Ryusei the Morning Star Posted November 14, 2015 Report Share Posted November 14, 2015 Pay 2000 Life Points. Both players Special Summon as many of their removed from play monsters as possible I was thinking maybe the soul charge clause? Pay 2000 Life Points. Both players Special Summon as many of their removed from play monsters as possible. You cannot conduct your Battle Phase the turn you activate this card. You can only activate 1 "Dimension Fusion" per turn. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GarlandChaos Posted November 14, 2015 Report Share Posted November 14, 2015 I...can actually see this happening, sort of. At 1, mind you, but I can see it nonetheless. ...trying to think of what decks could use this, though. Hm. Chaos Dragons, most likely, but iirc, those fell into obscurity. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SirReal Posted November 14, 2015 Report Share Posted November 14, 2015 If Kozmo wasn't a thing right now, I'd agree, but I'm sure that summoning a bunch of 3000 or 2800 floaters is a pretty big no. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryusei the Morning Star Posted November 14, 2015 Author Report Share Posted November 14, 2015 If Kozmo wasn't a thing right now, I'd agree, but I'm sure that summoning a bunch of 3000 or 2800 floaters is a pretty big no.I mean you're not gonna be able to attack which pretty much is where Kozmo shine. Awful in the mirror etc. Also assume OCG does this for the January list, TCG will only get it around August, Kozmo will be hit by then Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(GigaDrillBreaker) Posted November 14, 2015 Report Share Posted November 14, 2015 Can't this card just stay dead? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aman Indra Posted November 14, 2015 Report Share Posted November 14, 2015 Can't this card just stay dead?Expecting someone to contradict you or are you expecting a strong "No" ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(GigaDrillBreaker) Posted November 14, 2015 Report Share Posted November 14, 2015 Moreso hoping for an explanation of why cards can't stay banned. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aman Indra Posted November 14, 2015 Report Share Posted November 14, 2015 Moreso hoping for an explanation of why cards can't stay banned.Cards get banned when they are abused, looped, broken, power creep, become unhealthy for the current game state or become annoying as funk techs, when any 1 or 2 of those factors subside, they come back and should come out of the ban list jail. With or without errata is another topic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryusei the Morning Star Posted November 14, 2015 Author Report Share Posted November 14, 2015 Maybe cause the unbans are the most exciting part about the Banlist? Maybe cause you can fix a good portion of them with minor edits Maybe cause a good portion more have no reason to be on the list Maybe cause nostalgia? What does banned Dimension Fusion do? Cause unbanned atleast it can help the odd deck or so Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Azure Wolf Posted November 14, 2015 Report Share Posted November 14, 2015 I would see this seeing play in Cybers as a 1 of. It would by pass some of the conditions of Network allowing you to use effects and keep your Backrow safe. Aside from Cybers not sure where else it could see play. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aman Indra Posted November 14, 2015 Report Share Posted November 14, 2015 I would see this seeing play in Cybers as a 1 of. It would by pass some of the conditions of Network allowing you to use effects and keep your Backrow safe. Aside from Cybers not sure where else it could see play.Just drop this spell after you mass banish with Cyber Eltanin and laugh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SirReal Posted November 14, 2015 Report Share Posted November 14, 2015 Sure it can help the odd deck, but it can also accelerate an already tier 1 deck to insane levels. That's the thing you need to be worried and weary about when it comes to unbans and/or erratas. Right now, there's a pretty big banish heavy deck that's tier 1 in the meta over here in the TCG, making this errata potentially a big mistake if the card comes up the list. In the OCG as it stands right now, there isn't a banish heavy deck besides RB which already has its own searchable version of this card, so an errata like that should be safe. One issue with introducing power cards like this back into the game is that it limits the design of future cards. If a deck banishes a lot as costs in the future, this card could become a win button unless you put in a ton of restrictions that turn the new cards into walls of text. