Aix Posted January 7, 2014 Report Share Posted January 7, 2014 I should've made my question more clear: Is the monster treated as "being Special Summoned" for the effect of 101/c101?Yes, it still is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canadian Posted January 8, 2014 Report Share Posted January 8, 2014 If Ghostrick Dullahan is sent to the Graveyard, can I target another Ghostrick Dullahan in the Graveyard and return it to the Extra Deck? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
evilfusion Posted January 8, 2014 Report Share Posted January 8, 2014 If Ghostrick Dullahan is sent to the Graveyard, can I target another Ghostrick Dullahan in the Graveyard and return it to the Extra Deck? Yes. Dullahan just says "another Ghostrick", as opposed to "except Ghostrick Dullahan". If there is a different copy of Dullahan in the Graveyard, it can be targeted for Dullahan's effect. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mugendramon Posted January 11, 2014 Report Share Posted January 11, 2014 Yes, it still is. No, the monster was set, its card memory was reset. It's not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Northern Sage Posted January 11, 2014 Report Share Posted January 11, 2014 If Flying "C" is triggered off an Xyz Summon, the Summon still goes through, right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blake Posted January 11, 2014 Report Share Posted January 11, 2014 No, the monster was set, its card memory was reset. It's not.Unless I'm misreading his post, you're wrong. If you flip a monster that was SSd face-down, and it either stays that way or flips back face-up, it can still be nommed by C101 or exploded by Jowgen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mugendramon Posted January 11, 2014 Report Share Posted January 11, 2014 Unless I'm misreading his post, you're wrong. If you flip a monster that was SSd face-down, and it either stays that way or flips back face-up, it can still be nommed by C101 or exploded by Jowgen. If an Xyz monster is set due to the effect of Book of Moon, then flipped face-up by the effect of Photon Papilloperative, does that count as being flipped summoned? Nommable by 101/C101? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miror B Posted January 11, 2014 Report Share Posted January 11, 2014 And the answer is "It is still a Special Summoned monster" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blake Posted January 11, 2014 Report Share Posted January 11, 2014 You said no to AIX. Who said that in this scenario it can be nommed by C101 and I added Jowgen who was a major factor in those rulings. Even if the Xyz goes face-down, the gamestate remembers that it was Special Summoned, even post-Papi. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mugendramon Posted January 11, 2014 Report Share Posted January 11, 2014 You said no to AIX. Who said that in this scenario it can be nommed by C101 and I added Jowgen who was a major factor in those rulings. Even if the Xyz goes face-down, the gamestate remembers that it was Special Summoned, even post-Papi. Is it because of materials, or because it's an extra deck monster or some other weird sheet? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
newhat Posted January 11, 2014 Report Share Posted January 11, 2014 If I were new to this game and naïve I would say "Logically, all Extra Deck Monsters must be Special Summoned to get to the field". Question: If my ZW - Sleipnir Mail is equipped to my Inzektor Exa-Beetle by its effect, and my opponent kills Exa-Beetle, can Sleipnir trigger? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miror B Posted January 11, 2014 Report Share Posted January 11, 2014 Is it because of materials, or because it's an extra deck monster or some other weird sheet?No, it's because monsters don't forget how they were summoned unless they were removed from the field.Just like those new Ghostrick thing's that SS in face down Defense. They're still Special Summoned monsters. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mugendramon Posted January 11, 2014 Report Share Posted January 11, 2014 No, it's because monsters don't forget how they were summoned unless they were removed from the field.Just like those new Ghostrick thing's that SS in face down Defense. They're still Special Summoned monsters.I'm assuming the exception to this are Flip Summons? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blake Posted January 11, 2014 Report Share Posted January 11, 2014 I'm assuming the exception to this are Flip Summons?It is still a special summoned monster even after flip summoning. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miror B Posted January 12, 2014 Report Share Posted January 12, 2014 I'm assuming the exception to this are Flip Summons?Flip Summon is it's own category and can be done with both a Special Summoned and Normal Summoned monster. Flip Summoning it does not make it forget how it was originally summoned. Basically, Flip Summoning isn't tied to a type of summon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Northern Sage Posted January 12, 2014 Report Share Posted January 12, 2014 If Flying "C" is triggered off an Xyz Summon, the Summon still goes through, right?Anyone? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
evilfusion Posted January 12, 2014 Report Share Posted January 12, 2014 Anyone? Yes, of course it still goes through. Flying "C" activates in response to a successful Summon. The Xyz Summon has already happened, so Flying "C" being Summoned doesn't interfere. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the_engineer Posted January 16, 2014 Report Share Posted January 16, 2014 What does exactly "Excavate" mean in the new sylvans archetype? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mysty Posted January 16, 2014 Report Share Posted January 16, 2014 What does exactly "Excavate" mean in the new sylvans archetype? It means "reveal", pretty much. It just specifies that you're revealing cards from the deck. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
evilfusion Posted January 16, 2014 Report Share Posted January 16, 2014 Excavate is to reveal cards from the Deck. The cards revealed are still considered to be in the Deck at this time until sent elsewhere by the effect. The distinction, I imagine, is that "reveal" and "excavate" are not always the same thing, so if an effect says "reveal" it's not considered excavating. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
賢狼ホロ Posted January 17, 2014 Report Share Posted January 17, 2014 1) Can you really activate Vylon Prism's effect and equip it to the same Synchro monster it was used as material for? 2) Red Eyes Zombie Dragon summons monsters during the Damage Step so they cannot be Bottomless'd, right? 3) If a card is chained and destroys one of the targets for Kuraz's effect, will the player still draw a card for that target? (I guess: "Are cards sent to the Graveyard when their effect resolves or when the chain resolves" is the same question.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mysty Posted January 17, 2014 Report Share Posted January 17, 2014 1) Can you really activate Vylon Prism's effect and equip it to the same Synchro monster it was used as material for? 2) Red Eyes Zombie Dragon summons monsters during the Damage Step so they cannot be Bottomless'd, right? 3) If a card is chained and destroys one of the targets for Kuraz's effect, will the player still draw a card for that target?(I guess: "Are cards sent to the Graveyard when their effect resolves or when the chain resolves" is the same question.) 1. Indeed you can. While it is an optional effect, it also starts with "If", meaning it doesn't miss timing and will activate the next time a player could have priority, which is after the entire Synchro Summon process is conducted. 2. Correct. Bottomless can't be activated during the Damage Step. 3. No, Kuraz needs to destroy the card for the controller to draw a card.Also, your questions are not the same. While it is usually true when all the cards are sent to the graveyard when the chain resolves, destroyed cards are removed from the board immediately.However, if a player uses Kuraz targeting two cards and the player activates one of them - MST - targeting the other, then MST will first destroy its target and Kuraz will destroy MST, since it is face-up on the field until it is destroyed by Kuraz. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
賢狼ホロ Posted January 17, 2014 Report Share Posted January 17, 2014 Thanks for the answers! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-Noel- Posted January 18, 2014 Report Share Posted January 18, 2014 Can Serial Spell copy Rank-Up-Magic The Seventh One's effect? just curious Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
newhat Posted January 18, 2014 Report Share Posted January 18, 2014 Can Serial Spell copy Rank-Up-Magic The Seventh One's effect? just curiousNo, because the effect is Once per Duel. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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