IQuitDolphin Posted June 19, 2016 Report Share Posted June 19, 2016 Now, now, I'm sure Konami will ruin our dreams clarify this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heraldry_lord Posted June 19, 2016 Report Share Posted June 19, 2016 How did they rule Tuning Gum re: using its effect on Xyz? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Azuh Posted June 19, 2016 Report Share Posted June 19, 2016 Lv 1 synchros have finally become possible!Errrr? How exactly? It treats the monster as a Tuner If youre going to say that you can equip this to an Xyz, you wont be able to Synch with an Xyz because it has no Level. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryusei the Morning Star Posted June 19, 2016 Report Share Posted June 19, 2016 Well no level+ lv1 =1? I dunno, Tuning Gum rulings are in Japanese and I'm too tired for this sheet Somone else translate or wait till morrow Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bellringer Angel Posted June 19, 2016 Report Share Posted June 19, 2016 Well no level+ lv1 =1? I dunno, Tuning Gum rulings are in Japanese and I'm too tired for this s***Somone else translate or wait till morrowIt's probably the same case as Gravity Bind. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VCR_CAT Posted June 19, 2016 Report Share Posted June 19, 2016 So, has anyone else noticed that this works CRAZY well with Union Hanger? Think about it: Gold/Silver Gadget -> Summon Union (preferrably Wyvern or Drake); Hanger goes off, equip with the 1 or 2 Torques you run in the deck. Hey cool, synch 8. If you run the Brilliant Build and sent a Wyvern, then Wyvern triggers, summon another union from hand, NS something else... it gets kinda crazy. The unfortunate part is that, aside from Emeral, don't have much in-deck to send it back to the deck; but no worries on that. Probably wouldn't do that play more than twice in a duel. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thomas★Zero Posted June 19, 2016 Report Share Posted June 19, 2016 You know what really fascinates me about This card? The fact it's gears are damn near identical to those of the Geargiano monsters. Srsly, it's a cool detail. I was going to say the same thing where I wonder if we would be getting a Geargiano synchro along with this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dova Posted June 19, 2016 Report Share Posted June 19, 2016 About the whole Xyz/Synchro thing, I'm all for it, if it is a thing, but following that logic if a card was made saying "Special Summon 1 card from your Graveyard with no DEF" (or 0, idk right now), you could target a non-monster? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Althemia Posted June 19, 2016 Report Share Posted June 19, 2016 Well no level+ lv1 =1? I dunno, Tuning Gum rulings are in Japanese and I'm too tired for this sheet Somone else translate or wait till morrow Yeah but monsters without Levels can't be used as Synchro Materials. With the same logic as what you guys are thinking about, you'd be able to use Xyzs as Level 0 non-Tuner Synchro Materials which just doesn't make sense. This card seems really slow though and idk, don't really think it's worth it. Probably a tech to be able to get from the Hangar, but that's about it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Nyx Avatar Posted June 19, 2016 Report Share Posted June 19, 2016 I find this intriguing, actually. The Xyz would then become a Tuner with no Level (but with a Rank) and in theory there is nothing stopping you from using it along a monster(s) with a Level to Synchro Summon a monster with the same Level as its non-Tuner material(s).But then what? What exactly do you do with it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blake Posted June 19, 2016 Report Share Posted June 19, 2016 So, has anyone else noticed that this works CRAZY well with Union Hanger? Think about it: Gold/Silver Gadget -> Summon Union (preferrably Wyvern or Drake); Hanger goes off, equip with the 1 or 2 Torques you run in the deck. Hey cool, synch 8. If you run the Brilliant Build and sent a Wyvern, then Wyvern triggers, summon another union from hand, NS something else... it gets kinda crazy. The unfortunate part is that, aside from Emeral, don't have much in-deck to send it back to the deck; but no worries on that. Probably wouldn't do that play more than twice in a duel.funking thank you, it took people way too long to understand Union hangar here Though stop trying to insist every tuner needs to recycle =x Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
