posted May 15, 2015 Report Share Posted May 15, 2015 Night Howling into Ragnarok into Hell Armageddon have ragnarok tribute howling to banish 1 then Xyz for Kali Yuga. Is that a feasible play? What are D/D/D Pendulum monsters doing in the Graveyard? That's a serious question because I'm not super familiar with D/D/D tactics. Night Howling and Ragnarok both SS from the Graveyard, but Ragnarok and Hell Armageddon are both Pendulum monsters that somehow are in the Graveyard. I suppose Fusion works to do that, but I think we already established that relying on Hell Armageddon is mediocre. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Highlander Posted May 15, 2015 Report Share Posted May 15, 2015 What are D/D/D Pendulum monsters doing in the Graveyard? That's a serious question because I'm not super familiar with D/D/D tactics. Night Howling and Ragnarok both SS from the Graveyard, but Ragnarok and Hell Armageddon are both Pendulum monsters that somehow are in the Graveyard. I suppose Fusion works to do that, but I think we already established that relying on Hell Armageddon is mediocre. You send them from your hand with covenant with the swamp king (with ragnarok's pendulum effect and night howling, as well as temujin and alexander it should be obvious that the graveyard is much easier, for revival) in fact you do not complete your pendulum scales unless you have enough cards in your extra deck. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
evilfusion Posted May 15, 2015 Report Share Posted May 15, 2015 You send them from your hand with covenant with the swamp king (with ragnarok's pendulum effect and night howling, as well as temujin and alexander it should be obvious that the graveyard is much easier, for revival) in fact you do not complete your pendulum scales unless you have enough cards in your extra deck. Yeah, that was one of those posts where you (me in this case) realize there's a glaringly obvious answer to the confusion, yet can't be bothered fixing it before someone sees it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
玄魔の王 Posted May 15, 2015 Report Share Posted May 15, 2015 I just realised something important about Kali Yuga. Because its negation effect doesn't activate, the opponent can't Bottomless or Torrential Tribute (or whatever) this card, and you can activate the destruction effect wthout worry. Furthermore, you can activate the set from Grave effect, chain the destruction effect, and have your Covenant protected. This has no bearing on summoning him, but it's worth noting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heraldry_lord Posted May 15, 2015 Report Share Posted May 15, 2015 This has no bearing on summoning him, but it's worth noting. Maybe IRL Baphomet will make him easier. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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