Not-so-Radiant Arin Posted October 26, 2012 Report Share Posted October 26, 2012 [quote name='Chance Furlong' timestamp='1351261531' post='6054220'] Chaos Dragons have Pulsar and revolve around that to stay afloat. It's all the really need and they have enough Spell/Trap hate with 2 MSTs, 2 Dust Tornadoes, and 2 Night Beams to get by. @DA - That could be true [/quote] I meant Dragunitys. O.o Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Strider Tigerwolf Posted October 26, 2012 Author Report Share Posted October 26, 2012 All dragunities have to do is focus more on control plays, especially given their access to Icarus Attack and the simple Legionnaire/Aklys combo. They don't go as Synchro centric as they used to, but they still have very viable plays, such as the loop with LaDD and Leyvaten and that's where their strength relies on in my format, which is quite enough for them to get around O-o. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sleepy Posted October 26, 2012 Report Share Posted October 26, 2012 Oh damn xD I it would have been very funny to see my Dark Scorpions somewhere in the tier, but I guess they haven't caused that much of an impression o3o Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Strider Tigerwolf Posted October 26, 2012 Author Report Share Posted October 26, 2012 Well it's the same with Mad Dolls. I haven't faced them enough times...but frankly I think Scorpions go to tier 3 at best. Also, Anti-Meta is just nasty >_< Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sleepy Posted October 26, 2012 Report Share Posted October 26, 2012 I feel this weird mixture of sadface and "lolz" when hearing that xD Then again, Dark Worlds kinda, really got me that time, and you have seen at least 2 of my matches, so you know what you are saying. and they are not even in the graph IRL xD Back to talking about tiers in this format: I remember there was a Ghishiki Deck on the other tournament, and Rituals have no Summoning Sickness so, it should almost work as it does IRL. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Strider Tigerwolf Posted October 26, 2012 Author Report Share Posted October 26, 2012 Yet the only gishki deck I've seen was wildflame's, and even then I don't have much of an opinion on it :/ Still needs to be tested for "effectiveness". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mugendramon Posted October 26, 2012 Report Share Posted October 26, 2012 [quote name='Chance Furlong' timestamp='1351270188' post='6054299'] Yet the only gishki deck I've seen was wildflame's, and even then I don't have much of an opinion on it :/ Still needs to be tested for "effectiveness". [/quote] I'll probably face it. ...Or have a rematch with Sleepy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sleepy Posted October 26, 2012 Report Share Posted October 26, 2012 [quote name='Excalibur-sama' timestamp='1351273692' post='6054328'] I'll probably face it. ...Or have a rematch with Sleepy. [/quote] I need to win a match before facing Wildflame ^^" and ruling out the possibility of losing would be mean, and probably cocky from my part xD I'm looking forward to it though. =D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Masked Puppet Posted October 26, 2012 Report Share Posted October 26, 2012 [quote name='Chance Furlong' timestamp='1351260790' post='6054211'] Probably just you. After reviewing my past tournaments and matches I've had using my own format, this is "my" results of the Tier List: Tier 1: Monarchs (Played) New HERO/Alius Beat (Played/Against) Wind-Ups (Played) Atlanteans (Played) Mermails (Played/Against) Karakuri (Against) Geargia (Against) Gadget Machines (Against) Machina (Against) Evols (Played/Against) Dark World (Played) Hieratics (Played/Against) Lightsworns (Played/Against) Anti-Meta (Chaos) (Played/Against) Anti-Meta (Stun) (Played/Against) Koa'ki Rock Stun (Played) Grand Psychics (Against) Chaos Dragons (Against) Twilight (Against) Zombies (Xyzs) (Against) Zombies (Synchro) (Against) Gladiator Beasts (Played) Firestars (Played) Blackwings (Against) X-Sabers (Against) Infernity (Against) Six Sams (Against) Agents (Played/Against) T.G. Stun (Against) Gravekeepers (Against) Dragunity (Against) Frogs (Played/Against) Tier 2: Inzektors (Played/Against) Scraps (Against) Crystal Beasts (Played) Evilswarm (Played/Against) Constellars (Against) Lavals (Against) Synchron (Played/Against) Tire 3 ...TBA? That's 1 hell of a Tier 1 List O.o [/quote] You... dont really grasp the concept of tiers well do you? Tier 1 is for the small handful decks that stand out above the rest. Tier 2 is for decks that all fall just short of cutting it. Tier 3 is playable stuff that's not really a good call but youll see played because people like the deck though not so much at events unless its Lightsworn That much tier 1 makes absolutely no sense and I guarantee that no more than 5 of them are actually tier 1 That said Id love to have someone help me test something Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Strider Tigerwolf Posted October 26, 2012 Author Report Share Posted October 26, 2012 The reason it's such a high number is because they don't stand out. Most of the "meta tiers" are pretty much SMASHED DOWN. I can guarantee that about 10-15 of those decks if not a few more deserve to stay at Tier 1. And I said, this is just from what I've gathered, it's not absolute especially given how my format is still in the early stages. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Masked Puppet Posted October 26, 2012 Report Share Posted October 26, 2012 Thing is youre getting skill levels mixed in with your tiers BlindMonkey helped me test some stuff last night and I have to say that his deck shouldnt do that well in the format. His skill level makes them stand out as better than they are Same goes for other decks Im sure. There are only 3 or so on that list that seem like they should stand out HEROes Machina Infernity and Lightsworns seem like the biggest offenders on this Tier 1 list Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
