(GigaDrillBreaker) Posted June 8, 2015 Report Share Posted June 8, 2015 I mean, the thing is that TEW isn't campaigning for mass errata. He is speculating on what potentially balanced errata may be, if it does end up happening. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryusei the Morning Star Posted June 8, 2015 Author Report Share Posted June 8, 2015 6 cards were errata'd, 2 of which would have had a realistic chance of coming back anyway and 2 of which were only banned because of unfair combinations in a small number of cases. It's not safe to assume that they're going to errata everything. Dark Strike Fighter Ring of Destruction Crush Card Virus Sinister Serpent Chaos Emperor Dragon Exchange of the Spirit Temple of the Kings Dark Magician of Chaos seems like more than six mate. Konami like it. It sells. People love it. You don't. Konami gives this many fucks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tinkerer Posted June 8, 2015 Report Share Posted June 8, 2015 Oh, come on TEW, I don't even think ihop was disputing you. No need to be super antagonistic. Personally, I don't care about erratas, but I wouldn't want to see PoG errata'd simply due to its iconic status. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vla1ne Posted June 9, 2015 Report Share Posted June 9, 2015 while i agree that there are quite a few cards that would profit from an errata, pot of greed isn't one of them. it's 3 words, "draw two cards" and that's it. similar to CED, changing the effect kills the legacy. that said, theorizing what a balanced pot of greed would look like is fun, so i see no reason to complain about it. and with that said, how this for a twist: If your opponents has 2 or more cards in their hand; Draw 2 cards. Your opponent can discard one card to negate this effect. Then again, it might be better as a new card than as a pot of greed errata... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Just Crouton Posted June 9, 2015 Report Share Posted June 9, 2015 You people are trying too hard. Pot of Greed Normal Spell Can only be activated at the start of Main Phase 1. 1) Draw 2. 2) Can't activate/Set any other Spells/Traps for the rest of the turn. Making Pot of Greed anything less than a +1 or that helps the opponent in some way contradicts the "Greed" part of the name. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toffee. Posted June 9, 2015 Report Share Posted June 9, 2015 Pot of Scrublords -Spell- Activate at the start of your Main Phase 1. Draw 2 cards. It becomes your End Phase. You cannot Activate/Summon/Set other cards during the turn you activated this card. You either... Use it turn 1 and hope you topdecked a bunch of Gorz/Trago/Fader/etc cards, which means your bad. Use it while you are in a winning position, to which, honestly won't anything for you, but you use it because your bad/don't want to win on the turn you could. ???????????? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DuelSpectre Posted June 9, 2015 Report Share Posted June 9, 2015 Pot of Greed -Spell- Draw 2 cards; you lose the duel. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goodfusion Posted June 9, 2015 Report Share Posted June 9, 2015 Pot of Greed -Spell- Draw 2 cards; you lose the duel. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryusei the Morning Star Posted June 9, 2015 Author Report Share Posted June 9, 2015 You people are trying too hard. Pot of Greed Normal Spell Can only be activated at the start of Main Phase 1. 1) Draw 2. 2) Can't activate/Set any other Spells/Traps for the rest of the turn. Making Pot of Greed anything less than a +1 or that helps the opponent in some way contradicts the "Greed" part of the name. This I really like. The greed is real. It's like Chaos Emperor's cock block clause Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ihop Posted June 9, 2015 Report Share Posted June 9, 2015 Crock of shit Normal Spell Draw 2 cards, then return all cards in your hand to the Deck. Think that balances out the drawing nicely. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goodfusion Posted June 9, 2015 Report Share Posted June 9, 2015 Crock of s*** Normal Spell Draw 2 cards, then return all cards in your hand to the Deck. Think that balances out the drawing nicely. Would still love to use that with Mystical Refpanel for fun. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tinkerer Posted June 9, 2015 Report Share Posted June 9, 2015 Pot of Greed Draw 2 cards. You can only use 1 "Pot of Greed" per match. Just because. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slinky Posted June 9, 2015 Report Share Posted June 9, 2015 Can we all just agree TEW is just a terrible player who loves to argue semantics and be done with it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ihop Posted June 9, 2015 Report Share Posted June 9, 2015 savage Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blake Posted June 9, 2015 Report Share Posted June 9, 2015 Can we all just agree TEW is just a terrible player who loves to argue semantics and be done with it? Would you care to provide some, I dunno, evidence? He's an OCG player, but he's not terrible. He get s a bit bright-eyed over cerain combos, but everyone is guilty of that at one time or another. He's one of the most productive players on the site, though he admittedly does phrase what he says a bit less than optimally, usually. I can legitimately say I was sad when he was banned before, because he was one of the few people I looked forward to getting opinions from, because he knows a lot about the game, even if he doesn't exactly let that on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toffee. Posted June 10, 2015 Report Share Posted June 10, 2015 Would you care to provide some, I dunno, evidence? He's an OCG player, but he's not terrible. He get s a bit bright-eyed over cerain combos, but everyone is guilty of that at one time or another. He's one of the most productive players on the site, though he admittedly does phrase what he says a bit less than optimally, usually. I can legitimately say I was sad when he was banned before, because he was one of the few people I looked forward to getting opinions from, because he knows a lot about the game, even if he doesn't exactly let that on.Hes a tsundere- *shot* Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlackBeartic Posted June 10, 2015 Report Share Posted June 10, 2015 Crock of s*** Normal Spell Draw 2 cards, then return all cards in your hand to the Deck. Think that balances out the drawing nicely. You must be joking.... Gonna assume you are and say LOL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
