vla1ne Posted November 12, 2020 Report Share Posted November 12, 2020 3 minutes ago, Ryusei the Morning Star said: it's just coincidence bro Coincidence like one of the usb drives that contains dominion code access passwords getting stolen? Mighty lot of those lately. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryusei the Morning Star Posted November 12, 2020 Author Report Share Posted November 12, 2020 Just now, vla1ne said: Coincidence like one of the usb drives that contains dominion code access passwords getting stolen? Mighty lot of those lately. Surely some of the closest states in the nation wouldn't happen to be using Dominion would they? Surely not Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryusei the Morning Star Posted November 12, 2020 Author Report Share Posted November 12, 2020 4 minutes ago, vla1ne said: Coincidence like one of the usb drives that contains dominion code access passwords getting stolen? Mighty lot of those lately. https://apnews.com/article/voting-machines-voting-custodio-elections-philadelphia-f8a6453dc9e211ef20e9412d003511b1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phantom Roxas Posted November 12, 2020 Report Share Posted November 12, 2020 I would think that Trump would want his lawyers to claim there's fraud if he hopes to have a chance in these lawsuits. To Goldstein's credit, he said "that's a pretty big step" to claim fraud, so I'm not begrudging him. It just seems that while Trump wants to claim that he's been defrauded, his lawyers do have enough sense not to be nearly as extreme. Because apparently I need to keep asking this, can we drop the Sharpie conspiracy yet? I've lost track of how many times that one specifically has been shot down. It seems hopeless when the biggest firm representing Trump has withdrawn.  Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Enguin Enguin Enguin Enguin Posted November 12, 2020 Report Share Posted November 12, 2020 On 11/10/2020 at 10:07 PM, Ryusei the Morning Star said: https://www.zerohedge.com/political/woman-who-voted-trump-texas-shocked-find-she-also-voted-mail-ballot-california this is a story written under the pen name tyler durden based solely on screenshots from a site that you can't yourself access to verify Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Enguin Enguin Enguin Enguin Posted November 12, 2020 Report Share Posted November 12, 2020 On 11/6/2020 at 2:58 PM, Godbrand said: It's been 3 days and still no result. Seems really fishy. There's been cases where Republicans being less than honest but honestly democrats are FAR worse at lying and cheating. This has fowl play written all over it. Now toxas will try to argue that democrats are perfect angels (they are not) i can accept (grudgingly) that biden has won but only as long he has won FAIR AND SQUARE and that does not seems the case at this point. Im not saying trump is a perfect angel but he is more honest than a certain guy who has been office for over 45 plus years at this point. At this point, many people just want this to be over so we can move on. Im not a fan of democrats but i will not accept socialism/Communism in any shape nor form to take place within the United States. Democrats how are not far left radical left i can somewhat tolerate as i may disagree with them on stuff they are not pushing for socialism and or communism. I honestly like old school democrats but currently most democrats are too far left and too far socialist for my liking. Honestly if they would have anyone besides Joe (NO Hillary/NO Bernie not you two) i don't think people would be panicking like they are. Joe wants socialism (which leads down a much darker path) Most people will not accept socialism as many who have fled from China/Cuba/Venezuela/etc can tell you they prefer freedom over what they left and to drop everything and every thing they know to move to a new home just to see the same sort of government to be installed of the place you left where your new home is utter heart breaking. Many of these people came to United States with nothing but the clothes on their back and made a very nice life (because America gives opportunities where other places do not) for themselves. Joe is a radical who try to push boundaries and yes he did made some very steep and radical promises so if he actually goes through with those promise, he can ruin the economy among other things. Naturally Joe is not a great choice for the country at this point and time. I also think that Joe is just a puppet so they can get Harris in without people voting for her (she would be the VP and Joe just leaves that would means she gets the captain's chair) many doctor think Joe may only last a year and that's what they want because they will get Harris througj this bait and switch tactic. This only speculation at the point but Joe is very old and has dementia so why is he running for president when he can do the job?, because Joe is a trojan horse to get their true candidate in through the "back door": Harris, again speculation but it does make alot of snense. No Harris is also a terrible person to be president. alright i know this is not necessarily a productive exercise and this post is about 5 days behind the conversation due to having been posted then but honestly just look at this, removed from the emotional height of the moments in which it is set and was written this thread is so funny Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(GigaDrillBreaker) Posted November 12, 2020 Report Share Posted November 12, 2020 "we will accept the results of the election but only if they are legitimate, and said legitimacy is determined by us rather than the ever-piling mountain of evidence against us" What at this point would it take for you guys to say "we were wrong, biden won fair and square" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryusei the Morning Star Posted November 12, 2020 Author Report Share Posted November 12, 2020 33 minutes ago, (GigaDrillBreaker) said: "we will accept the results of the election but only if they are legitimate, and said legitimacy is determined by us rather than the ever-piling mountain of evidence against us" What at this point would it take for you guys to say "we were wrong, biden won fair and square" Cope. We had to put up with 4 years of "Putin Elected Trump"  I'm guessing Biden's Chief of Staff no longer believes this  Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Enguin Enguin Enguin Enguin Posted November 12, 2020 Report Share Posted November 12, 2020 i don't know if there is a point based on my