[CORE] Igknight

[CLG Klavier]

For fuck's sake man.

Set 2 scales, POP THEM TO SEARCH.

Set another 2, SEARCH AGAIN.

.-.

[Premier Alexander Romanov]

You search them when you pop..?

But you just popped 2 to get 1.
How do you get the second?

For fuck's sake man.

Set 2 scales, POP THEM TO SEARCH.

Set another 2, SEARCH AGAIN.

.-.

YES.
YOU SEARCH ONE WITH TWO.
WHERE DOES THE SECOND SCALE IN THE SECOND PENDULUM PAIR COME FROM?!?

[Blake]

You have 3

Caliber
Riot
Musket

You pop Caliber and Riot and get Dragnov.

You set Dragnov and Musket and shit out Riot and Caliber from the ED.

You now have 4 instead of 3.

[Premier Alexander Romanov]

You have 3

Caliber
Riot
Musket

You pop Caliber and Riot and get Dragnov.

You set Dragnov and Musket and shit out Riot and Caliber from the ED.

You now have 4 instead of 3.

How did I have 3 when I had 2?!?

[Blake]

What the fuck are you on about

No one ever said start with 2, except me acknowledging that 2 alone would be a -1 but the MORE YOU ADD, the MORE YOU PLUS.

We are offering scenarios where you start with /3/ or more because those make +s and are completely realistic scenarios.

[Premier Alexander Romanov]

NVM. Broken explained it to me using the Scales, which made a lot more sense.
Sorry for the fuss.
I guess the archetype is OK.
Does it have any merit being integrated into Vanilla Pendulums?

[宇佐見 蓮子@C94]

BTW, each of the Igknights are named after guns.

Correction: ALL OF THEM BUT CALIBER

 

Magnum is named after .44 Magnum Pistol

Eagle is named after Desert Eagle

Dragnov after the sniper rifle Dragunov

Musket is a term used to certain kinds of old, pre-WW1 era guns. (They're what Musketeers are named after)

Riot refers to riot guns, which are a kind of non-lethal firearm used to suppress riots

Avenger is named after the GAU-8 Avenger, a minigun

 

Caliber, for some reason, is instead named after the diameter of a gun's barrel. Could've gone for Carbine which would work perfectly but nooooooo

 

/rantover

[Blake]

In other news, I'd like to make a special mention for Yuki Usagi in here.

It's a good card in its own right, but with the ability to drop her easily, you can go into Metaphys Horus and Nothung, CWSD/Yazi/BRMD/ASW (huge given its an OTK deck at a glance, though it does thin a lot), and 8s. Doesn't make Leo, but the 6s make up for that, overall.

These guys could also make an engine but idk how that'd work without testing.

Then there's pot of riches which is dumb as shit in here.

"I made Infinty/overfilled the ED? Who cares, I drew rich".

[The Warden]

Half of them are searchable by Odd-Eyes as well, which adds even more options on how to get the bastards into your hand. It would almost be a feasible idea to add Trump Witch just to fuse for First of the Dragons 3 turns in a row.

[Atypical-Abbie]

Half of them are searchable by Odd-Eyes as well, which adds even more options on how to get the bastards into your hand. It would almost be a feasible idea to add Trump Witch just to fuse for First of the Dragons 3 turns in a row.

Too bad you can only Pendulum Summon if you use Pot of Riches.

[Maeriberii Haan]

Does it have any merit being integrated into Vanilla Pendulums?

 

Nope. It's better if you run this as its own thing.

 

It's basically an explosive version of Vanilla Pendulums anyway

[Rodrigo]

This thread has igknighted fun this morning =D

 

OT: These cards could lit my passion for Yugioh again. They're so hot, my DN account is fired up to play with these cards.

[Maeriberii Haan]

Heart of the Underdog sounds cute in theory even if it's quite slow.

 

Might not worth it, but with you're more likely than not running all of the pendulums at 3 anyway, it sounds like hilarious.

