regalsword65 Posted August 11, 2009 Report Share Posted August 11, 2009 I know I know this isnt about OCG. As a matter of fact I think this is a little off-topic though.. In my opinion, there is a difference between a noob and a newbie. A noob is a new person who isn't smart. A Newbie is a new person who is smart and listening to help. Back to OCG: Pretty much, no matter how many times we say it OCG is still a big deal to most people. Although OCG does make your cards look good and all, its not such a big deal that your going to post all the corrections because you think "OCG makes your cards perfect, not the realism and effect." Well,technically the OCG IS the effect. Its just like salt on fries. (Weird figure of speech) You dont have to have the salt (OCG) on the fries (The effect). Of course, if the fries don't have ANY salt you put some on. I don't even know if i made sense in this post. Sometimes The things i try to say come out wrongly worded. This is most likely my last post on this thread. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
War Kittens Posted August 11, 2009 Report Share Posted August 11, 2009 That metaphor actually makes a whole lot of sense. It seems to say that basically, those with cullinary skills should be trying to help those who are able to set water on fire learn how to get better. Good card reviewers are able to point the new chefs in the right direction by telling them how much salt to put on and where. Did I read that right? Or did I go in a completely different direction? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kitty Posted August 11, 2009 Report Share Posted August 11, 2009 I know I know this isnt about OCG. As a matter of fact I think this is a little off-topic though.. In my opinion' date=' there is a difference between a noob and a newbie. A noob is a new person who isn't smart. A Newbie is a new person who is smart and listening to help. Back to OCG: Pretty much, no matter how many times we say it OCG is still a big deal to most people. Although OCG does make your cards look good and all, its not such a big deal that your going to post all the corrections because you think "OCG makes your cards perfect, not the realism and effect." Well,technically the OCG IS the effect. Its just like salt on fries. (Weird figure of speech) You dont have to have the salt (OCG) on the fries (The effect). Of course, if the fries don't have ANY salt you put some on. I don't even know if i made sense in this post. Sometimes The things i try to say come out wrongly worded.[/quote'] i get whut your saying and i agree... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
regalsword65 Posted August 11, 2009 Report Share Posted August 11, 2009 Ok good. I just dont want to sound like a complete idiot on an important thread. Thats all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
.:JBM:. Posted August 11, 2009 Report Share Posted August 11, 2009 I try my best to help poor suffering noobs who have no idea how to make cards. I give them OCG fixes and good advice on effects and where to get pics from etc. But I have been noticing the fact that there are more noobish cards lately and people should just learn how to make cards before trying. This is the exact situation. Bravo for being able to put it that way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
War Kittens Posted August 11, 2009 Report Share Posted August 11, 2009 Y'know, I can't read this thread without the Newb Defense League theme popping into my head. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
regalsword65 Posted August 11, 2009 Report Share Posted August 11, 2009 Maybe I'm not done. I want to cover all the topics. What do you mean by effects are suffering? Language is becoming prime? How? Like cussing?Like saying fail to every newbie thread? I'm kinda confused now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kitty Posted August 11, 2009 Report Share Posted August 11, 2009 i on the effect suffering thing it was meant to say that cards that are mada don't have good effects that support the card or other cards... (i think now not sure) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest JoshIcy Posted August 11, 2009 Report Share Posted August 11, 2009 OCG to me, is becoming such... The way it is.That creativity is crawling into the shadows. Becoming useless because people hate the way you worded it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ω Link Ω Posted August 11, 2009 Report Share Posted August 11, 2009 ocg is all people care about btw icyblue were did you get that sig thing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OMGAKITTY Posted August 12, 2009 Report Share Posted August 12, 2009 OCG to me' date=' is becoming such... The way it is.That creativity is crawling into the shadows. Becoming useless because people hate the way you worded it.[/quote'] To be fair, most newbs don't have creative effects. I see where you're coming from, but to completely disregard OCG would have an overall negative effect on the quality of cards in this forum, imo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Archelaus Posted August 12, 2009 Report Share Posted August 12, 2009 Hmm, I see that alot. I even see some posts like this: Decent OCG.?/10 ^^Isn't that considered as spamming already.It's a Short Pointless Annoying Message. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest JoshIcy Posted August 12, 2009 Report Share Posted August 12, 2009 OCG to me' date=' is becoming such... The way it is.That creativity is crawling into the shadows. Becoming useless because people hate the way you worded it.[/quote'] To be fair, most newbs don't have creative effects. I see where you're coming from, but to completely disregard OCG would have an overall negative effect on the quality of cards in this forum, imo. Never wanted that. But the OCG obsession is like a virus at this point.I want to quell it severely. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OMGAKITTY Posted August 12, 2009 Report Share Posted August 12, 2009 OCG to me' date=' is becoming such... The way it is.That creativity is crawling into the shadows. Becoming useless because people hate the way you worded it.[/quote'] To be fair, most newbs don't have creative effects. I see where you're coming from, but to completely disregard OCG would have an overall negative effect on the quality of cards in this forum, imo. Never wanted that. But the OCG obsession is like a virus at this point.I want to quell it severely. Even then, I don't know if that would bring the creativity level up. I don't think that the two are related. I wouldn't mind seeing it...quelled. Although probably not to the degree you wish it to be. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Huntar! Posted August 12, 2009 Report Share Posted August 12, 2009 Thats the thing though, thats when you MAKE OCG to work with your concepts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deucalion Posted August 12, 2009 Report Share Posted August 12, 2009 I think the creativity level is going down simply because there are a limited number of effects out there. There are only so many objects in a YuGiOh game a card can target, and only so many ways cards can activate, so after a while in this place, you get to see most of them, so nothing seems new. I don't think that being harsh to newbies is having any particular effect on creativity, although I do think people aren't putting enough effort into helping them improve. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anonymous Posted August 12, 2009 Report Share Posted August 12, 2009 But the OCG obsession is like a virus at this point.I want to quell it severely. It is cancer that is killing YCM! xD (it is funny if you know what am I thinking about but it is forbiden to mention it, lol) Other problem is that, when someone is posting a lot of cards and expects other to correct his OCG, but he dosen't included writen versions of his cards in his post. At that time it is above anyones power and will to correct all mistakes (becouse it is too much writing and takes time), and at that time usualy witing just "bad OCG". I did it only once or twice since I returned here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
regalsword65 Posted August 12, 2009 Report Share Posted August 12, 2009 Well, if one OCG error was on ALL of the cards in a set. Do you think you need to correct every last card of your set then repost them all??? No you don't. Of course....Its such a big deal now that they'll give like 7.5/10 or 6.5/10 bad OCG.. Effects: I don't post cards often. Even though I think they are good. I don't post most of my cards because I already know the 1st post will probally say "OCG if off" PERIOD. Even though I went through the whole card and corrected all those OCG errors. And besides the fact of my cards can't ever find a decent pic. lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tortoise Kyle Posted August 12, 2009 Report Share Posted August 12, 2009 Personally it doesnt seem fair if you try to help a new member then get a warning for it.But i do admit that your 'smile' policy (as im going to call it) seems good, it just doesn't get the new members to reach their full potential. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
regalsword65 Posted August 12, 2009 Report Share Posted August 12, 2009 True...Of course posting the OCG corrections only isn't really help because OCG doesn't matter. Even though to 90% of all people viewing the realistic cards, it does. OCG makes the card look like it is real, thats all. OCG isnt everything about the card. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sleepy Posted August 13, 2009 Report Share Posted August 13, 2009 Woow. I must say I agree with you Icy.I don't really visit this section often, and have come to give mainly OCG-based comments.I used to comment on creativity but somewhere along the line forgot about it.But well, I can always change back for the best :) It's a pretty good idea to remember everyone that effect takes priority over OCG fix (specially when most members don't really "fix" it anyways, and just say annoying EPIC FAIL/10 comments)Although the message should be in a sticky somewhere in here, where everyone will look at it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OMGAKITTY Posted August 13, 2009 Report Share Posted August 13, 2009 Woow. I must say I agree with you Icy.I don't really visit this section often' date=' and have come to give mainly OCG-based comments.I used to comment on creativity but somewhere along the line forgot about it.But well, I can always change back for the best :) It's a pretty good idea to remember everyone that effect takes priority over OCG fix (specially when most members don't really "fix" it anyways, and just say annoying EPIC FAIL/10 comments)Although the message should be in a sticky somewhere in here, where everyone will look at it.[/quote'] Ah, this is stickied. >_> Hmm...This discussion has kind of wound down....Everyone is just agreeing OCG isn't everything. I smell a lock soon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sleepy Posted August 13, 2009 Report Share Posted August 13, 2009 but it is good that eveyone is agreeing, also, this is just the discussion thread, not the actual solution I believe Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OMGAKITTY Posted August 13, 2009 Report Share Posted August 13, 2009 The problem being there is no actual solution at the moment...Really, sticky-ing a thread like this reminding members that OCG isn't everything is the best solution I can think of. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tortoise Kyle Posted August 13, 2009 Report Share Posted August 13, 2009 I belive ocg isnt everything either but people will continue to use bad ocg and it might get worse if we dont try to help them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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