reading of the first 4 pages that happened before i arrived, from which i have one more piece of not necessarily productive and comfortably pointless analysis that has entertained me more than it is likely to appeal to anyone else pages 1 to 3 primarily contain: almost entirely civil posts from roxas with citations, making few claims and largely substantiating them all uncited conjecture from vla1ne and winter, which when argued against produces yet more of the same, particularly from vla1ne who will wildly ramble and introduce so much shit that is either tangentially or simply not at all related to what was being discussed (upon rereading i realise i did not clarify that it's not that vla1ne and winter did not necessarily provide citations, but moreso they would have unsubstantiated claims alongside the ones that did have actual citations, irrespective of their validity)Â that quite spectacular post from godbrand which just i want to actually do a thread just going through the whole thing line by line but i'll see if i wake up tomorrow still thinking that idea has merit to it because it may be a passing fancy, and a couple of others that are not nearly as wild a ride it has thankfully at least evolved from that as the actual election process has wound down, and i have totally lost sight of whatever the original point of this post was which is that based on those arguments i observed i think this thread could be perpetuated forever, but my hope is it will wind down around february when joe has firmly secured his seat in that little office the president lives in and trump has been banned from twitter for a few weeks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Enguin Enguin Enguin Enguin Posted November 12, 2020 Report Share Posted November 12, 2020 19 minutes ago, Ryusei the Morning Star said: Cope. We had to put up with 4 years of "Putin Elected Trump"  I'm guessing Biden's Chief of Staff no longer believes this   Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryusei the Morning Star Posted November 12, 2020 Author Report Share Posted November 12, 2020 Gerrymanders don't hold mate. The NC, TX, and MI ones broke for the GOP  The AR, IL, NY, ones are all gone too now on the other side.  You can very easily say it's gerrymandered. Also the GOP won the house "popular vote" so that argument wont stand either Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Enguin Enguin Enguin Enguin Posted November 12, 2020 Report Share Posted November 12, 2020 debated adding text thought i'd leave the video speak for itself but given it's 7 minutes long and you've replied within 3 you've not watched it and don't intend to so i will explain anyway that's a vox tweet, this is a vox video, granted years apart but both regarding around the same timeframe, and the latter providing an example of election rigging that is demonstrably proven to have taken place and which would be a logical basis on which one could state that elections are rigged what you currently are advocating is a nationwide conspiracy to inflate a candidate's votes in key areas across the country to propel that candidate to victory, something that has not been proven whatsoever so, given these are 2 entirely different things, the fact they both technically fall under the broad topic of election rigging is coincidental, and this is now fanfiction it is possible that ronald klain's statement pertains to the former, and he still holds that view, on that specific thing under that broad heading, and he does not suggest that he believes in the unsubstantiated conspiracy type rigging you believe is at hand at all so there is no contradiction in any of it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phantom Roxas Posted November 12, 2020 Report Share Posted November 12, 2020 1 hour ago, (GigaDrillBreaker) said: "we will accept the results of the election but only if they are legitimate, and said legitimacy is determined by us rather than the ever-piling mountain of evidence against us" What at this point would it take for you guys to say "we were wrong, biden won fair and square" I've found myself wondering what it would take for Winter and vla1ne to admit they were wrong far too often. vla1ne in particular takes evidence against his argument as if it were actually proof of his position. For the most part, when they're actually pressed on their argument, they typically resort to "We had to hear about Russia for four years, so this is fair game." They are not interested in proving the "truth" they believe this election has obscured. They just want to retaliate. 32 minutes ago, Ryusei the Morning Star said: You can very easily say it's gerrymandered. Also the GOP won the house "popular vote" so that argument wont stand either This is at least the second time you've brought this up. Who is even making that argument? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryusei the Morning Star Posted November 12, 2020 Author Report Share Posted November 12, 2020 27 minutes ago, Enguin said: debated adding text thought i'd leave the video speak for itself but given it's 7 minutes long and you've replied within 3 you've not watched it and don't intend to so i will explain anyway that's a vox tweet, this is a vox video, granted years apart but both regarding around the same timeframe, and the latter providing an example of election rigging that is demonstrably proven to have taken place and which would be a logical basis on which one could state that elections are rigged what you currently are advocating is a nationwide conspiracy to inflate a candidate's votes in key areas across the country to propel that candidate to victory, something that has not been proven whatsoever so, given these are 2 entirely different things, the fact they both technically fall under the broad topic of election rigging is coincidental, and this is now fanfiction it is possible that ronald klain's statement pertains to the former, and he still holds that view, on that specific thing under that broad heading, and he does not suggest that he believes in the unsubstantiated conspiracy type rigging you believe is at hand at all so there is no contradiction in any of it I've seen the tweet and watched the video as it If Klain wants to talk about gerrymandering, he's conveniently leaving out how a number of blue states pull the same clownery. Trump will get upperwards of 40% in the New England when this is all done and over. There are 0, ZERO republicans from that area IL takes great pride in gerrymandering. ETC You can call that rigged all you want, but there's