.Rai Posted October 26, 2012 Report Share Posted October 26, 2012 A big Tier 1 never gives a healthy format. One of the nice things about a meta is that it's stable, and there are stand-out decks. Unless you're mistaken, I'd change the format slightly to push some decks down. The best type of metagame is one with about 5 top decks, with plenty of Tier 2. Wind-Ups are no way Tier 1 here. Same with Frogs. I very much doubt that so many stun decks are thriving next to each other too (it's just generally impossible for any meta to have that much space). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Not-so-Radiant Arin Posted October 26, 2012 Report Share Posted October 26, 2012 [quote name='Masked Puppet' timestamp='1351275718' post='6054353'] HEROes Machina Infernity and Lightsworns seem like the biggest offenders on this Tier 1 list [/quote] Also, anything that is mainly synchrocentric, like Blackwings, X-Sabers, etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Masked Puppet Posted October 26, 2012 Report Share Posted October 26, 2012 [quote name='%2ERai' timestamp='1351275761' post='6054354'] A big Tier 1 never gives a healthy format. One of the nice things about a meta is that it's stable, and there are stand-out decks. Unless you're mistaken, I'd change the format slightly to push some decks down. The best type of metagame is one with about 5 top decks, with plenty of Tier 2. Wind-Ups are no way Tier 1 here. Same with Frogs. I very much doubt that so many stun decks are thriving next to each other too (it's just generally impossible for any meta to have that much space). [/quote] I think he meant Frogs as Frognarchs which have been playing consistently and are proving themselves. Not Wetland Frogs Otherwise this Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
.Rai Posted October 26, 2012 Report Share Posted October 26, 2012 [quote name='Masked Puppet' timestamp='1351275968' post='6054359'] I think he meant Frogs as Frognarchs which have been playing consistently and are proving themselves. Not Wetland Frogs Otherwise this [/quote] If so, I'd generally like to ask why both Monarchs and Frogs are listed in Tier 1. I can't think of any other viable Monarch variant. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Strider Tigerwolf Posted October 26, 2012 Author Report Share Posted October 26, 2012 -.- fine just scrap the whole thing and start from scratch. Help me TEST! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sleepy Posted October 26, 2012 Report Share Posted October 26, 2012 [quote name='Chance Furlong' timestamp='1351276263' post='6054362'] -.- fine just scrap the whole thing and start from scratch. Help me TEST! [/quote] I feel like having a duel and have some time for now, you can use my crappy Tokusentai deck for practice xD at least 1 match. EDIT: or not... sinse, you are offline now, I guess.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Not-so-Radiant Arin Posted October 26, 2012 Report Share Posted October 26, 2012 lol he was on like 15 minutes ago. I was actually chatting with him about building Chaos Dragons, and then later about Watthopperlock. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aerion Brightflame Posted October 26, 2012 Report Share Posted October 26, 2012 I don't think we can calls stuff in tiers yet. Even with the testing people have been doing, its to early. Yes, decks like Frognarchs stand out a lot, but people hae yet to test out a lot of Ideas. Also, Spellbooks? But yeah, I'll be up to help test stuff if you want. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Strider Tigerwolf Posted October 26, 2012 Author Report Share Posted October 26, 2012 O_o so so far we have me, Masked, Blind, D.A., andsleepy online Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darj Posted October 26, 2012 Report Share Posted October 26, 2012 [quote name='.Rai' timestamp='1351275761' post='6054354'] A big Tier 1 never gives a healthy format. One of the nice things about a meta is that it's stable, and there are stand-out decks. Unless you're mistaken, I'd change the format slightly to push some decks down. The best type of metagame is one with about 5 top decks, with plenty of Tier 2. Wind-Ups are no way Tier 1 here. Same with Frogs. I very much doubt that so many stun decks are thriving next to each other too (it's just generally impossible for any meta to have that much space). [/quote] I thought that a big Tier 1 would actually be healthy because it adds variety to the game. When I see the top 8 from YCSs I find boring how half of them are Wind-Ups/HEROs, etc. (depending on the format) which means that a decent Side against them will allow you the get the upper hand against 4+ players. But I am no expert in these matters, just sharing my opinion. But I got to agree that the list is unnaturally long: Altough this format allows Tier 2 to shine, I really doubt that so many Decks became actually Tier 1. As Archbaron already stated, I believe it is too soon to start defining Tiers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wildflame Posted October 26, 2012 Report Share Posted October 26, 2012 HEROs rely a lot in cards on the banlist, I don't see them doing that well. Also, I used that Gishki-Genex-Mermail-Atlantean deck during the last tournament, not this one. It was doing quite well, but then I took a Necrovalley to the knee. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Strider Tigerwolf Posted October 26, 2012 Author Report Share Posted October 26, 2012 [quote name='Wildflame' timestamp='1351283667' post='6054451'] HEROs rely a lot in cards on the banlist, I don't see them doing that well. [/quote] HERO Beat is quite nice BTW! I've posted some of the decks I'm using currently in my format in the Your Deck section. Check em out! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Strider Tigerwolf Posted October 27, 2012 Author Report Share Posted October 27, 2012 Bumping discussion thread?ALSO! If anyone is online atm, I wish to test! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D.A._Sakuyamon Posted October 27, 2012 Report Share Posted October 27, 2012 Would this make an impact? [img]http://images1.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20070713005034/yugioh/images/thumb/0/0e/BacktoSquareOneDR3-EN-C-UE.jpg/300px-BacktoSquareOneDR3-EN-C-UE.jpg[/img] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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