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryusei the Morning Star Posted November 14, 2015 Author Report Share Posted November 14, 2015 Except based on DMOC it's not like TCG will get this card errata of not any time soon? Also isn't soul charge the same? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Warden Posted November 14, 2015 Report Share Posted November 14, 2015 Soul Charge doesn't let you SS up to 5 monsters for 2k LP. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryusei the Morning Star Posted November 14, 2015 Author Report Share Posted November 14, 2015 Soul Charge doesn't let you SS up to 5 monsters for 2k LP.Soul Charge can fit in a lot more decks, doesn't benefit the opponent, etc Maybe a you can't ss after activating this card clause. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maeriberii Haan Posted November 14, 2015 Report Share Posted November 14, 2015 Now watch as this card will be unbanned when Yuya and co. is in Academia... ...so Leo Akaba has an excuse of maining 3 in his deck. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryusei the Morning Star Posted November 14, 2015 Author Report Share Posted November 14, 2015 Now watch as this card will be unbanned when Yuya and co. is in Academia... ...so Leo Akaba has an excuse of maining 3 in his deck.but..but...DMoC is at three in OCG...and soon to be at 1 in TCG...they can't! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maeriberii Haan Posted November 14, 2015 Report Share Posted November 14, 2015 but..but...DMoC is at three in OCG...and soon to be at 1 in TCG...they can't! FUSE ALL THE DIMENSIONS Just because. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryusei the Morning Star Posted November 14, 2015 Author Report Share Posted November 14, 2015 FUSE ALL THE DIMENSIONS Just because.Do we get to return from said different dimension too? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toffee. Posted November 14, 2015 Report Share Posted November 14, 2015 Soul Charge doesn't benefit the opponent- ....People play Dimension Fusion when your opponent has Banished monsters? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryusei the Morning Star Posted November 14, 2015 Author Report Share Posted November 14, 2015 ....People play Dimension Fusion when your opponent has Banished monsters?Kozmo mirror match? Pepe banish their juggler. Chaos Cards? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toffee. Posted November 14, 2015 Report Share Posted November 14, 2015 Kozmo mirror match? Pepe banish their juggler. Chaos Cards?Pretty sure if this were a Kozmo mirror, you wouldn't play This card. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sleepy Posted November 14, 2015 Report Share Posted November 14, 2015 Pretty sure if this were a Kozmo mirror, you wouldn't play This card. Unless you had a Cyber Dragon and a Raigeki in hand at the very least xD Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VCR_CAT Posted November 14, 2015 Report Share Posted November 14, 2015 On the topic of Soul Charge; Soul Charge is still seeing hits on the banlist despite not fitting in a lot of decks. And I agree with Giga. This isn't casual, this is for tournament/advanced play. Cards can stay banned, and there's no consequence. This card needs to stay banned because it's a really unfair one-card mass summon that really closes the duel in right then and there, and the fact that it's banish and not grave means that more often than not it's a one-sided benefit. I'm chalking this up there with Future Fusion as just a really bad concept you can't balance and make fair for advanced play without outright neutering the card. I said it in the Future Fusion thread, and I'll say it again: Cards can stay banned. Cards being banned is not a bad thing. Cards don't need to be errata'd and brought back. Nostalgia is an awful reason for competitive play. If you really want nostalgia/fun times, play this casually where you can use whatever card you want. Competitive banlists don't need to cater to casual play and definitely should not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Azure Wolf Posted November 14, 2015 Report Share Posted November 14, 2015 Just drop this spell after you mass banish with Cyber Eltanin and laugh.Cyber Eltanin isn't needed at all. Cybers can get decent enough power out and would prefer to have Cybers in the grave rather than banished. Unless Cybers get a easier way to recycle banished monster without relying on Network Eltanin is just a winmoar card. Rampage and Twin give you plenty of attack power and Cyber End can deal with Defence positions if necessary. Add in Nova and Infinity and you already have enough bosses to work with, no need to run Eltanin over Valley (for draw power or a safety net) or more Spell or Traps. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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