玄魔の王 Posted June 19, 2016 Report Share Posted June 19, 2016 f***ing thank you, it took people way too long to understand Union hangar here Though stop trying to insist every tuner needs to recycle =xI caught that right away. Also, Heavy Armor is now a 1-card LV7 Synchro, and this (if revived etc) allows Trishula. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heraldry_lord Posted June 19, 2016 Report Share Posted June 19, 2016 So, has anyone else noticed that this works CRAZY well with Union Hanger? f***ing thank you, it took people way too long to understand Union hangar here Though stop trying to insist every tuner needs to recycle =x I noticed it the minute I saw it was a LIGHT Machine-Type Union monster. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blake Posted June 19, 2016 Report Share Posted June 19, 2016 It's not noticing it if you don't point out the card's (only?) good and obvious interaction. It took until the /second page/ for it to be mentioned. Hindsight is 20/20. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heraldry_lord Posted June 19, 2016 Report Share Posted June 19, 2016 It's not noticing it if you don't point out the card's (only?) good and obvious interaction. It took until the /second page/ for it to be mentioned. Hindsight is 20/20. So I had to mention it to notice it? If it makes you feel any better, I did point it out in another forum. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Progenitor Posted June 19, 2016 Report Share Posted June 19, 2016 I find this intriguing, actually. The Xyz would then become a Tuner with no Level (but with a Rank) and in theory there is nothing stopping you from using it along a monster(s) with a Level to Synchro Summon a monster with the same Level as its non-Tuner material(s).This has already been answered, but I just want to clarify further, as it is a common misconception. Xyz monsters are not "level 0." They physically do not have a level. If I'm making a level 7 synchro, trying to use an Xyz Monster would quite literally be the equivalent of:7 + Apple = 7. Apple is not a number; Xyz monsters do not have a level. The more you know. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darj Posted June 19, 2016 Report Share Posted June 19, 2016 Oh, right. The "formula" for Synchro Summoning specifically requires materials with a level. And here I was already thinking in using a Rank4 + Level4 to Summon an Arc Light or Hastorr xD Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VCR_CAT Posted June 19, 2016 Report Share Posted June 19, 2016 f***ing thank you, it took people way too long to understand Union hangar here Though stop trying to insist every tuner needs to recycle =x Even with fast decks I consider their longevity; sue me unu Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Expelsword Posted June 19, 2016 Report Share Posted June 19, 2016 This has already been answered, but I just want to clarify further, as it is a common misconception. Xyz monsters are not "level 0." They physically do not have a level. If I'm making a level 7 synchro, trying to use an Xyz Monster would quite literally be the equivalent of:7 + Apple = 7. Apple is not a number; Xyz monsters do not have a level. The more you know. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NaNTrying to do math with undefined numbers doesn't work. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Progenitor Posted June 19, 2016 Report Share Posted June 19, 2016 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NaNTrying to do math with undefined numbers doesn't work.Indeed.Apple is NaN.7 + NaN =/= 7. It's just a lot easier for people to understand if you make the example sound silly when they think about it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toffee. Posted June 19, 2016 Report Share Posted June 19, 2016 Sucks that Silver/Gold Gadget can ONLY Summon 4s.Would make This card more live, outside of Union Hanger. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Synchronized Posted June 19, 2016 Report Share Posted June 19, 2016 Interestingly it's Geargia colors. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premier Alexander Romanov Posted June 19, 2016 Author Report Share Posted June 19, 2016 Sucks that Silver/Gold Gadget can ONLY Summon 4s.Would make This card more live, outside of Union Hanger.Still, there are a number of LV8 Synchros that are useful, such as PSY-Frame Omega, Scarlight Red Dragon Archfiend, and Angel of Zera. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tinkerer Posted June 19, 2016 Report Share Posted June 19, 2016 Angel of Zera.I've gotta say, I've never seen anyone play Angel of Zera except for this one guy who ran Eccentric Boy in a deck of level 5s, let alone classify it under "useful level 8 Synchros"... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heraldry_lord Posted June 19, 2016 Report Share Posted June 19, 2016 Still, there are a number of LV8 Synchros that are useful, such as PSY-Frame Omega, Scarlight Red Dragon Archfiend, and Angel of Zera. I'd sooner use Scrap Dragon or Bureido than Zera. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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