[The Highlander]

If we make the assumption that drawing for the starting hand does not change the chances of drawing into one of the 24/40 cards and we calculate the amount of successes for 2 and below out of 5, then we get a chance of 31,7..., so roughly 32%, meaning the chance of drawing 3 or more in the starting hand is about 68% (which makes sense as the chance of a success is 60% and we are gambling for less than the to be expected amount of successes).

All in all I would not say that this is such an awful chance to grant the scales live, on top of that this archetype supports breaker the dark magical knight and knight of the red lotus, not to mention they can easily abuse echo oscillation, fusion suibstitute and tyrant's throes (not to mention heart of the underdog).

All in all an interesting archetype.

[CLG Klavier]

Honestly they feel kinda strong. They're basically a deck with incredible amounts of redunancy (not only all of their effects are the same, but there is also RotA, Summoner's Art, Odd-Eyes) so it surely will be consistent. And the more you have at once in hand, the more advantage you can get. Sounds snowbally as fuck.

[Atypical-Abbie]

Honestly they feel kinda strong. They're basically a deck with incredible amounts of redunancy (not only all of their effects are the same, but there is also RotA, Summoner's Art, Odd-Eyes) so it surely will be consistent. And the more you have at once in hand, the more advantage you can get. Sounds snowbally as fuck.

Snowbally? Never heard that one before?

[CLG Klavier]

Well yeah, but this is some next level of snowball. The more of them you get, the more of them you get.

[evil cucumber]

Omg cant wait for these guys. They look like the first Pendulum Archetype which will be entirely fun to play (never rly liked the normal supports nor performapals).

[Expelsword]

Woah woah woah, people. This thread got really mathy.

 

Let's run this back real fast. These guys are Normal Pendulum FIRE Warriors, right?

That means they can be searched out by

Reinforcement of the Army

Summoner's Art

Odd Eyes Pendulum Dragon

Bonfire

Themselves

 

Seems like we're on the cusp of Neo NEW Necloths here with all this searching (although they don't seem to be nearly as powerful)

 

Pot of Riches is absolutely going in this deck with the rate at which it fills up the Extra Deck, but I'm still skeptical that by themselves they will do all that much, since they do have a two for one thing going on, meaning you'll need to open with a lot of scales to get going.

 

Their boss looks relatively mediocre. Returning to the deck is great, but it only works on S/T, doesn't prevent chaining, can only be used once, he himself is too high level to pendulum out, and only has above average ATK. Going to need to see it in practice,  with more support along with brainstorming other stuff the deck can use, before we can really judge though.

[The Highlander]

Woah woah woah, people. This thread got really mathy.

 

Let's run this back real fast. These guys are Normal Pendulum FIRE Warriors, right?

That means they can be searched out by

Reinforcement of the Army

Summoner's Art

Odd Eyes Pendulum Dragon

Bonfire

Themselves

 

Seems like we're on the cusp of Neo NEW Necloths here with all this searching (although they don't seem to be nearly as powerful)

 

Pot of Riches is absolutely going in this deck with the rate at which it fills up the Extra Deck, but I'm still skeptical that by themselves they will do all that much, since they do have a two for one thing going on, meaning you'll need to open with a lot of scales to get going.

 

Their boss looks relatively mediocre. Returning to the deck is great, but it only works on S/T, doesn't prevent chaining, can only be used once, he himself is too high level to pendulum out, and only has above average ATK. Going to need to see it in practice,  with more support along with brainstorming other stuff the deck can use, before we can really judge though.

Let us look at pot of riches:

Step 1 use the effects of igknights (-1 hand advantage, +2 potential monster advantage (pendulum advantage))

Step 2 use pot of wealth (+2 and -1 hand advantage, resulting in a +1, -3 potential monster advantage (pendulum advantage))

Now let us sum up what all in all happened:

hand advantage: +1 and -1 resulting in a +-0

potential advantage +2 and -3 resulting in a -1

All in all one would lose potential advantage and keep the hand advantage, unless one would xyz, which cannot be done in the same turn in which pot of riches is used, so I guess unless one could go for an exciton knight it would be as good an idea as their current boss monster (their archetype boss monster).

