Proto Posted June 4, 2015 Report Share Posted June 4, 2015 This was like my spirit card when I first started playing Yu-Gi-Oh "seriously" with a couple of my friends here. I later revisited the deck after the Dragon Rulers format by making a gimmick Rank 7 rush involving Redox and King of the Beasts. Now I'm wondering if there are any uses for it now. Discuss. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bringerofcake Posted June 4, 2015 Report Share Posted June 4, 2015 I still have a copy of that one deck that Armz made that spammed the crap out of this with Kinka-byo for an undying 2.5k beater Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryusei the Morning Star Posted June 4, 2015 Report Share Posted June 4, 2015 If they ever make number 100 pretty sure this, that and kinka make a soft lock Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blake Posted June 4, 2015 Report Share Posted June 4, 2015 Why am I not surprised that you chose Sora xD Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toffee. Posted June 4, 2015 Report Share Posted June 4, 2015 I still have a copy of that one deck that Armz made that spammed the crap out of this with Kinka-byo for an undying 2.5k beater Beast Striker is an E-Tele One for One is an E-Tele Giant Rat/Nimble Hamster/etc/etc can all search this Kinka can revive this Etc Moja has an absurd number of cards that can get it to the field, so all you need is King. Deck worked better with Redox cuz' you could make constant Rank 7s with it, as both King and Redox can come out of nowhere. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sleepy Posted June 5, 2015 Report Share Posted June 5, 2015 Redox banned, Green Baboon re-ruled, poor Moja. Though it actually has more support than before because it can be searched via Obedience Schooled and Kinka Byo has a RotA now (Where Art Thou?). Plus the Racoon support. I somewhat want to say that the deck is power-creeped, but that's not exactly right... The deck doesn't have it as easy to adapt against floodgates, which is one of the traits that top tier decks are distinguished for nowadays, as opposed to just the sheer power gap being bigger. I think Moja is otherwise pretty functional as a whole. It would be pretty sweet though if King of the Beasts didn't have the "you can only control 1 at a time" clause, but at the time of its creation it was perfectly understandable. What the deck probably needs the most is a chainable backrow card that doesn't go minus. Something that could be searched out, that way the Moja engine could also depend on the Green Baboon engine a little more consistently and go back to Rank 7 plays, because 2500 ATK beater as the bigger boss or waiting for that Key Mouse Normal Summon to make a Synchro isn't gonna cut it. As for the actual effect of this hypothetical support card, it'd have to be something similar to what Steeds is for Ritual Beasts or what Fire Lake is for BAs... maybe something that could hit face-up cards because it sounds like the deck suffers from anti-searchers, banishers, and floodgates, but wouldn't care about battle-responsive backrow as much. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(GigaDrillBreaker) Posted June 5, 2015 Report Share Posted June 5, 2015 Sleepy, there is always Super Rush Recklessly, but Green Baboon misses timing if the destruction is not chain link 1. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sleepy Posted June 5, 2015 Report Share Posted June 5, 2015 That's a bummer... So destruction would need to be the last thing a card like that does. I guess if Green Baboon was less restrictive, it'd be a few steps closer from being the Level 7 Beast version of Clown's Blade xD One more thing is, Konami had to ban the Dragon Rulers, but I wonder if they could afford to keep one of the four off the list at any given time, even rotating them with the lists.... Not sure how many things would break though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(GigaDrillBreaker) Posted June 5, 2015 Report Share Posted June 5, 2015 That's a bummer... So destruction would need to be the last thing a card like that does. I guess if Green Baboon was less restrictive, it'd be a few steps closer from being the Level 7 Beast version of Clown's Blade xD One more thing is, Konami had to ban the Dragon Rulers, but I wonder if they could afford to keep one of the four off the list at any given time, even rotating them with the lists.... Not sure how many things would break though. actually, on super rush, the two effects are simultaneous. If super rush is chain link 1, baboon triggers and it is awesome. Any other chain link and "when" effects, such as Baboon and Wisel, miss timing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Warden Posted June 5, 2015 Report Share Posted June 5, 2015 That's a bummer... So destruction would need to be the last thing a card like that does. I guess if Green Baboon was less restrictive, it'd be a few steps closer from being the Level 7 Beast version of Clown's Blade xD One more thing is, Konami had to ban the Dragon Rulers, but I wonder if they could afford to keep one of the four off the list at any given time, even rotating them with the lists.... Not sure how many things would break though. Well, I can safely say that Tidal should stay banned, as even @1 he can still work with Merlanteans. And with Neptabyss mincing about in the OCG (and sometime in the future the TCG), you probably don't want the two interacting considering Neptabyss single handedly revived Atlanteans after Tidal went buh bye. I can't really say the same for the other Rulers, but, if a Ruler should come off the list, and only one Ruler without a rotation, I'd like Redox. He tends to be the most fun. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VampireofDarkness Posted June 5, 2015 Report Share Posted June 5, 2015 One more thing is, Konami had to ban the Dragon Rulers, but I wonder if they could afford to keep one of the four off the list at any given time, even rotating them with the lists.... Not sure how many things would break though.Tidal - Nope Blaster - Infernoids can auto win by getting this, so probably not Tempest - I'm half and half on this one. I would say yes, but it still is really nuts Redox - Now this is where Deck meets Card. I find this card to be fine because of the cards it interacts with. It actually is enjoyable to work with this one and make plays and everything. I would say this one can for sure co exist on its own Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryusei the Morning Star Posted June 5, 2015 Report Share Posted June 5, 2015 All the rulers should come back to be honest. Red eyes isn't doing nearly enough to merit their banning. One at a time, tempest first Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Warden Posted June 5, 2015 Report Share Posted June 5, 2015 If it's one at a time, Redox should come back first. He has better interactions with his Attribute, as Scraps and Moja would love to have him back. Tempest after him if Redox isn't doing too much harm. Beyond that, no. There should only be 2 or less Rulers in the system at any time, and Redox should have a permanent slot @1, with the other (potential slot) going to Blaster or Tempest. Tidal should never come back, considering Neptabyss. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goodfusion Posted June 5, 2015 Report Share Posted June 5, 2015 If it wasn't for Neptabyss though, would Tidal be able to come back in your opinion? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Warden Posted June 6, 2015 Report Share Posted June 6, 2015 Hard ask really. Tidal would then pick up where it left off in Merlanteans. Abyssgaios for days yo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(GigaDrillBreaker) Posted June 6, 2015 Report Share Posted June 6, 2015 If it's one at a time, Redox should come back first. He has better interactions with his Attribute, as Scraps and Moja would love to have him back. Tempest after him if Redox isn't doing too much harm. Beyond that, no. There should only be 2 or less Rulers in the system at any time, and Redox should have a permanent slot @1, with the other (potential slot) going to Blaster or Tempest. Tidal should never come back, considering Neptabyss. First off, there is literally no reason for Konami to give any shits about Scraps or Moja, so they are not viable reasons to bring back redox. Second, Tempest actually does shit in the current metagame. Using tempest to banish toys from your grave in Ritual Beast was a big deal, and it helped to push for game as well. Third, using Neptabyss as some sort of argument against the unbanning of Tidal is silly, considering that he is actually an OCG exclusive. Yes, Neptabyss will eventually be printed in TCG, but do honestly think it will still be relevant? Just look at Nebra Disk. It made serious waves in OCG, but does nothing here and now. If only individuals were to come back, Blaster would be cool, simply for Infernoid love. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Warden Posted June 6, 2015 Report Share Posted June 6, 2015 I was merely speaking in regards to what Ruler should come off the list in the scenario that one Ruler DID come off the list. Redox does the least harm, so it would be the likeliest candidate compared to his brethren by power alone. I was merely mentioning what decks would be delighted to see him back. If and when a Ruler comes back and what Ruler it is would either be weakest off the group (which'll make less waves), or Konami is trying to push something (such as Blaster because Noids are quite common now). Naturally that's all just theoretical, and really it'd be easier to just leave well enough alone in regards to the Rulers. Also, Nebra Disk and Neptabyss are on two completely different planes of existence, as are Chronomalies and Atlanteans in general. Plus at the time Chronomalies were leagues better in OCG than when they emigrated into the TCG to realize they had no real power. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toffee. Posted June 6, 2015 Report Share Posted June 6, 2015 Beastmonsterguy EARTH/7/Beast/Effect You can discard This card: Mill a Beast-Type from your Deck. If you Special Summon a Level 5 or higher Beast-Type, you can Target that monster: Special Summon this card(from your hand or graveyard), then, the level of this card becomes the same as the target. You can only activate each effect of "Beastmonsterguy" once per turn. If this card is used as a Synchro/Xyz Material, all other monsters must be Beast-Type ATK 1500 / DEF 2800 ?????????? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(GigaDrillBreaker) Posted June 6, 2015 Report Share Posted June 6, 2015 Beastmonsterguy EARTH/7/Beast/Effect You can discard This card: Mill a Beast-Type from your Deck. If you Special Summon a Level 5 or higher Beast-Type, you can Target that monster: Special Summon this card(from your hand or graveyard), then, the level of this card becomes the same as the target. You can only activate each effect of "Beastmonsterguy" once per turn. If this card is used as a Synchro/Xyz Material, all other monsters must be Beast-Type ATK 1500 / DEF 2800 ?????????? Doesn't have 2600 ATK and 1800 DEF, 0/10. Seriously, though. Green Baboon, Yellow Baboon (eww), and Ancient Crimson Ape all share those stats. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toffee. Posted June 6, 2015 Report Share Posted June 6, 2015 Doesn't have 2600 ATK and 1800 DEF, 0/10. Seriously, though. Green Baboon, Yellow Baboon (eww), and Ancient Crimson Ape all share those stats. ....But it's clearly a different monster. It's just intended to be a supporter for said higher level Beast-Types. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mugendramon Posted June 7, 2015 Report Share Posted June 7, 2015 All the rulers should come back to be honest. Red eyes isn't doing nearly enough to merit their banning. One at a time, tempest first Isn't dark matter dragon the real problem with rulers? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryusei the Morning Star Posted June 7, 2015 Report Share Posted June 7, 2015 Isn't dark matter dragon the real problem with rulers? Nah its a glass cannon. You want to go for Flare Metal Dragon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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