Dokutah Posted December 13, 2020 Report Share Posted December 13, 2020 IT’S BACK! ERRATUM Firewall Dragon Link 4 LIGHT Cyberse Link Effect Monster ATK 2500 Materials: 2+ monstersYou can only use this card name’s (1) and (2) effects once per turn each. (1) Once while face-up on the field (Quick Effect): You can target monsters on the field and/or GY up to the number of monsters co-linked to this card; return them to the hand. (2) If a monster this card points to is destroyed by battle or sent to the GY: You can Special Summon 1 Cyberse monster from your hand. Changes are in bolded text. FORBIDDEN Grinder Golem LIMITED Red Reboot Nadir Servant Dinowrestler Pankratops Firewall Dragon SEMI LIMITED Dewloren, Tiger King of the Ice Barrier Wind-Up Magician Junk Speeder Magical Meltdown Cursed Eldland UNLIMITED Fossil Dig Tour Guide from the Underworld Dark Grepher JUSTIFICATIONS Grinder Golem was Forbidden due to its previous history with Akashic Magician and Firewall Dragon. With Firewall Dragon, it can be looped (albeit slower) to create intensely strong fields for little to no cost. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
~British Soul~ Posted December 13, 2020 Report Share Posted December 13, 2020 If the Firewall errata is posted in the TCG, is there a need to have it posted in this thread as well? Probs not imo. The justification for them banning Grinder Golem is laughable given TCG banned Grinder Golem ages ago. With the hit on Nadir Servant, I suppose it’ll likely be a matter of time before TCG follows suit, question mark? Pank’s hit makes sense as we have it @1 as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dokutah Posted December 13, 2020 Author Report Share Posted December 13, 2020 2 minutes ago, ~British Soul~ said: If the Firewall errata is posted in the TCG, is there a need to have it posted in this thread as well? Probs not imo. ah my bad, my earlier thoughts that the other thread meant to focus more on the firewall itself instead of here where we can focus more on the list @The Nyx Avatar maybe you could lock the other thread as you see fit? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
~British Soul~ Posted December 13, 2020 Report Share Posted December 13, 2020 I'd also like to point out that the article had been edited to include the other justifications: Pankratops was hit for too many high Level monsters being able to be summoned easily together, and Alpha is has more restrictions involved. Nadir Servant is a key card for the expansion and strategy of Dogmatika. Multiple copies makes Dogmatika extremely powerful, thus it’s been limited to bottleneck that power and utility. Too strong due to being able to activate from the hand. It heavily punishes “Eldlich” and other Decks that rely on a large number of Traps. Hope is with it being throttled, players will be more encouraged to play Trap Cards. Cursed Eldland allows “Eldlich” Decks to easily add cards every turn. It’s hoped by Semi-Limiting it, the Deck will be bottlenecked somewhat. Magical Meltdown synergizes with “Dogmatika” too much. You can easily add Aleister the Invoker. By Semi-Limiting it, it is hoped that the Deck will be bottlenecked somewhat in terms of power. It placing DARKs in the Graveyard is expected to not be too much trouble in the current metagame enviornment. It’s expected with the current metagame enviornment, she shouldn’t be a real issue. Anything else moved up is “It’s okay, right?” 19 minutes ago, Dokutah Jolly said: @The Nyx Avatar maybe you could lock the other thread as you see fit? OR you could do what the Org did and remove the errata from this thread (like they did from the banlist article and made a separate article on the errata) and keep the TCG thread. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Nyx Avatar Posted December 13, 2020 Report Share Posted December 13, 2020 8 minutes ago, ~British Soul~ said: I'd also like to point out that the article had been edited to include the other justifications: Pankratops was hit for too many high Level monsters being able to be summoned easily together, and Alpha is has more restrictions involved. Nadir Servant is a key card for the expansion and strategy of Dogmatika. Multiple copies makes Dogmatika extremely powerful, thus it’s been limited to bottleneck that power and utility. Too strong due to being able to activate from the hand. It heavily punishes “Eldlich” and other Decks that rely on a large number of Traps. Hope is with it being throttled, players will be more encouraged to play Trap Cards. Cursed Eldland allows “Eldlich” Decks to easily add cards every turn. It’s hoped by Semi-Limiting it, the Deck will be bottlenecked somewhat. Magical Meltdown synergizes with “Dogmatika” too much. You can easily add Aleister the Invoker. By Semi-Limiting it, it is hoped that the Deck will be bottlenecked somewhat in terms of power. It placing DARKs in the Graveyard is expected to not be too much trouble in the current metagame enviornment. It’s expected with the current metagame enviornment, she shouldn’t be a real issue. Anything else moved up is “It’s okay, right?” OR you could do what the Org did and remove the errata from this thread (like they did from the banlist article and made a separate article on the errata) and keep the TCG thread. I'll leave that up to @Dokutah Jolly. If he'd rather do that, then I'll happily unlock the other thread. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tinkerer Posted December 13, 2020 Report Share Posted December 13, 2020 Oh, so this is why the other thread was locked. I dunno, both threads have value. Having the errata in both isn't causing any harm (and without it here there isn't really context on why Firewall was unbanned). The other thread should be good for specifically talking about Firewall tho. On topic, OK list. It looks like minor tweaks rather than anything super big. The Nadir Servant limitation is likely to have more of an impact than Firewall coming back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
~British Soul~ Posted December 13, 2020 Report Share Posted December 13, 2020 17 minutes ago, The Nyx Avatar said: I'll leave that up to @Dokutah Jolly. If he'd rather do that, then I'll happily unlock the other thread. to be fair, HE @'d you and when I quoted that post, I was addressing him not you. Also I don't think the thread in TCG should've been locked as it has value, like this has value in terms of banlist. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
~British Soul~ Posted December 13, 2020 Report Share Posted December 13, 2020 6 minutes ago, Mr Melon said: Oh, so this is why the other thread was locked. I dunno, both threads have value. Having the errata in both isn't causing any harm (and without it here there isn't really context on why Firewall was unbanned). The other thread should be good for specifically talking about Firewall tho. I agree, the thread lock in TCG wasn't necessary (and this thread could have a link to the errata thread/article for context), and as for the errata being here, the OP cp'd the contents of the Org article before it was edited, hence my post including the the other justifications, and that article no longer has the errata embedded inside. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dokutah Posted December 13, 2020 Author Report Share Posted December 13, 2020 i think i wanna keep it locked as it is, people will discuss the in-game implication based on the erratum in here anyway sorry for the unnescessary ruckus Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
~British Soul~ Posted December 13, 2020 Report Share Posted December 13, 2020 Just now, Dokutah Jolly said: i think i wanna keep it locked as it is, people will discuss the in-game implication based on the erratum in here anyway In that case, I'll keep what I wanted to say about the alt art to myself then. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Best Male 2008 Posted December 13, 2020 Report Share Posted December 13, 2020 look how they massacred my boy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
~British Soul~ Posted December 13, 2020 Report Share Posted December 13, 2020 On the subject of Grepher, it'll be interesting to see the implications of the card @3 in the future when future DARK decks will end up existing, though we still have it @1 in the TCG, same with Armageddon Knight in both formats. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryusei the Morning Star Posted December 13, 2020 Report Share Posted December 13, 2020 2 hours ago, Krow said: look how they massacred my boy How, he's rightly type limited now. Will still be stupid good in Salamangreat Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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