I would seriously say playing pot of riches is a play once one has already played for a while, however it is not a play one should want to make, if we look at the synergy with 101 and castel we can see that it hardly matters:

Step 1 use an igknights effect 2 times (hand advantage -2, potential advantage +4)

Step 2 place the scales (-2 hand advantage +2 field advantage) then pendulum summon to turn the potential into real field advantage

Step 3 xyz 2 times (field advantage -2)

Step 4 use the xyzs effects (castel or 101) (-2 for the opponent so a +2 for the player)

Step 5 use pot of riches during the next turn (shuffle 3 back to get a +1 for your hand )

All in all you lost 3 cards from your hand, got 2 scales, 2 xyz effects and 2 already used xyzs on your field and needed 2 turns to make this play.

Hardly worth it considering they are great tribute material for obelisk, barbaros (who is a field nuke for the same price (and not even permanent price), ladd, tyrant's throes or one could simply use them for fusion substitute.

[Toffee.]

Boxers can appreciate more searches

Now watch, all of these have the same 'You cant Pendulum Summon non-"Igs"' effect.

[Delibirb]

Sounds like fast-accumulating Tributes for God Cards/Wicked Gods/Arcana Force EX/3 Tribute monsters to me. Could be a good Obelisk Turbo Engine.

Other than that, without Spell and Trap Support, they appear to be super consistent in a fairly mediocre play (being Avenger)

[Althemia]

Now watch, all of these have the same 'You cant Pendulum Summon non-"Igs"' effect.

The one they don't have! :D

[Blake]

Let us look at pot of riches:

Step 1 use the effects of igknights (-1 hand advantage, +2 potential monster advantage (pendulum advantage))

Step 2 use pot of wealth (+2 and -1 hand advantage, resulting in a +1, -3 potential monster advantage (pendulum advantage))

Now let us sum up what all in all happened:

hand advantage: +1 and -1 resulting in a +-0

potential advantage +2 and -3 resulting in a -1

All in all one would lose potential advantage and keep the hand advantage, unless one would xyz, which cannot be done in the same turn in which pot of riches is used, so I guess unless one could go for an exciton knight it would be as good an idea as their current boss monster (their archetype boss monster).

Are... are you joking?

 

You use Pot of Riches after you Xyz/when you're overstocked. When you have more than 5 things you can Pendulum Summon.

 

4 guys + Pot of Riches

-2 +1

-2 +1

set scales, +4

+2 total

 

Overlay 3 into Ptolemaios (-1)

USe her into Nova 

Overlay Nova into Infinity

 

Next turn, pot of Riches (+1)

 

You restored advantage, made a strong boss monster, and have advantage in the form of an extra dude and scales to boot.

[The Highlander]

Are... are you joking?

 

You use Pot of Riches after you Xyz/when you're overstocked. When you have more than 5 things you can Pendulum Summon.

 

4 guys + Pot of Riches

-2 +1

-2 +1

set scales, +4

+2 total

 

Overlay 3 into Ptolemaios (-1)

USe her into Nova 

Overlay Nova into Infinity

 

Next turn, pot of Riches (+1)

 

You restored advantage, made a strong boss monster, and have advantage in the form of an extra dude and scales to boot.

I am not saying they cannot make powerful xyz plays, I am only saying that a plus 1 does not seem all that impressive if it requires the player to already use his cards previously in a certain way and lose speed for a mere +1.

On a side note this would work better with dark factory of mass production and would get 2 certain cards instead of 2 random, has not limitations, does not slow the deck down and can be used twice aftergoing for a double xyz play.