Althemia Posted March 15, 2016 Report Share Posted March 15, 2016 Sangan Level 3 DARK Fiend-Type Effect Monster ATK 1000 DEF 600 The effect of “Sangan” can only be used once per turn. (1) When this card is sent from the field to the Graveyard: Add 1 monster with 1500 or less ATK from your Deck to your hand. If you add a monster to your hand with this effect, you cannot activate the effects of monsters with the same name during that turn. Still seems perfectly fine to be honest, but Sangan is obviously a lot weaker than it was in it's hayday. Thoughts? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Nyx Avatar Posted March 15, 2016 Report Share Posted March 15, 2016 Waiting a turn to activate said card's effect's not much problem. Feel free to argue me on this, but this errata seems solid, as it still keeps fair practicality. Not AS good as the original Sangan, but it's not trash either. Though I am concerned at just what Decks would utilize this card should the errata see release. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toffee. Posted March 15, 2016 Report Share Posted March 15, 2016 That's..... An odd way to nerf it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryusei the Morning Star Posted March 15, 2016 Report Share Posted March 15, 2016 Card is still too good and will be in everything Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dragulas Posted March 15, 2016 Report Share Posted March 15, 2016 I hope witch of the black forest follows the same route if that means getting her back, the errata seems legit Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryusei the Morning Star Posted March 15, 2016 Report Share Posted March 15, 2016 I hope witch of the black forest follows the same route if that means getting her back, the errata seems legitWitch searches Monarchs, and OCG just got out of a format where Monarchs and BA kept basically every other deck from being playable. Don't count on it in the near future Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blake Posted March 15, 2016 Report Share Posted March 15, 2016 It didn't need a nerf, but it's still functional this way. Retains all of its old issues and more, though, and a number of the weaker decks that DID want it now don't, such as Fabled or Synchrons. At least, not near as much as they did. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryusei the Morning Star Posted March 15, 2016 Report Share Posted March 15, 2016 It didn't need a nerf, but it's still functional this way. Retains all of its old issues and more, though, and a number of the weaker decks that DID want it now don't, such as Fabled or Synchrons. At least, not near as much as they did.I still think it's a little too good. It can't miss timing and we're getting a lot of 2 scales. But they did do a nice job in making sure that searching hand traps with isn't ridic anymore Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
~~~~ Posted March 15, 2016 Report Share Posted March 15, 2016 Could I use this in Speedroids to search Terrortop? Well, obviously I could, but would it be good? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shadowsapex Posted March 15, 2016 Report Share Posted March 15, 2016 What a surprise, huh? Feels like Konami's trying to promote rank 3s.This is a versatile card, with tons of uses. I wonder just what kind of impact it'll have on decks of today. inb4 we get another 'arrest' card showing Sangan being freed from jail. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryusei the Morning Star Posted March 15, 2016 Report Share Posted March 15, 2016 They need to make a card called Jailbreak with a bunch of DM era cards getting out and then proceed to errata them in the following list haha I think Sangan can honestly fit in most decks. Ruling question though. If I use the effect of a card, then Sangan triggers, can I not search that card? What if it's my only target in the deck? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Βyakuya Posted March 15, 2016 Report Share Posted March 15, 2016 They need to make a card called Jailbreak with a bunch of DM era cards getting out and then proceed to errata them in the following list haha I think Sangan can honestly fit in most decks. Ruling question though. If I use the effect of a card, then Sangan triggers, can I not search that card? What if it's my only target in the deck? Sangan is mandatory so it starts the chain first. If you chain something else, particularly if you search for a last target in your Deck that meets the CL2 eff's conditions, then Sangan would fizzle and the deck would have to be shown. At least...that's what I think. Nevertheless, Sangan was fine without the errata. Though, I did testing on a custom banlist with him in Shaddolls, and Fusing into Winda with him nets a lot of things like Veiler, and at most if I used a revival option I'd end the turn with a Winda + other floodgate/beatstick monsters and +2 Veilers in hand, which was really broken. But I guess Sangan can finally be freed from being a prison jabroni and can become a potential tech in most Synchro builds. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryusei the Morning Star Posted March 15, 2016 Report Share Posted March 15, 2016 Sangan is mandatory so it starts the chain first. If you chain something else, particularly if you search for a last target in your Deck that meets the CL2 eff's conditions, then Sangan would fizzle and the deck would have to be shown. At least...that's what I think. Nevertheless, Sangan was fine without the errata. Though, I did testing on a custom banlist with him in Shaddolls, and Fusing into Winda with him nets a lot of things like Veiler, and at most if I used a revival option I'd end the turn with a Winda + other floodgate/beatstick monsters and +2 Veilers in hand, which was really broken. But I guess Sangan can finally be freed from being a prison jabroni and can become a potential tech in most Synchro builds.Right, so if I used Card Trooper, and Sangan dies. The only legal target in my deck is a second trooper. I have to reveal my deck and Sangan fizzles? Ugh Sangan may still have a use in Dolls, the format slowed the funk down so grabbing a Maxx or such isn't a terrible idea. Furthermore, with TER back and Ignister gutted, Call becomes that much more attractive. DMoC, TER and Sangan now let alone every Shaddoll out there. Very interested to see your deck profile Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spinny Posted March 15, 2016 Report Share Posted March 15, 2016 M E T A L P H O S I S Is what i would say, if this didnt get this nerf lol. Shame we cant use our graydle alligators the same turn as we search them with this D: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tinkerer Posted March 15, 2016 Report Share Posted March 15, 2016 Huh, another thing is you can't add Sangan with Sangan anymore... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IQuitDolphin Posted March 15, 2016 Report Share Posted March 15, 2016 Huh, another thing is you can't add Sangan with Sangan anymore... You never could technically? It was limited in the first place when usage saw a spike cause TGU. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tinkerer Posted March 15, 2016 Report Share Posted March 15, 2016 You never could technically? It was limited in the first place when usage saw a spike cause TGU.Sangan was never at 2+ anytime at all? Dang, now I understand why it's upset on the arrest cards... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IQuitDolphin Posted March 15, 2016 Report Share Posted March 15, 2016 Use Sangan to search Exodia Piece obviously-*shot* ---- Use and search hand trap is pretty much best use for it at the moment, can't think of anything worthwhile to search. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryusei the Morning Star Posted March 15, 2016 Report Share Posted March 15, 2016 Use Sangan to search Exodia Piece obviously-*shot* ---- Use and search hand trap is pretty much best use for it at the moment, can't think of anything worthwhile to search.Thousand Eyes Idol to summon Restrict the proper way :3 Dino Rabbit is basically viable again Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IQuitDolphin Posted March 15, 2016 Report Share Posted March 15, 2016 Rescue Rabbit to 3 fir....oh in OCG. ok. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryusei the Morning Star Posted March 15, 2016 Report Share Posted March 15, 2016 Dino Rabbit to 3 fir....oh in OCG. ok.Sangan, DMoC, CED to 1 fir...oh in TCG. ok. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VCR_CAT Posted March 15, 2016 Report Share Posted March 15, 2016 For Metalphosis, the question of using this over Emissary of the Afterlife lies in that Emissary lets you use the monster you search, lacks an OPT, and has a more useful level overall. However, Sangan doesn't let your opponent search (if they also are using Metalphosis) and has a much wider range of cards that you can search. I mean, at the time being, Emissary's at 3 and Sangan's at 1; but for Metalphosis their usefulness is fairly equal, and there's no given reason that one is better than the other. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goodfusion Posted March 15, 2016 Report Share Posted March 15, 2016 For Metalphosis, the question of using this over Emissary of the Afterlife lies in that Emissary lets you use the monster you search, lacks an OPT, and has a more useful level overall. However, Sangan doesn't let your opponent search (if they also are using Metalphosis) and has a much wider range of cards that you can search. I mean, at the time being, Emissary's at 3 and Sangan's at 1; but for Metalphosis their usefulness is fairly equal, and there's no given reason that one is better than the other. I am pretty sure you would be able to use the effect of a Metalphosis searched through this card, as it says "you cannot activate the effect of monsters with that name", so as you are using them as Spells it isn't affected. This would obviously apply to any Pendulum Monster's Pendulum effect. Correct me if I'm wrong Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blake Posted March 15, 2016 Report Share Posted March 15, 2016 I am pretty sure you would be able to use the effect of a Metalphosis searched through this card, as it says "you cannot activate the effect of monsters with that name", so as you are using them as Spells it isn't affected. This would obviously apply to any Pendulum Monster's Pendulum effect. Correct me if I'm wrongNope, you're on point. Same as Fusion Conscription into Odd-Eyes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goodfusion Posted March 15, 2016 Report Share Posted March 15, 2016 With that in mind, this could be pretty nice way to set up scales in Pendulum decks as well as other uses it has. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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