Monarch King Posted June 9, 2015 Report Share Posted June 9, 2015 New Forbidden: Djinn, Releaser of Rituals* (*= with the Nekroz hits, this may not be necessary) New Limited: El Shaddoll Construct (Foolish+Catastor in 1 card, Battle Phase->attack, then El Shaddoll to bring 2nd Construct. This has to be stopped). Graff, Malebranche of the Burning Abyss (even at 1, the 2 Dante first turn can be achieved and ofc Dante and Cir are here to recycle the 1 Graff) Nekroz of Unicore (slow down the recycle power and the salt against Extra Deck) Nekroz Cycle (bring Trishula or any other from Grave seems unhealthy) Fire Lake of the Burning Abyss (how you call a card that gives you plus from +2 up to +4? Overpowered) Star Seraph Sovereign (the combo of infinite plus has to end) Stellarnova Alpha (Tellars run so many traps so this will be a scratch for them) New Semi Limited: Dragon Ravine (may i should unlimit this but i am afraid of the new Red-Eyes support) El Shaddoll Fusion (you may want to see this Limited.) Lose 1 Turn (because Qli run 3 of them. I think Qli Core does not need another hit. Some people claim that Scout should go to Limited but i think that would kill Qli) Satellarknight Altair (and now Tellars will run, except of 3 Call, 3 Oasis xD) No Longer on List: Chaos Sorcerer Tragoedia Sinister Serpent Exchange of the Spirit Temple of the Kings I don't know if Stratos or Cyber Stein at 1 is a danger for the meta. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goodfusion Posted June 9, 2015 Report Share Posted June 9, 2015 How about Advanced Ritual Art for unlimited? I don't see any reason why it should remain semi-limited, and with Preparation of Rites to 1 in the last banlist, the decks that could use it are simply even more inconsistent. Also you cannot use the Djinns with it which are amazing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monarch King Posted June 9, 2015 Author Report Share Posted June 9, 2015 How about Advanced Ritual Art for unlimited? I don't see any reason why it should remain semi-limited, and with Preparation of Rites to 1 in the last banlist, the decks that could use it are simply even more inconsistent. Also you cannot use the Djinns with it which are amazing. Basically my purpose was to dwell on what cards should be forbidden, limited or semi-limited. About the Cards that i unlimited, i put them randomly. I think there are so many cards that should be unlimited in the next banlist and Advanced Ritual Art possibly is one of them :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spinny Posted June 9, 2015 Report Share Posted June 9, 2015 Lavalval chain is the problem, not Djinn. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tinkerer Posted June 9, 2015 Report Share Posted June 9, 2015 Maybe bump up Wall of Revealing Light? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toffee. Posted June 9, 2015 Report Share Posted June 9, 2015 Lavalval chain is the problem, not Djinn. Both are pretty absurd, if you think about it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spinny Posted June 9, 2015 Report Share Posted June 9, 2015 Both are pretty absurd, if you think about it. In the context of metagame nekroz tho. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryusei the Morning Star Posted June 9, 2015 Report Share Posted June 9, 2015 Cards that I feel TCG needs to get back from OCG side 1) Not Stratos 2) Super Rejuv its perfectly fair at 1 and a nice boost to red eyes 3) Super Poly- Noden sales, don't lynch this card for Shaddolls 4) Maybe Trishula if the Blue one hasn't driven your NaCl levels up Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(GigaDrillBreaker) Posted June 9, 2015 Report Share Posted June 9, 2015 In my opinion, the greatest reasoning for a Unicore hit is its synergy with Kaleidoscope and Arc Light, rather than its own effects. The fact that it it a big part of the djinn lock is due to this synergy, and with only one Brio activation per turn, decreasing the probability of opening correctly for a rank four into djinn lock is a wise move. And Spinda, considering that Chain really is not the only way to get Djinn in grave (armaknight immediately comes to mind) saying that Djinn is not a problem is silly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
~~~~ Posted June 10, 2015 Report Share Posted June 10, 2015 These are only my thoughts. Please excuse me if I am being stupid. Why should Premature Burial be forbidden while the similar Call of the Haunted is unlimited? Is there some way to return it to the hand immediately and use it again? And how about Jiaotu taking a hit? It is a really powerful search imo. Instant Synch that is really difficult to remove. I agree that Releaser is powerful, but maybe only limit it if some specific hits on Nekroz can be done, because other Rituals need it. Also, what about Beelze? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(GigaDrillBreaker) Posted June 10, 2015 Report Share Posted June 10, 2015 These are only my thoughts. Please excuse me if I am being stupid. Why should Premature Burial be forbidden while the similar Call of the Haunted is unlimited? Is there some way to return it to the hand immediately and use it again? This is a searchable monster reborn. Arguably the single best Reborn variant in existence. And how about Jiaotu taking a hit? It is a really powerful search imo. Instant Synch that is really difficult to remove. Yang Zing are weak, no need to hurt them I agree that Releaser is powerful, but maybe only limit it if some specific hits on Nekroz can be done, because other Rituals need it. Other rituals really shouldn't be considered for a competitively-based banlist Also, what about Beelze? Considering Castel is a staple, Beelze is a threat to nobody at 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
