Toffee. Posted February 10, 2013 Report Share Posted February 10, 2013 BLS@0 would make me a happy panda~EXCEPT...This is Konami were talking about :/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sora1499 Posted February 10, 2013 Report Share Posted February 10, 2013 [quote name="Blaster Black" post="6140757" timestamp="1360467595"]Also, Mermails will not be hit beyond a slap on the wrist. Somethign like Squall/Diva/Undine @2, if that. They have not yet finished their product cycle and are still a source of money for Konami.[/quote] Agreed. Especially because they'll be getting support in both of the next 2 packs. We might see a hit after LTGY comes out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EmpoleMew Posted February 10, 2013 Report Share Posted February 10, 2013 Edit: why is stone @2? At 3, it can be looped indefinitely. Same reason Night Assailant and Transmigration are at 1. Excavation at least has a cost that mitigates its recyclability which is why it's at 2 instead of 1. Also, Mermails will not be hit beyond a slap on the wrist. Somethign like Squall/Diva/Undine @2, if that. They have not yet finished their product cycle and are still a source of money for Konami. I'm not sure how much truth there is to it, but apparently Tewart has explicitly said exactly that. I'm pretty sure you meant Sphere instead of Squall though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blake Posted February 10, 2013 Report Share Posted February 10, 2013 At 3, it can be looped indefinitely. Same reason Night Assailant and Transmigration are at 1. Excavation at least has a cost that mitigates its recyclability which is why it's at 2 instead of 1. I'm not sure how much truth there is to it, but apparently Tewart has explicitly said exactly that. I'm pretty sure you meant Sphere instead of Squall though. Yeah, meant Sphere. Don't know how I said squall... But even if Tewart hadn't said it, they're still getting support, and their total TCG life is still short for all the support, so it's extremely unlikely they'd receive any harder hit than something trivial/not AS important to 2. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cute Rotten Yoshika Posted February 10, 2013 Report Share Posted February 10, 2013 Just thought I'd post my list. Banned - Monster Reborn - Stratos - Card Destruction - Gateway of the Six - BLS Limited - MST - Wind-Up Magician - Wind-Up Factory - Atlantean Dragoons - One Day of Peace - Fire Formation Tenki Semi-Limited - Reckless Greed - Lonefire Blossom - Blackwing Gale - Deep Sea Diva - Tsukuyomi Unlimited - Spore - Magical Stone Excavation lonefire is not going to 2 thats really stupid. its far too consistent at 2. and spore to 3? even if konami werent afraid of moving things more than one position up (and they are. look at tsukuyomi) spore at 3 is even stupider. you and i have already had a discussion on why mst is likely not going anywhere already and i dont feel like rehashing that. dragoons isnt going anywhere to promote mermails some more. one day of peace and card destruction are stupid cards but not very problematic. mind augus will hopefully be hit and aquamirror possibly along with it if konami is smart. tenki would be at 4 if konami could do it. all of their big upcoming imports use it so theyre gonna want to keep it as high up as they possibly can. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Agro Posted February 10, 2013 Report Share Posted February 10, 2013 Spore to 3 isn't stupid in any sense of the word and card destruction IS problematic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NeoRWBY65 Posted February 10, 2013 Report Share Posted February 10, 2013 I just have a quick question. Are Six Samurai at all in danger of having their cards hit? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sora1499 Posted February 10, 2013 Report Share Posted February 10, 2013 I just have a quick question. Are Six Samurai at all in danger of having their cards hit? The only thing I'd really hit from Sams is gateway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canadian Posted February 10, 2013 Author Report Share Posted February 10, 2013 Gateway is broken and should be banned. The only reason I think it might this time around is the fact that they will have their infinite loops complete via Hidden Arsenal 7. Thats a big no-no. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EmpoleMew Posted February 10, 2013 Report Share Posted February 10, 2013 I just have a quick question. Are Six Samurai at all in danger of having their cards hit? The only thing I'd really hit from Sams is gateway. I'd rather keep Gateway around because if it gets banned, Konami will have an excuse to bump Shi En up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bull3tM0nk3y Posted February 10, 2013 Report Share Posted February 10, 2013 I still think it is fine at 1. What do you guys think about Chaos Sorcerer? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sora1499 Posted February 10, 2013 Report Share Posted February 10, 2013 [quote name="Mønkey" post="6140792" timestamp="1360471703"]I still think it is fine at 1. What do you guys think about Chaos Sorcerer?[/quote] Perfectly fine at 2-3. I'd like to see it at the latter once BLS dies in a miserable hole. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bull3tM0nk3y Posted February 10, 2013 Report Share Posted February 10, 2013 So BLS gets banned and CS goes to 3? Chaos decks would be a thing to dread going against. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sora1499 Posted February 10, 2013 Report Share Posted February 10, 2013 [quote name="Mønkey" post="6140809" timestamp="1360472943"]So BLS gets banned and CS goes to 3? Chaos decks would be a thing to dread going against.[/quote] How so? CS isn't over-the-top broken in any way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Agro Posted February 10, 2013 Report Share Posted February 10, 2013 DAD BLS JD REDMD -All to 0-> Chaos Sorcerer to 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bull3tM0nk3y Posted February 10, 2013 Report Share Posted February 10, 2013 Is Judgement Dragon at 2 or 1? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blake Posted February 10, 2013 Report Share Posted February 10, 2013 Is Judgement Dragon at 2 or 1? 3, because Konami would rather have it than Lumina @3. Gateway needs to go because it's basically a win condition that rewards you way more than it should. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bull3tM0nk3y Posted February 10, 2013 Report Share Posted February 10, 2013 JD to 1. Not 0. I find it hard to summon him. >mfw I realize I'm not that good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Agro Posted February 10, 2013 Report Share Posted February 10, 2013 Unfortunately Konami never considers "switching" cards on the banlist. At least outside of Heavy & Trunade. So I doubt we ever see a change in Glads or LS like most think we probably should. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canadian Posted February 10, 2013 Author Report Share Posted February 10, 2013 DAD BLS JD REDMD -All to 0-> Chaos Sorcerer to 3 BLS and DAD are needing it the most. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canadian Posted February 11, 2013 Author Report Share Posted February 11, 2013 Hey I made a better, more plausible list. Banned - Card Destruction - Pot of Avarice - Ultimate Offering Limited - Evigishki Mind Augus - Wind-Up Magician - Wind-Up Factory - Genex Undine - One Day of Peace - Machina Gearframe / Geargiarmor Semi-Limited - Fire Formation Tenki - Dark World Snoww/Grapha - Reckless Greed - Deep Sea Diva Unlimited - Spore Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sora1499 Posted February 11, 2013 Report Share Posted February 11, 2013 Why would you hit undine over dragoons? If one of them deserves to go, it's definitely dragoons. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canadian Posted February 11, 2013 Author Report Share Posted February 11, 2013 It is a topic of major interest. If Undine is limited, the entire engine (which is broken btw) dies meaning the deck now as 5 new spots it needs to work with which could be filled with more Mermail Cards. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sora1499 Posted February 11, 2013 Report Share Posted February 11, 2013 It is a topic of major interest. If Undine is limited, the entire engir (which is broken btw) dies meaning the deck now as 5 new spots it needs to work with which could be filled with more Mermail Cards. Or they could hit dragoons, which would also destroy the engine in addition to putting a leash on their godly consistency. I wouldn't devote 5 spaces to an engine in which if I draw a single card, I lose. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cute Rotten Yoshika Posted February 11, 2013 Report Share Posted February 11, 2013 Hey I made a better, more plausible list. Banned - Card Destruction - Pot of Avarice - Ultimate Offering Limited - Evigishki Mind Augus - Wind-Up Magician - Wind-Up Factory - Genex Undine - One Day of Peace - Machina Gearframe / Geargiarmor Semi-Limited - Fire Formation Tenki - Dark World Snoww/Grapha - Reckless Greed - Deep Sea Diva Unlimited - Spore not really. one day of peace isnt a card that....does anything. its only problematic uses are in mind augus deckout (which hitting mind augus would stop) and in stall/burn/alt win which should themselves not be allowed and dont rely on one day of peace any more than other draw cards. tenki is absolutely not being hit. 3 (thats one, then another one, and then another other one) archetypes about to hit the tcg heavily use tenki. those are all big ca$h incentives to keep tenki at 3 and give those groups a chance to show off before they hit it. undine is stupid and not even necessary to merlanteans as a whole. its just an easy way to thin the deck and use an atlantean, which they can do in other ways. diva is also not a problem like what? what??? dragoons is the BEST hit to them as a whole but i dont think thats whats gonna happen. theres still a lot of water support coming out that they will benefit from so killing the deck beforehand is bad business. most likely is a weak hit to slow them down a bit but keep them competitive so they can sell packs still. probably linde and/or sphere to 2. as for machina, theyre not likely to recieve a huge hit since theyre doing well, but not too well. gigant is probably my best guess for them. snoww will be hit over grapha. consistency hits are preferred over boss hits. bosses only get hit when theyre either consistency providers themselves or just stupidly obnoxious and powerful. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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