EHN. Posted September 17, 2014 Report Share Posted September 17, 2014 Yes that definitely is a thing. FNC HYPEEEE On a different subject, I've been noticing recently I seem to suck ass in lane and rarely win but when it gets to mid-late game most of the time I am mechanically better than the enemy team and can carry a lot of the time (in my elo that is). Probably because everyone in low elos plays so damn aggressive and love to all in whenever they can >.< Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brinolovania Posted September 17, 2014 Report Share Posted September 17, 2014 I've heard you still build Nashor's 'cause the attack speed and CDR are just so good that it doesn't matter about the passive. Oh, and nobody's mentioned that Worlds starts tomorrow. That's a thing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brinolovania Posted September 17, 2014 Report Share Posted September 17, 2014 C9! I BELIEVE!!! On that same different subject...I've noticed that I also suck in lane. Except I'm not that good at late game either. I need to, like, figure out hoe to not suck at this game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pyur Posted September 19, 2014 Report Share Posted September 19, 2014 Laning is all about managing trades and CSing at the same time, if you want to practice, Graves is good for bot, Orianna is good for mid, and there are a million and a half top laners that are good at both, namely Riven, Aatrox, Gnar, Nasus, Malphite, etc... Late game is about picking your moment, knowing who to focus, who not to focus, keeping EVERYTHING warded, what to prioritize, whether or not you should ball up, how you can engage/counter-engage, and how to itemize, to name a few things.... :3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EHN. Posted September 19, 2014 Report Share Posted September 19, 2014 That is all true but its hard as fk when you literally jungled for most of your league time (me) and get rekt by lane mains when you lane some games. I've been moving away from jungle recently though and I'm kinda getting the hang of this whole laning business. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brinolovania Posted September 20, 2014 Report Share Posted September 20, 2014 So I've been playing me some Zac, and I gotta say, he's a lot of fun. It feels like he does a lot more damage than people say, at least when you have items. Like in a game yesterday, with only a Sunfire, I beat a Triforce Irelia 1v1. Plus diving into their team and wreaking havoc is a good time, especially 'cause you don't actually die when you die. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Warden Posted September 20, 2014 Report Share Posted September 20, 2014 Honestly, I don't feel right in the jungle. I prefer being in lane where the action is, preferably mid. And Zac does tend to be a bit stronger than people think. Never underestimate him when he uses the stretch punch. I've seen a few Azir's so far in game, but he seems to only really do well if he's fed enough. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brinolovania Posted September 20, 2014 Report Share Posted September 20, 2014 I feel like Azir's gonna be really good once some people get really good at playing him and Rito fixes all his bugs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Warden Posted September 20, 2014 Report Share Posted September 20, 2014 Indeed. He's just rather quirky, and some people do seem to play him a little too aggressively. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pyur Posted September 20, 2014 Report Share Posted September 20, 2014 I've been playing Azir myself, with very little success.... So far, I think he's going to be really REALLY item dependent, especially chalice, it should always be your first item on him. Once you get some items though, you can do a lot of fancy things. On another note, I've been dying quite a bit from people just straight up walking through my ult, it's been a pretty disappointing trip, I must say. :p Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Warden Posted September 20, 2014 Report Share Posted September 20, 2014 I think I'll try Azir when he's free sometime. I have a build in mind for him, and I think it will be quite handy. Though I think with Azir it's key to know how, when and where you need to position your soldiers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pyur Posted September 20, 2014 Report Share Posted September 20, 2014 That's the key to him early on, along with mana management. Later on it's a matter of staying within your Q range of the enemy, otherwise you don't get anything accomplished, literally nothing. That's been my biggest problem, I don't remember to stutter step when my soldiers are eating people, and they inevitably get away from me later in the game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Warden Posted September 20, 2014 Report Share Posted September 20, 2014 Yeah, that is an issue with Azir unless you max CDR quickly. He's so reliant on the soldiers for damage and escape. So he tends to be pretty weak when it comes to chasing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pyur Posted September 20, 2014 Report Share Posted September 20, 2014 "So reliant" is an understatement. He literally can't do anything without his soldiers, and even just CSing with him without soldiers before level 6~ish is a nightmare itself. That being said, I think I'm going to start maxing Q first, and see how that goes, just so that I can reposition his soldiers more often, instead of being completely screwed after I Q. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Warden Posted September 20, 2014 Report Share Posted September 20, 2014 Well, Azir is more of a late game champ, as I've seen from my own games. Then again, he was only doing well because my teammates were retards and constantly went alone during the team-up phase. Honestly if the soldiers didn't require Azir to point at targets they'd be a lot more useful. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pyur Posted September 20, 2014 Report Share Posted September 20, 2014 His soldiers would easily be broken if they acted like Heimer turrets and did whatever they wanted to. Keeping one or two behind the enemy caster minions all the while you're safely farming while your soldiers are harassing/zoning the enemy laner without you having to do anything other than keep them there would break him. And yes, he is a late game champion, but that's because, like I said earlier, he's really item dependent. He needs his items to be able to do anything. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Warden Posted September 20, 2014 Report Share Posted September 20, 2014 Well, the vast majority of AP champions do really. I can't really think off the top of my head any AP champion that does well without them, except maybe Heimer, Ryze and Malzahar. I'm being generous with Ryze, cause he can do some decent nuking with his three piece combo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pyur Posted September 20, 2014 Report Share Posted September 20, 2014 Most AP champions can still do what they're designed to do with minimal items. From the start of the roster and excluding who you mentioned, Ahri, Akali, Annie, Brand, Diana, Elise, Fiddle, Eve, Fizz, Kat, Kennen, LB, Lux, Morgana, Ori, Rumble, Syndra, Veigar, Vel'Koz, Xerath, Ziggs and Zyra all do what they're designed to without relying very heavily on items at all. Don't get me wrong, items help them extremely, but they don't need them. Because of his extreme CDR dependence, specifically, he NEEDS to cap it to be useful at all, assuming he's not with at least two other teammates. I'm considering trying 25% CDR on my rune/mastery pages, then rushing Ionian boots. I think that might work as long as I play passively early. We'll see. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Warden Posted September 20, 2014 Report Share Posted September 20, 2014 Honestly that sounds like a complete waste. You don't have to play him passively, you just need to NOT play him aggressively. That's the problem I feel. He doesn't need to max ASAP, but if he does then I reckon he should go with Nashor's, just because it's such a jerk item that can go pretty well with Liandry since the soldier's attack is magic damage. Hell, it might even be worth just rushing Liandry's first just for the bonus damage it offers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EHN. Posted September 21, 2014 Report Share Posted September 21, 2014 One of my best friends got gifted championship thresh a couple weeks ago and was the happiest person ever, now he's pretty salty it's in the store. I'm pretty happy though, forgot to grab any SKT/TPA skins when they were available for all-stars. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brinolovania Posted September 21, 2014 Report Share Posted September 21, 2014 Hey Hey guys [spoiler= =D] [/spoiler] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Makο Posted September 21, 2014 Report Share Posted September 21, 2014 Nice. Now all you have to do is suffer all the way to plat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brinolovania Posted September 21, 2014 Report Share Posted September 21, 2014 Yaaaaaay. IDK if I'll do much more ranked this season. I'm just happy I'm getting victorious Morg and a cool border =D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EHN. Posted September 21, 2014 Report Share Posted September 21, 2014 Grats man, must feel great. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pyur Posted September 22, 2014 Report Share Posted September 22, 2014 That poor Ashe picked Ashe vs a Leona... GOOD JOB, BUDDY! Just make sure you don't let your LP decay like I did, and you'll be set. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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