certainly a both sides to it. This moral outrage after an election when your party has called every election where the opposition wins "illegitimate" is certainly something Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(GigaDrillBreaker) Posted November 12, 2020 Report Share Posted November 12, 2020 "x did wrong so why would I be any different" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryusei the Morning Star Posted November 12, 2020 Author Report Share Posted November 12, 2020 15 minutes ago, Phantom Roxas said: I've found myself wondering what it would take for Winter and vla1ne to admit they were wrong far too often. vla1ne in particular takes evidence against his argument as if it were actually proof of his position. For the most part, when they're actually pressed on their argument, they typically resort to "We had to hear about Russia for four years, so this is fair game." They are not interested in proving the "truth" they believe this election has obscured. They just want to retaliate. This is at least the second time you've brought this up. Who is even making that argument? A lot of the left says the non statewide elections are rigged cuz of mandering, but then have no problem with Mass being a 11-0 Democrat representation?  I'm angry about Russia for other reasons than you think or maybe what Vla1ne feels. There was a once in a life time chance to ditch NATO and Europe to move to a Pacific Theatre to combat the real enemy, China  But Biden and Obama sewed enough bullshit to kill those geopolitical plans. That being said, Trump absolutely was moronic to hire so many neo-cons and other trash whores. There's plenty of blame to go around there, but the loser is America  Am I salty that Trump is down by under 40K between GA, AZ, WI combined? Yeah. What to do Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryusei the Morning Star Posted November 12, 2020 Author Report Share Posted November 12, 2020 2 minutes ago, (GigaDrillBreaker) said: "x did wrong so why would I be any different" Unilateral disarment in politics when millions of lives are at stake is stupid. And you know it Giga Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phantom Roxas Posted November 12, 2020 Report Share Posted November 12, 2020 13 minutes ago, Ryusei the Morning Star said: Am I salty that Trump is down by under 40K between GA, AZ, WI combined? Yeah. What to do Accept that he lost and move on with your life? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryusei the Morning Star Posted November 12, 2020 Author Report Share Posted November 12, 2020 3 minutes ago, Phantom Roxas said: Accept that he lost and move on with your life? I will when the results are certified. Because at that point there's nothing I can do to change them. I'll lick my wounds, take solace in the fact that for the first time in my life, my seat flipped R, Inshallah, and that Biden will have an incumbered presidency I'll always have my doubts that he cheated. As do the vast majority of POTUS's 72 and counting million supporters. That's enough for me at this juncture if nothing else changes Guess, I'm part of the resistance now Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Enguin Enguin Enguin Enguin Posted November 12, 2020 Report Share Posted November 12, 2020 30 minutes ago, Ryusei the Morning Star said: I've seen the tweet and watched the video as it If Klain wants to talk about gerrymandering, he's conveniently leaving out how a number of blue states pull the same clownery. Trump will get upperwards of 40% in the New England when this is all done and over. There are 0, ZERO republicans from that area IL takes great pride in gerrymandering. ETC You can call that rigged all you want, but there's certainly a both sides to it. This moral outrage after an election when your party has called every election where the opposition wins "illegitimate" is certainly something he's not conveniently leaving out anything it's a 4 word tweet from 6 years ago that you brought up as if it was some kinda gotcha moment because of the site's rules i cannot use the word i would like to to describe the thought process you must have gone through to read my post and reply with this so i will just say it was silly Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryusei the Morning Star Posted November 12, 2020 Author Report Share Posted November 12, 2020 15 minutes ago, Enguin said: he's not conveniently leaving out anything it's a 4 word tweet from 6 years ago that you brought up as if it was some kinda gotcha moment because of the site's rules i cannot use the word i would like to to describe the thought process you must have gone through to read my post and reply with this so i will just say it was silly Unlike others, I can cope with mean words, go for it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Enguin Enguin Enguin Enguin Posted November 12, 2020 Report Share Posted November 12, 2020 you say that, quoting the post containing my statement "because of the site's rules" i am not sparing your feelings i am sparing myself the potential hassle of mod intervention though it looks like that isn't anywhere near as much a thing as the past, and we all know what i meant Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(GigaDrillBreaker) Posted November 12, 2020 Report Share Posted November 12, 2020 35 minutes ago, Ryusei the Morning Star said: I will when the results are certified. Because at that point there's nothing I can do to change them. ... Guess, I'm part of the resistance now Pick a lane, man Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Enguin Enguin Enguin Enguin Posted November 12, 2020 Report Share Posted November 12, 2020 also this is just you not responding to what has been said but weirdly poorly trying to assert your mental fortitude and vaguely shade that of non-specific others for no reason i realise now reading this back it's quite a trump move which is class Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryusei the Morning Star Posted November 12, 2020 Author Report Share Posted November 12, 2020 1 minute ago, (GigaDrillBreaker) said: Pick a lane, man My lane is very clear. There's enough shit that I can see off, and the margins are small enough. But at the same time I'm one dude, in one district, in one state, all of which came through for the President. So it's out of my control. I can hope others in the relevant areas will pick up the fight. Maybe they will, maybe they wont Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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