Zeppeli Gyro Supreme Posted February 28, 2014 Author Report Share Posted February 28, 2014 What do you guys think about LaDD in the tournament? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-Noel- Posted February 28, 2014 Report Share Posted February 28, 2014 What do you guys think about LaDD in the tournament? it's a mediocore monster, many cards can make it useless (Treeborn, N49, GEPD, any cards that can freely start a chain without OPT limit) but I admit that I really surprise to see it in your Deck XD and I heard you will banned N62? I think limited is enough (only for OP tier, for other; burn it!!) since any damage it deal while not have GEPD as an oru is halved, so it somehow balanced its huge body imo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zeppeli Gyro Supreme Posted February 28, 2014 Author Report Share Posted February 28, 2014 The problem isn't as much to deal with the damage it deals, but the fact that it can simply outrun anything, making most boss monsters obsolete in front of it. Nobody except Kaito is going to use more than 1 of it, anyways, and in Kaito's case... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-Noel- Posted February 28, 2014 Report Share Posted February 28, 2014 it's fine then, so do I need to adjust my deck to get rid of it right now or I can use it until the end of this tournament? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zeppeli Gyro Supreme Posted February 28, 2014 Author Report Share Posted February 28, 2014 it's fine then, so do I need to adjust my deck to get rid of it right now or I can use it until the end of this tournament? No, any changes I make won't affect the current tournament. I'm not even 100% sure on any decisions at the moment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loyalist Posted February 28, 2014 Report Share Posted February 28, 2014 Not a balance problem really but I feel kinda silly being against opponents with full 15 card extra decks with only 5 cards since my character doesn't have any extra deck cards. What is a balance problem is how inconsistent (even with 3 upstarts) my deck is. I think I ought to remake the deck (not for the tournament but for future character duels) without the spellbook engine and try dualities + backrow. Might even try Future Visions since it sets of LIGHT and gets me targets (albeit in an ineffective manner being +0 whilst taking up my normal summon) targets for Fortune's Future. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zeppeli Gyro Supreme Posted February 28, 2014 Author Report Share Posted February 28, 2014 I was going to be changing the rule for extra decks around to make it more fitting for the needs of characters, though I can't be too liberal with what characters get. In my case, I had a 15 card extra deck but only a few of the cards were actually playable. Most of the rest of it was filler like VWXYZ fusions. As far as Carly goes, I am debating making Fortune's Future a character card. The problem is, it opens up opportunity to just make a spellbook deck with fortune ladies as draw. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loyalist Posted February 28, 2014 Report Share Posted February 28, 2014 Well I hardly have the swarming capacity to make xyzs/synchros anyway so boosting my E/D won't actually be useful or harmful. It would just be rather pointless. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeathSDelano Posted March 1, 2014 Report Share Posted March 1, 2014 anyone available for deck testing on DN[excluding decklists for current character tournament] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zeppeli Gyro Supreme Posted March 1, 2014 Author Report Share Posted March 1, 2014 Updated! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Delibirb Posted March 1, 2014 Report Share Posted March 1, 2014 I assume I cannot alter my deck to make room for a second power bond as per new rules, despite not having participated in a duel yet? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zeppeli Gyro Supreme Posted March 1, 2014 Author Report Share Posted March 1, 2014 I assume I cannot alter my deck to make room for a second power bond as per new rules, despite not having participated in a duel yet? None of the changes made here are applied to the current tournament, only to future tournaments. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slinky Posted March 1, 2014 Report Share Posted March 1, 2014 Number 101 should be shot. But allow its use for Nasch (for obvious reasons) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zeppeli Gyro Supreme Posted March 2, 2014 Author Report Share Posted March 2, 2014 Could some people look through and give me their thoughts on changes for characters in both tiers, please? Maybe stuff like limits that should be added, cards that could be problematic, or limits that should be lifted? Also, are there any new characters who can be added? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeathSDelano Posted March 2, 2014 Report Share Posted March 2, 2014 for 1 I am surpised you don't have the only 3 ED not theirs restriction on Yuma, Shark, Tron, Crow, IV and a few others who already have a large ED pool, and easy ways to pull them out for OP tier. as for limits and stuff hard to say without testing with the cards that could be problematic[which would require more testing to figure out what those cards could be]. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zeppeli Gyro Supreme Posted March 2, 2014 Author Report Share Posted March 2, 2014 The main thing is consistency of the decks. IV isn't as much of a problem because he has a lot of dead draw cards, and it's harder for him to pull out his ED monsters. A problem I'm also running into is characters who don't even need other ED cards, like Yuma and Shark. They can run on their own pretty much, so it didn't cross my mind to even make the restriction for them. I'll be updating, though. Also, the following characters are up for consideration after reading through character lists for ZeXal: Thunder Spark (But has no traps) Dumon (But has no traps, very weak spell lineup) Mizar Fuya (No traps, unimpressive spell and monster line) Jinlong (Would have to run very bad cards) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zeppeli Gyro Supreme Posted March 3, 2014 Author Report Share Posted March 3, 2014 Also, I'm considering limiting Number 64: Ronin Raccoon Sandayu, considering he is essentially a 0-for-1, and creates a lock with copies of himself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-Noel- Posted March 4, 2014 Report Share Posted March 4, 2014 I have no doubt now, banned 62 immediately, also Koko just lose to me bcoz of Honest and she thinks it's unfair, my suggestion is banned it except for Jaden, what do you think? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Love of Ghibli Posted March 4, 2014 Report Share Posted March 4, 2014 Its hard for me to see Sandayuu being banned. Seeing as almost all the 10X Barian cards were pretty much anti-utopia meaning that there were made to stop all of that not by battle effects. As for prime Galaxy...I can see how over zealous beat sticks would be a problem. I have no problem seeing it leave. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zeppeli Gyro Supreme Posted March 4, 2014 Author Report Share Posted March 4, 2014 Its hard for me to see Sandayuu being banned. Seeing as almost all the 10X Barian cards were pretty much anti-utopia meaning that there were made to stop all of that not by battle effects. As for prime Galaxy...I can see how over zealous beat sticks would be a problem. I have no problem seeing it leave. Raccoon wouldn't be banned, just Limited so that it won't interact with itself, or create 2 copies every turn of monsters. I guess since nobody too strong can use it right now, it's not that big of a deal. I'll bring it up again if it ever becomes a problem. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zeppeli Gyro Supreme Posted March 4, 2014 Author Report Share Posted March 4, 2014 So, I officially banned the two Numbers, as they met my requirement of 5 votes. Once the tournament is over, there will be another poll for additional changes. Some things that are currently on the table for discussion in OP Character Tournament: - Raising the limit from 18 to 21 on some characters. - Honest's position in the tournament - Jaden's fusion's positions on the list. Without Stratos, can it be bumped? - If Shark should get the Armored XYZs or not - If Kiryu should take a hit, considering his deck would be just slightly different from what it would be in real life. - If Alito should take a hit - The positions of the new characters Thunder Spark (But has no traps) Dumon (But has no traps, very weak spell lineup) Mizar Fuya (No traps, unimpressive spell and monster line) Jinlong (Would have to run very bad cards) - Meliae of the Trees or Lonefire Blossom's positions. If they both remain as-is, Akiza becomes OP tier. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-Noel- Posted March 5, 2014 Report Share Posted March 5, 2014 So, I officially banned the two Numbers, as they met my requirement of 5 votes. Once the tournament is over, there will be another poll for additional changes. Some things that are currently on the table for discussion in OP Character Tournament: - Raising the limit from 18 to 21 on some characters. - Honest's position in the tournament - Jaden's fusion's positions on the list. Without Stratos, can it be bumped? - If Shark should get the Armored XYZs or not - If Kiryu should take a hit, considering his deck would be just slightly different from what it would be in real life. - If Alito should take a hit - The positions of the new characters Thunder Spark (But has no traps) Dumon (But has no traps, very weak spell lineup) Mizar Fuya (No traps, unimpressive spell and monster line) Jinlong (Would have to run very bad cards) for 101, what's about limited it and make it require 2 Level 4 WATER monsters to Xyz Summon? Shark really need it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Love of Ghibli Posted March 5, 2014 Report Share Posted March 5, 2014 Well that was a rousing good time and lots of fun. Here was Alit...The side deck did most of the work. Things to note: Ordeal of the Traveler is my favorite trap card...So I try to squeeze it in when I can it won me a game lol Bandage: Did not know this deck had an answer to LADD until this guy showed up...thank Bandage Bailout: just save my life from the thrash...a lot. Ninja was soo not needed. Definitely could have used 101 instead. Probably would have saved me from that GEPD thrashing I got last round Fun Things I did in the tournament: Made C80 Equipped 80 to C105 Pulled off the requirements for The Seventh One Summoned Cheat Commissioner This was fun. I think I'm going to find another fun character to do for the next one lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-Noel- Posted March 5, 2014 Report Share Posted March 5, 2014 I hope we'll have non-OP character deck soon :lol: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zeppeli Gyro Supreme Posted March 5, 2014 Author Report Share Posted March 5, 2014 for 101, what's about limited it and make it require 2 Level 4 WATER monsters to Xyz Summon? Shark really need it. He really doesn't need it. He has been doing fine in the tournament since before the card existed. Besides, I don't want to meddle with actual card rules. Also, this was the deck I used. A lot of changes I would make to it if I were to use it again. I used Eliminating the League just to be fitting for Ojamas. I don't really make extensive side decks for this since I could have an advantage having looked at user's decks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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