LK96 Posted May 29, 2016 Report Share Posted May 29, 2016 Heavy-Armored Train Iron WolfRank 4 EARTH Machine-type2200 / 2200 2 Level 4 Machine-Type monstersOnce per turn: You can detach 1 Xyz Material from this card, then target 1 Machine-Type monster you control; this turn, it can attack your opponent directly. Discuss. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flash Flyer - Sakura Posted May 29, 2016 Report Share Posted May 29, 2016 Well, I suppose that theory that Allan was using Trains like Anna actually came true. On that note, current Trains don't even want this card (or rather, don't have space because this is R4 and they do mostly 10s), even though direct attacking is nice. Still gotta see what else he pulls out, but I don't know if those will add anything. For Rank 4 Machines, guess they could find some space for this (for MPBs, I could try to find a slot for them in case there's the opportunity to make it [without the Tokens]). Not sure on other things though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thomas★Zero Posted May 29, 2016 Report Share Posted May 29, 2016 This looks like its going to be turned to be using 2 Xyz Materials instead of 1 for using its effect if made for the OCG/TCG basically with that ATK and how it can become 3000 beat stick direct attacker with Express Train Trolley Olly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neutrality Man Posted May 29, 2016 Report Share Posted May 29, 2016 This can make a 7600 direct attack happen in SHS. Susanowo already on board, NS Scales, Special Blue Brawler, Soulpiercer, Magnet, or Kabuto. Overlay for Train, target Susanowo, drop Soul Buster Gaunlet Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toffee. Posted May 29, 2016 Report Share Posted May 29, 2016 >Detaches to let a Machine attack directly Oh, you know, it's not like Gustaph/Dora/etc exist or anything. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VCR_CAT Posted May 29, 2016 Report Share Posted May 29, 2016 Yeah, they'll need to boost the R4 capabilities of Trains if they want Trains to actually use this; but it's at least something new for R4 machines. Keeps GGX some company. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heraldry_lord Posted May 29, 2016 Report Share Posted May 29, 2016 >Detaches to let a Machine attack directly Oh, you know, it's not like Gustaph/Dora/etc exist or anything. On the other hand, Trains aren't very good at Rank 4 right now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
玄魔の王 Posted May 29, 2016 Report Share Posted May 29, 2016 On the other hand, Trains aren't very good at Rank 4 right now.But CyDras can. Enjoy that 4200 Nova to the face. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VCR_CAT Posted May 29, 2016 Report Share Posted May 29, 2016 Overall, this card isn't bad by any means; it's just that other decks make a better use out of it than actual Trains. Like ABC for instance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryusei the Morning Star Posted May 29, 2016 Report Share Posted May 29, 2016 Yeah, they'll need to boost the R4 capabilities of Trains if they want Trains to actually use this; but it's at least something new for R4 machines. Keeps GGX some company.Gadgets? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heraldry_lord Posted May 29, 2016 Report Share Posted May 29, 2016 But CyDras can. Enjoy that 4200 Nova to the face. You say that as if CyDras can't OTK you regardless. But yes, it'd be annoying. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Progenitor Posted May 30, 2016 Report Share Posted May 30, 2016 It's probably gonna get something like "but only that monster can declare an attack this turn" or something slapped on the remove a bit of the raw stupidness. Honestly it's a bit bland. I kinda wanna see it do something else, but I have no idea what Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goodfusion Posted May 31, 2016 Report Share Posted May 31, 2016 It's probably gonna get something like "but only that monster can declare an attack this turn" or something slapped on the remove a bit of the raw stupidness. But then it would just be a less generic Number 82: Heartlandraco that is able to get out more damage. It would still be good, but just wouldn't really add anything new to anything. Quick ruling question: Can I target a Barbaroid the Ultimate Battle Machine with this? If so can it attack directly regardless of its effect? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toffee. Posted May 31, 2016 Report Share Posted May 31, 2016 Alright, I got it- Normal Summon Gold/Silver Gadget -> Special Summon Railcar from hand Special Summon Derricrane from hand -> Special Summon 2nd Derricrane from hand 2x Crane make Dora Gold/Silver + Rail make This ????????? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VCR_CAT Posted May 31, 2016 Report Share Posted May 31, 2016 Derricrane has a hard OPT to his summon effect. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toffee. Posted May 31, 2016 Report Share Posted May 31, 2016 Derricrane has a hard OPT to his summon effect.Shhh, pretend it doesnt :^) .... Or just have Switchyard already present. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VCR_CAT Posted May 31, 2016 Report Share Posted May 31, 2016 Shhh, pretend it doesnt :^) .... Or just have Switchyard already present. then you can't deal battle damage if you use that effect, or you're sitting on Iron Wolf and hoping it survives. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest BGMCANN0N Posted June 1, 2016 Report Share Posted June 1, 2016 Why is it that a lot of Type exclusive Xyz's are not very impressive in what they do? e.g. Fairy Cheer Girl only gives draw power with a small body, Inferno Flame Vixen has a real awkward effect, Comics Hero Arthur is overshadowed by everything, Alchemic Magician barely makes up for the materials she uses, and this does Heartdraco's effect a little bit better (barring what they do with it if they decide to release it in TCG/OCG) :/ I mean it is probably too early to judge it now considering it is only in the anime... But, Konami... Seriously, give us more incentive to use these Type exclusives. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Azuh Posted June 2, 2016 Report Share Posted June 2, 2016 Why is it that a lot of Type exclusive Xyz's are not very impressive in what they do? e.g. Fairy Cheer Girl only gives draw power with a small body, Inferno Flame Vixen has a real awkward effect, Comics Hero Arthur is overshadowed by everything, Alchemic Magician barely makes up for the materials she uses, and this does Heartdraco's effect a little bit better (barring what they do with it if they decide to release it in TCG/OCG) :/ I mean it is probably too early to judge it now considering it is only in the anime... But, Konami... Seriously, give us more incentive to use these Type exclusives.Problem comes down to the generic Xyz being too good for what they do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
evilfusion Posted June 2, 2016 Report Share Posted June 2, 2016 Quick ruling question: Can I target a Barbaroid the Ultimate Battle Machine with this? If so can it attack directly regardless of its effect? You can target it with this, but it still won't be able to attack directly. That's because Barbaroid has an effect explicitly NOT allowing it to attack directly, even if otherwise capable of doing so, such as the opponent controlling no monsters. This card just allows you to have its target not require an empty field to attack directly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
♪ ♪Aria ♪ ♪ Posted June 3, 2016 Report Share Posted June 3, 2016 Use Limiter Removal to double the ATK, and use it on "Ancient Gear Ultimate Golem" or it's normal variant to deal huge amount of damage, but better have a quick negating card in your hand to make sure it succeeded.........or use it on "Machina Force"......... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trebuchet MS Posted June 3, 2016 Report Share Posted June 3, 2016 or use it on "Machina Force".........Implying your opponent even lets you assemble Machina Force. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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