宇佐見 蓮子@C94 Posted June 10, 2015 Report Share Posted June 10, 2015 I'd like to see Instant Fusion going to 1 before Mega Tins arrive. Unless there is another banlist between now and then. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VampireofDarkness Posted June 10, 2015 Report Share Posted June 10, 2015 Sovereignty to 1 for me is the only thing I think I would want since I think CORE arrives during next list. Djinn can be banned as well, but Seraphs should go before the Clowns arrive as number 1, then ban Releaser and MAYBE hit Trish in some way. I can't think of too much I can complain about enough to beg for a hit after that really Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blake Posted June 10, 2015 Report Share Posted June 10, 2015 Sovereignty to 1 for me is the only thing I think I would want since I think CORE arrives during next list. Djinn can be banned as well, but Seraphs should go before the Clowns arrive as number 1, then ban Releaser and MAYBE hit Trish in some way. I can't think of too much I can complain about enough to beg for a hit after that really Hitting chair isn't the right decision. It's strong, but it makes a lot of sense in theme. But it's awful outside of Pure Seraphs, without stick. Stick's the one that should be hit, unlike the OCG. OCG applied bubbleman logic, as that suits their game more, but Stick's "generically" good. Chair is not. THE wombo combo can't occur with limited chair, but Stick's still a broken piece of shit. Not saying it shou;d/will/etc. be hit, just saying don't blame chair. Chair is honestly really shitty, jsut attached to something broken. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VampireofDarkness Posted June 10, 2015 Report Share Posted June 10, 2015 Hitting chair isn't the right decision. It's strong, but it makes a lot of sense in theme. But it's awful outside of Pure Seraphs, without stick. Stick's the one that should be hit, unlike the OCG. OCG applied bubbleman logic, as that suits their game more, but Stick's "generically" good. Chair is not. THE wombo combo can't occur with limited chair, but Stick's still a broken piece of s***. Not saying it shou;d/will/etc. be hit, just saying don't blame chair. Chair is honestly really shitty, jsut attached to something broken. Oh no, I do aware how stupid Stick is, I just mean hit the Seraph combo in general. Seraph Clowns need to not be a thing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Resident Fascist Posted June 10, 2015 Report Share Posted June 10, 2015 Oh no, I do aware how stupid Stick is, I just mean hit the Seraph combo in general. Seraph Clowns need to not be a thing Well considering this is a TCG list and the deck isn't a thing in the TCG yet because we don't even have Perfomages yet, that's extremely unlikely to happen. Konami has pre-emptively hit decks before, it doesn't happen very often though. The last example I can name was 3 Axis. As for this list, it'll likely be a much larger list than the ones we've been having previously due to the fact Konami wants more of the upcoming product in new sets to be played more than what we've had for a while. I doubt they'd hit Burning Abyss that hard, I haven't really seen them since the Tour Guide hit, they kind of fell off in comparison to the good decks recently. I'm just going to ignore the fact someone said to hit Jiatou because that really strikes a nerve with me, considering the deck hasn't done shit and people are already at it's neck. Nekroz are obviously going to get more hits, assumingly Shaddoll will get a few hits due to Nekrozdolls being a thing, and also the fact Konami probably believes they've ran their course. Light Satellarknight hit maybe. If there's any cards I want banned, it'd be Denko Sekka but that's more likely to get limited first. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(GigaDrillBreaker) Posted June 10, 2015 Report Share Posted June 10, 2015 The last example I can name was 3 Axis. Dark Matter Rulers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryusei the Morning Star Posted June 17, 2015 Report Share Posted June 17, 2015 I have a suspicion that either there won't be a July list or that it's gonna be a mass copy of the OCG list Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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