evilfusion Posted June 10, 2015 Report Share Posted June 10, 2015 Can we all just agree TEW is just a terrible player who loves to argue semantics and be done with it? No. Because that's not true. He's only truly knowledgeable involving the OCG, but most of us are TCG. He is choosing absolutely terrible examples of cards to errata, but that doesn't mean he's a semantic-arguing terrible player. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LordCowCowCowCowCowCowCowCow Posted June 10, 2015 Report Share Posted June 10, 2015 Okay yet another rare instance of me coming into one of these threads. Mostly cause wtf? People are now just making jokes and it's not spam? Okay then. Now for a noob idea of balanced. "Can only be played by sending three cards in your hand to the bottom of the deck; Draw two cards. You cannot play or set any card from your hand this turn." You'd be "greedy" cause you're risking cards you already have just to get some more and you pay the price by not being able to play anything after. ?????? If your only response to this post is to say how I know nothing so that you can increase your e-peen, don't bother. i already know I don't know anything about the game. Just offering an idea. ^^ Also seriously, do people not know how to just give opinions on ideas and not attack the person giving the idea anymore? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J-Max Posted June 10, 2015 Report Share Posted June 10, 2015 Okay yet another rare instance of me coming into one of these threads. Mostly cause wtf? People are now just making jokes and it's not spam? Okay then. Now for a noob idea of balanced. "Can only be played by sending three cards in your hand to the bottom of the deck; Draw two cards. You cannot play or set any card from your hand this turn." You'd be "greedy" cause you're risking cards you already have just to get some more and you pay the price by not being able to play anything after. ?????? If your only response to this post is to say how I know nothing so that you can increase your e-peen, don't bother. i already know I don't know anything about the game. Just offering an idea. ^^ Also seriously, do people not know how to just give opinions on ideas and not attack the person giving the idea anymore? Its a interesting idea but then you are -2ing yourself. The whole point of POG is the total +1 it gave you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Resident Fascist Posted June 10, 2015 Report Share Posted June 10, 2015 Okay yet another rare instance of me coming into one of these threads. Mostly cause wtf? People are now just making jokes and it's not spam? Okay then. Now for a noob idea of balanced. "Can only be played by sending three cards in your hand to the bottom of the deck; Draw two cards. You cannot play or set any card from your hand this turn." You'd be "greedy" cause you're risking cards you already have just to get some more and you pay the price by not being able to play anything after. ?????? If your only response to this post is to say how I know nothing so that you can increase your e-peen, don't bother. i already know I don't know anything about the game. Just offering an idea. ^^ Also seriously, do people not know how to just give opinions on ideas and not attack the person giving the idea anymore? The major problem with your errata is that it would only be useful in degenerate decks where discarding 3 cards automatically has some sort of benefit. In that type of deck it becomes much like Graceful Charity, just worse because you discard before you draw. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LordCowCowCowCowCowCowCowCow Posted June 10, 2015 Report Share Posted June 10, 2015 The major problem with your errata is that it would only be useful in degenerate decks where discarding 3 cards automatically has some sort of benefit. In that type of deck it becomes much like Graceful Charity, just worse because you discard before you draw. Well, that's why I said put on the bottom of the deck, and not discard. ^^ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Resident Fascist Posted June 10, 2015 Report Share Posted June 10, 2015 Well, that's why I said put on the bottom of the deck, and not discard. ^^ Oh I apologize, I misread. In that case, it becomes practically useless. Finding a middle ground between an unfairly good accelerator and a fair one is something we're not going to accomplish whilst draw 2 cards is written on it. I cannot really name any draw 2 card spells that can really be considered fair and good design because they tend to offer far too much acceleration for their own good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ihop Posted June 10, 2015 Report Share Posted June 10, 2015 I know it's specific, but Moray of Greed returns only 2 (specific) cards to draw 3, while not having any other restrictions, and Cardcar D draws 2 at a +1 while actually having less restrictions than that. It's a -2 with a massive condition, no deck would play it. Honestly, the best way to have draw 2 cards cards is a cost, but it's difficult to do anything like that with Pot of Greed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J-Max Posted June 10, 2015 Report Share Posted June 10, 2015 Most of the more reliable Draw 2 are Archetype or Attribute specific. Rare Value for example is a fantastic Draw card but will only work in its own Deck or DDT. This is why Avarice was axed. It could be sprinkled in pretty much any Deck for a +1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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